Respect

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  1. HamYai

    HamYai New Member

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    Prompted My Mad Rouge's "Sluts and WhoreS" thread.

    For those who watch mainstream porn, do you agree that whenever it's black guys and white girls, the girls are generally abused and called bitches/sluts/whores etc., but when it's white dudes with black girls, the scene is generally more loveable and respectfull?

    Agreed, it's not always the case and I'm sure some can provide links to the opposite conclusion but, in mainstream porn, I've noticed this.

    And the way black (and to a lesser degree white) guys treat Asian/Oriental girls borders on racial abuse at times.

    Are black guys generally abusive in the bedroom or is this just a stereotyping on the part of the film directors?

    Or are there no Sydney Poitiers left in the world?
     
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    If a white man was to call a black woman, ANY dergoatory name, porn or not porn, there would be such an outcry of discrimination. I believe that for any woman to be called those names, is a hateful and bad thing. If you want to fuck in a film, then by all means, fuck, but do not degrade your sexual partner.
     
  3. LACJohn

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    Stereotyping.

    And this thread is pretty stereotyped too.
     
  4. HamYai

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    Then why is it so commonplace with black guy on white or Asian girl, in mainstream porn?

    I'm just waiting for the first chick to sue the Producers of such a film based upon not the abuse, but the lack of earnings thereafter, due to her being belittled and made to feel worthless except as a cum-dump.
     
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    As in......

    Give us a recent example of a typical, similar, thread.
     
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    Probably because Asians don't generally riot at perceived slights.
     
  7. Principessa

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    This is an excerpt of an article written by a militant, black femininst about her dislike for Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. I am posting it because it accurately portrays the ways in which black women have been sexualized throughout history. Key points have been bolded by me.


    Sexual liberation has always meant something different for Black women. We were never allowed the sanctity of our own bodies. We were bought and sold, shackled and naked in the street for everyone's gaze and consumption. We were property for sex and labor. Middle class white women like Susie Bright have the privilege and option to play bad girl. Just being born Black and female in a white supremacist patriarchy brands you a bad girl. No props needed.:mad:


    There is a saying in Brazil and its meaning has been widely translated throughout the African Diaspora wherever white men exploited the bodies of Black women for pleasure and profit: "A white woman to marry, a mulatta to screw, and Black woman to work." Thus the idea of a liberating "sex work" has a precarious implication for Black women for whom the threat of rape was always a part of the job. Enslaved Black women were at the mercy of their masters and not much changed when Black women began to earn a wage. While working as cooks and nannies which continues to be the type of work most associated with Black females, they were often brutally raped by the fathers and sons of the families they worked for.


    The links between Black women and illicit sexuality began in the antebellum south. White men justified the sexual terror they inflicted on Black people by creating the image of the wanton Black whore who could not be raped or defiled because her sexuality was insatiable and impure by nature. We had no claim to womanhood, motherhood, or humanity. We are the original "dirty girls," the first sex radicals without the sanctuary of gender. We were used for our wombs and still worked like our men. There was no sanctuary to be found in the way our bodies were branded and exploited. They systematically raped Black women and branded us whores even as they'd lynch a Black man for even glancing in the direction of a white woman. In the image of the Black whore and Black rapist white men had found their authority to terrorize and punish others for the very acts only they committed.


    Like Flynt, these rapists and lynch mobs of angry white males blamed the people they oppressed for what they did to them. Black women were whores and Black men were sexual predators even though the raping of resources, lands, and people fell solely on one group: White Men. Black people were “asking for it” just as women are “asking for it.” Flynt enjoys expressing his hatred and rage at women by calling it "sex" just as the lynch mobs who terrorized Black communities called it "justice." Justice meant maintaining white power just as misogyny fuels the woman-hating spectacle of porn, defined as sex. White men directed their rage at enslaved and subjugated people even as those very people were left powerless to defend themselves without deadly consequences.


    Woman hating as rebellion against a feared feminist onslaught on male privilege is nothing new. White men like Flynt who blame women for all their problems and who punish them are cheered on and rewarded as heroes in a woman-hating culture. Leftist males who are threatened by feminism or female leadership within progressive movements can find reassurance in the rhetoric of libertarianism used to justify the inevitability of the sex industry and that a patriarchal order of things is left unchallenged somewhere.


    How dare a woman oppose a man's right to porn? Didn't we radical feminists get the memo that we are now in times when only feminists with “a sense of humor" get heard, white males are the new victims, and women choose to be objectified? It takes courage and clarity to relentlessly name and resist misogyny in spite of "The Times." We are expected to change our response to misogyny even as it reinvents itself with more clever and dangerous disguises. Patriarchy has become such an elusive neck to snap, such a seductive enemy that continuously tries to distort our interests until they become its own. Refusing and resisting pornography requires that women reject the new guises under which misogyny shields itself from criticism: free speech, libertarianism, the rights of angry white men, "female empowerment." In spite of the names we are called to berate us into fear and silence we still speak out and fight back. We are not the passive pleasing "girls" pornography wants us to be.
     
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    You forgot to mention the white girls.
     
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    I'd say similar but slightly more likely to...
     
  10. HamYai

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    That's about as much as i'm prepared to quote from your rant which is obviously, emphatically, undeniably race orientated. I'm guessing you're black.

    The question was basically "why is it OK for black guys to use and abuse and humiliate and degrade white and asian girls in mainstream porn?".

    Yet it's rarely reciprocated - so much so, it's almost a fetish to see a white guy abuse a black girl with his cock and never so for an asian. Or prove me wrong.

    Or shut up.

    An apology or at least an agreement that you were wrong would be nice.
     
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    You already answered the first question with your last.

    Now answer my last.

    PS. Sydney Poitier was/is a gent - that was my point, fool.

    PPS. People would take you far more seriously if you didn't insist on typing in a huge purple font.
     
  13. marleyisalegend

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    people would take YOU more seriously if your thread wasn't such an uninformed, biased one. you suggest black men are hungry sexual wolves, what about unwanted creampie videos where white guys con girls into sex without condoms insisting that they'll pull out before cumming, then PURPOSEFULLY cum inside the girls?? sounds pretty damn ravenous and vulgar to me. to help you out, i'll give you a few more thread ideas you can mull over in your head

    -why do so many black people commit crimes

    -how come black guys smoke crack

    -why do all rappers degrade women

    -how come most black women pop their necks and wave their fingers in your face

    -how come its mostly black people that have children out of wedlock

    black crime stereotype. check
    black drug-abuser stereotype. check.
    black music stereotype. check
    black women stereotype. check
    black family stereotype. check.

    any other stereotypes you want me to address?? here's a few more ideas for you

    -how comes all mexicans cut my grass
    -why do muslims always carry backpacks with bombs
    -how come people in the uk don't brush their teeth??
     
  14. marleyisalegend

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    is the irony of this thread hitting anyone?? an thread called respect disrespecting black people by generalizing them according to the worst examples of the race
     
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    I knew this would turn ugly.
     
  16. marleyisalegend

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    what gave it away?? the only thing STD could've done to be more offensive would be to call black people a bunch of knuckle-dragging, english-slaughtering, out-of-wedlock baby-producing, drug-selling, can't-read, no good porch monkeys
     
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    good point

    so std. what about those white guys in teh ass to mouth films. creampies. wat about white boy stop? and all that gag throat puke fucking vomiting shit?

    every man of every race has had a hand in it. not exclusively blacks. lets not forget, the black guys are usually the actor. the DIRECTOR, as in teh one controlling teh action, is usually a white guy. so maybe you should ask this about white producers, not black pornstars
     
  18. ManlyBanisters

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    He kinda did...

    See?

    I think the OP was a little roughly handled and maybe not fully thought out. I don't think its intention was nearly offensive as some people have found it. It's a shame people didn't stop and ask for clarification before going in to full out attack mode. Just as it is a shame that the OP has chosen to respond to the offense in a reactionary manner rather than restating in clearer terms his intent.
     
  19. marleyisalegend

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    how much clearly can you perpetuate a negative stereotype against black men?? intention becomes irrelevant when your entire idealism is based on misguided notions that single out a single race for poor behavior that EVERY race exhibits.
     
  20. ManlyBanisters

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    I understand some of his terminology and assumptions are emotive - but look through the OP again.

    Silly comment to end on, but harmless.

    I do disagree that white male porn actors don't get abusive with black actresses. I'm not going off searching for links, it is far too late here, but I have seen plenty of porn with white men fucking black women in a demeaning and abusive way.
     
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