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aquaman875: Since I am 5'7" and have small hands and feet, I love the reaction I get the first time a woman sees my penis. Its always a look of surprise and I love hearing the occasional "its bigger flaccid than my ex's erect" type comments.

However, I have become very tuned into noticing the point in the relationship where she seems only to be interested in sex and have learned to end it immediately. In my experience, if you let someone "use" you for awhile for sex, they think they're entitled to it and breaking it off becomes very difficult.
 
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meathose10: There's a fine line here in my case. I'm a show-off when it comes to my size , so basically I WANT to be used sexually because I'm so hung. All my long term sexual relationships started based on the impression my cock made .I love all the eye-popping and sharp intakes of breath when my partners see me get fully erect. If there's a connection beyond this initial "man with the big dick" phase then that's great and I do want something other than mere size consciousness to develop. Other than , not instead of. I basically can't get enough attention when it comes to the size of my equipment. I want awe with a capital A , lol... But I do remember one woman that fetishized it to a point where I felt I almost didn't exist. She liked for me to walk around the room in different clothes she'd bring that showed everything. Stretchy shit. She would masturbate staring at it as I paraded around . Wanted me to bounce the bulge her face. Sometimes she never even met my eye. It got tiresome after a while. Still , it was hot. Really fun at first.....
 
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danorogers: Et Tu Jolhnholmes,

I concur all the way ,,my g/f went out with me for 6-7 dates .concerts,whatever b4 she saw me . Like you I was clothed and havinf fun . I dont remember ever flaunting my size or bringing it up on a date .It doesn't matter to females it is the brain that is the largest sex-organ that ever was or is..
 
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Alligator_Jack: well, im only 3 inches or so soft, but get to 10 or 11 inches hard, so im lucky in that respect where i have a pretty big dick, and im so young, and its not falling out all over the place, i feel luckier being a grower and not a shower
 

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i dragged this out of the woodwork....to tell a story of my own....

Like DMW said about his bf, i have some guys who are interested in my penis because it was "what they were shopping for"...and that's great, but i had this "reverse" thing happen.

My exbf had a beautiful, hot dick, that he was very self conscious about because it wasn't as big as mine (he was 6 inches...and , it was attached to him, and i dug him).  No matter how much i was into it,he always compared...and wouldn't believe that I wasn't a size queen.  I used to laugh and say, "just because you are, don't make me one".  At the time it was a major problem.
my big dick was came between us...haaaa...so to speak!
 
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[quote author=meathose10 link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=15#21 date=12/15/02 at 12:55:54] I do remember one woman that fetishized it to a point where I felt I almost didn't exist. She liked for me to walk around the room in different clothes she'd bring that showed everything. Stretchy shit. She would masturbate staring at it as I paraded around . Wanted me to bounce the bulge her face. Sometimes she never even met my eye. It got tiresome after a while. Still , it was hot. Really fun at first.....[/quote]

LOL ! been there done that, I have had a few like that , wanted me to try on all these different clothes, they would even go out shopping and buy me clothes, I wasn't complaining hehe - free clothes
I never really thought it was a fetish type thing, the masturbating the bouncing the bulge, I never really thought it was so abnormal since it has happened a few times to me

but right a few - that's ALL they are after, they are the ones that I would stay with as long as it was fun for me but after that it was just time to go ...
ifI waited for them to go , I could still be with them now, they never got tired or that parading around lol
 
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H8Monga: [quote author=txqis link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=15#24 date=03/01/03 at 18:57:38]i dragged this out of the woodwork....to tell a story of my own....

Like DMW said about his bf, i have some guys who are interested in my penis because it was "what they were shopping for"...and that's great, but i had this "reverse" thing happen.

My exbf had a beautiful, hot dick, that he was very self conscious about because it wasn't as big as mine (he was 6 inches...and , it was attached to him, and i dug him).  No matter how much i was into it,he always compared...and wouldn't believe that I wasn't a size queen.  I used to laugh and say, "just because you are, don't make me one".  At the time it was a major problem.
my big dick was came between us...haaaa...so to speak![/quote]

I'm amazed txqis...
 
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Javierdude22: I was reading all these stories.....and i dunno....are gay people more shallow then straight?...or am i opening up something way old, or too direct?

Cause THIS exactly is what made me dislike the entire gay 'thing'....its all about physiques, dicks, looks (in that order :))...when i kinda accepted myself i started to visit a bar or too (gay i mean)...it disillusioned me like hell, cause it was all about having sex for one night....

And especially if youre goodlooking....or for some not even so but just having a big dick, will get people to propose the fuckin craziest stuff to you...which kinda brought me back to the fase where accepting myself became more difficult i guess, although i know it shouldnt be like that.

Is that a viable question? Are gay people on average ( i mean percentage of all) more shallow like that, then straight people?...again...on average i mean. cause i think they are

I guess that was my input :)...thanx, laterz!

Javier
 

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[quote author=Javierdude22 link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=24#27 date=04/10/03 at 12:52:41]....are gay people more shallow then straight?...
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There is indeed a stereotype of the shallow gay man. And, unfortunately, there are people who conform to the stereotype, but there are others, too, who are troubled by the stereotype. Hence, I have a number of friends who say "I am homosexual, not gay" or "I'm just over the gay thing."
 

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[quote author=Javierdude22 link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=24#27 date=04/10/03 at 12:52:41]
Are gay people on average ( i mean percentage of all) more shallow like that, then straight people?[/quote]

I don't think so. Some peope are more shallow than other people ... period. There are some callously shallow heterosexuals as well. Not calling any names, but you can pick up on that here at LPSG. Not the majority, by any means, but you hear some very shallow comments from gay and straight dudes here. Take into consideration that you were talking about the bar scene. Clubbing is often centered around cruising on a purely superficial level in gay and straight society. More people go to bars to get laid than to start a serious relationship. Physical attractiveness is a large part of that. Sad to say, so is being hung. And it is not a gay thing ... it's a human thing. Physical attraction is most often what draws two people together in the first place.
Please allow me to clear up something about my boyfriend. Dirk is not a size queen. I mentioned the fact that he bottomed for some guys with big cocks. I did not mean to imply that he seeks out partners based on their schlong size. He has had many similar liaisons with more modestly endowed partners. Dirk and I are bot hung, but it is not the basis of our relationship. Penis size and compatability are not the same thing. Dirk and I share each other's lives. That's not shallowness.
 
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Javierdude22: Hm...maybe...im not sure though.

Guess it was just my personal experiences.
 
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chi8wannabe: I agree absolutely with DMW. Yes, there are shallow people in the world, and they aren't all in gay bars. But there also a lot of genuine people out there, and a lot of them are in gay bars, too. But their initial attraction is probably going to be the physical aspect, because at that point that's all they know. If someone is attracted to you because of your physical attributes, go with it; you might actually find that there is more to them. My bf and I met cruising. That was almost 36 years ago, and we have been together ever since. That's because we got beyond the physical and discovered that there was something inside that mattered, too.
 
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trent: i know my girlfriend, well ex, loves me. but i also think she just want me dick sometime. like sometime i go over to her house and right when i get done pleasing her she say somethin like "you should probably go now" so i feel used sometimes.
 
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Tender: hmm sounds like she would be best as an EX that was an EX. why do you still see her if she treats you like such?

to the topic...
i guess big is in the eye of the beholder... much like beauty perhaps...?
i think my SB is big just fine...
and cute to boot....
just wish we got along better... :(

Tender
 
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belcurv:
author=DeeBlackthorne link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=0#12 date=10/10/02 at 06:47:16]they reminded me of those stereotypical gay size queens who purse their lips and talk about the X, Y, and Z they want to do / could do with my penis.  Upon further reflection, it's that attitude as opposed to the mere "notice" of size... from someone who I didn't know at all and had only met a few moments ago.

Agh, you take all the fun out of the fantasy. Look, those of us who occasionally respond by saying that your size sets off a chemical or psychological reaction in us and maybe even tell you what we would love to do with you are often just letting you know that we buy the mythology of size (that it's such an "absolute" and irresistable form of sexual power, e.g.), or being honest when others would be thinking the same thing but not telling you. I couldn't imagine doing that in person, but in cyberspace I've done it a few times and usually the hung recipient loved it, kept writing back for more and wanting to meet me. (Maybe I did it more romantically than the usual "size queen." And if you ever use a label like that on me to my face, btw, I'll be inclined to retaliate. Stereotyping is EXACTLY what you are TOTALLY guilty of, and it is an UGLY and dirty thing to do.)

When I've done it, I've done it with the intention of giving the man a thrill, paying him the ultimate compliment, as a way to start up communication with the hopes that he will enjoy knowing the effect he's had on me as much as I've enjoyed having had the effect. I want to say, in a way, "Do you REALIZE how powerful your body is?" The most beautiful thing about a penis that is over that threshold and into the "super" category, is that it is possible to GIVE pleasure with it without any effort. To those of us who do not possess that instant power, it is a tremendous gift to behold and contemplate.

There are other reasons, many of them. I could write a book!

As an artist I am VERY visual and the visual stimulation of my imagination from a big beautiful cock can be overwhelming. It seems risky to me to share with him the effect it has on me, but those few times I've done it I did it hoping he would not ASSUME, as you seem to, that guys like me do it all the time. I hoped he would see it as something totally rare, that he would appreciate the risk I was taking and know somehow that, wow, I must find him REALLY beautiful to do so. In fact, quite often I've found myself overcompensating, say when I see a well endowed (btw BIG isn't all it takes...there are big UGLY cocks...) man I would love to express my attraction to, in the locker room or whatever, I sometimes almost wince or turn away even when he seems interested, because I am TOO attracted.

You ruin it for those of us who would mean it in a nice way by lumping everyone who ever expresses their admiration for your physique into the "size queen" type. And by doing so, you miss the chance of striking up erotic friendships/relationships with exactly those of us who would be most able to offer you a level of giving that the person who doesn't especially appreciate your physical traits cannot. I for one do not think of penis size as MERELY a physical trait, I see it as something that makes a person special. Like a counterpart to my own artistic talents. People "oooh" and "aahhh" me when they view my work, they treat me like a genius, etc., etc... I LOVE the idea that another man might have the ability to have that effect for another reason, and be totally unartistic but appreciate me like I appreciate him, for something we were both given as a "gift", not something we earned.

It is so damned PHONY to pretend that physical traits aren't a basis, or even often THE basis, for initial attraction. If someone has for whatever reason a particular attraction to penis size, for you to automatically assume that will be the only thing they will want, even if it happens to be the FIRST thing that gets them to notice you, is despicable. Women overwhelmingly and readily say they want TALL men. Does that mean tall men should react like you? Why is there something "dirty" or shallow in liking your cock.

You guys who are big enough for it to be immediately and universally impressive want all the bennies without the downside. I know now that I was ridiculous when I used to worry about not being big enough (because the only other cock I had seen was my best friend, who had over 10 inches by age 15). But to the normal, average guy the idea of being wanted JUST for your cock is so hot I'm amazed you aren't sensitive to that reality. So when he compliments you by expressing it directly before he knows you as a "whole person", I applaude him for his honesty.

My first well endowed lover was someone I met in the locker room, had NO idea he was big, thought in fact he looked rather small. But he was so nice, cute, sweet, likable... When we got together I couldn't believe that was the same cock I had seen him toweling off in the showers. I wanted to tell him how much I loved his size, what a nice surprise it had been, but never could bring myself to because I was SO WORRIED that he would feel like you do, or that he would even think it was "shallow" that I noticed. It would be healthier and more honest if you just allowed for admiration and that it turns people on.

OR... let's explode the myth and start up a campaign to dispute the desirability of extra size altogether. Talk up how it hurts, makes you sore, you can't do everything with it, how frustrating it is not to be able to deepthroat or kills your throat if you do, etc, etc, how you feel inferior and have to worry about whether your smaller size can please (and hold onto) your bf, how the novelty wears out after a short time, how you especially have to worry that someone hung is so sought after they eventually will give in to temptation and are much more likely to bring home a disease, how awful it is to be hung because you are always lonely and horny and can NEVER get a date, etc...

...and then let's make sure we have an army of well hung men to go out and fulfill their duty to have sex with as many people as possible, as many times as possible, in order to remove that "lottery effect" that is caused by the fact that there are so few chances to experience being with someone big statistically, which inflates the illusion of desirability to the many who would not prefer larger size if they only had the opportunity to experience it. (I'm bi, and the fact that I had terrific sex with a woman who had very large breasts when I was 21, I'm sure, is what relieved me of that curiosity about what it would be like, and allowed me to be totally happy with my petite wife, who is a 34-C.)

To assume that someone who appreciates and is turned on by your size without knowing you is always going to be shallow and evil and written off sounds so much like the traditional Doris Day Movie female role. ::) ("Pillow Talk" was just on AMC last night. If you haven't seen it, you should.) That role is all about the fakeness of women who pretend to want to be loved for their mind but really want the "bad boy" at heart. If there is an analogy there, maybe you're so bugged by this idea because in fact down deep it's exactly what you would love to admit is the hottest reality (or fantasy). It's the stuff of every Harlequin romance. As I recall, Dee, you were in vehement denial about any degree of bisexuality a couple of years ago. Could it be that thou dost protest too much?
 

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Man, totally missed this topic... good development in it, by the way.

I suppose I have a difficult time seeing the fantasy the same way you do. The size queens I've encountered were size queens precisely because they had a disembodied attachment, intringue, etc., with my goods. Especially in that situation with the hairdresser, it made a terrible first impression upon me because, the way I see it... ummm, hello, nobody attached to the bulge. I'm being totally honest when I say I felt like a piece of meat, and knowing that I have self-esteem rooted elsewhere, having so much attention drawn to my goods made me feel really uncomfortable.

Thankfully, I'm pretty comfortable with my goods and in the right context, I don't mind those remarks at all. If you recall, I've jacked with guys a few times, and it's a bit of a turn-on to get a "Damn!" reaction, you know? I would never dispute that. At the same time, there's a threshold for that level of appreciation. For these isolated jack off incidents, it never gets to that point. Let's say I eventually made a jack-off buddy; that's cool. No big deal. So we jack a few times, and over time, I'm slowly realizing that the only thing that keeps the friendship together is that interest in my cock. I've lost the buddy in my jack-off buddy -- not cool anymore, especially if we got on rather well before drawing the dick into it.

Even if physicalities are what made the initial attraction work, over time, I would hope that other features would come into play. Unless we both fully agreed from the start that the physical and the physical alone would make the relationship work, (and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't wished for that sometimes), if you only care about my body, naturally I'm going to worry if that's all you care about. And if you do, well, that doesn't work for me.

Something else to consider: I don't mind chatting about LPSG-related stuff and dick sizes and jacking all that online either. Heh, couldn't be a member of this group if I were so uncomfortable. But I think I'm not the only one would agree that if some complete stranger IMs you to start up a dick chat, you swap sizes, but the conversation doesn't even show signs of moving past that... conversation was a bit of a waste, eh? For every IM buddy that I've got on my list that's pretty cool about talking dick, I'm more than confident we can discuss other things and those conversations would be just as enjoyable.

In my experience, fully acknowledging how limited it is, I can't recall getting too excited or enthused by people who are solely locked into my goods. I like getting that attention sometimes and I'm really comfortable with it; at the same time, my comfort's built on my terms. On this board, I've also participated in several threads on sexuality, only to find that even in a few short months, I've done a lot of personal growth. A buddy who knew about me in undergraduate school jokingly asked, "So, what's the ratio now, Dee?" And I told him that I'm more interested in women -- at the same time, it doesn't really change or make me hate how I've interacted with men before...

I've had my fun.
 

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in my situation i am unable to hide my manly assets - a bulge is always visible through my pants. this has been a source of attention, both wanted and unwanted.

i am glad that i possess this asset and will always use it to my advantage.
 
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belcurv: [quote author=DeeBlackthorne link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=20#35 date=12/25/03 at 20:16:21]The size queens I've encountered were size queens precisely because they had a disembodied attachment, intringue, etc., with my goods.  ...

Let's say I eventually made a jack-off buddy; that's cool.  No big deal.  So we jack a few times, and over time, I'm slowly realizing that the only thing that keeps the friendship together is that interest in my cock.  I've lost the buddy in my jack-off buddy -- not cool anymore, especially if we got on rather well before drawing the dick into it.
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1. You don't KNOW that the "size queens" have a disembodied infatuation with your "goods." My guess is that they are rather detached from your "goods" or they wouldn't be able to talk about them so brazenly. Those of us who REALLY are amazed, impressed, infatuated, etc. are more likely to be dumbstruck, in awe, unable to maintain our cool. Those guys in between, who could take your goods or leave them, will be the most well equipped to deal with expressing appreciation in a balanced way. But you never know. A partner who says exactly what you want to hear may be the most shallow size queen of all... and wants your goods so much that he simply tells you what you want to hear/shows you what you want to see/behaves for you how you want him to, etc. He keeps his cool because he knows that is how he "gets" the goods.

2. How do you KNOW the jack off buddy is only interested in your cock? I'll bet that is YOUR perception, and that you are feeding your own kind of paranoia about this. You probably help create that situation, too, by always (fearfully) looking for it.

You remind me of the kind of women I turned tail and RAN from when I got involved with them (in our early 20s/late teens) and found out that they always had to have something to worry about obsessively, always had to create some imaginary problem that wasn't really there. (Eventually creating the problem or its equivalent!)
 

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[quote author=belcurv link=board=sex;num=1034089618;start=20#37 date=12/28/03 at 19:25:18]A partner who says exactly what you want to hear may be the most shallow size queen of all... and wants your goods so much that he simply tells you what you want to hear/shows you what you want to see/behaves for you how you want him to, etc. He keeps his cool because he knows that is how he "gets" the goods.[/quote]

Whoa... somebody's taking this size queen thing a little personal, eh? I can't help but wonder why you're being so vehement, or why you're targeting my responses in particular, but hey... I'll play along.

I'll answer the above remark in this way. I'm a pretty good judge of character, and if I feel like there's some kinda MO (modus operandi) going on that I don't want to be a part of, I'm putting on my brakes here. On a more preliminary level, I'm definitely not interested in placaters -- people who respond to what I say or do deliberately to everything I do in order to get a positive reaction. I can only imagine how pitiful it would be if I were to get involved with someone who tries their hardest to say or do exactly what I want. The relationship would get boring pretty quickly; not to mention I couldn't help but wonder what was going on in their own lives to merit this response.

But you're right. I don't know what someone else is thinking or calculating most of the time. I'm not in their heads, so I can't be privy to their thinking processes. I can only go by what they demonstrate to me through their behavior and actions, right?

Right.

How do you KNOW the jack off buddy is only interested in your cock? I'll bet that is YOUR perception, and that you are feeding your own kind of paranoia about this...

Hmmm, let me give you two brief scenarios and maybe you'll see what I'm getting at.

If a buddy calls me up because he's horny and he wants to spooge off together, if I'm horned up too, I don't see why not. We'll get together, pop in a porn... you can do the math from there...

But here's where the "buddy" element comes in. This "buddy" of mine, for whatever reasons, will probably want to get together for activities beyond jerking. That said, my buddy might call me up to play a game of pool with him, grab some drinks at the local bar, even run errands with him. We'll talk, hang out. We'll probably talk about deep stuff, too -- you know, the kind of stuff that friends share.

On the other hand, if nine out of ten calls are invitations to go shoot a load... well... you get it, don't you?

Of course I'm not going to sit down and calculate every single conversation or start making tick marks [jack off call vs. hang out call], but even the most socially inept person could start seeing a trend after a while.

Even on a less interpersonal level, if I'm on the internet chatting, and the user I'm chatting with can hardly make it past dick size in a conversation, it's a good indication that... well... "size queen." Is this making sense? The point is, you can tell where a conversation is or is not headed most of the time. Even if I try to bring up other topics, if it's always tied back to a sexual reference or a dick comment... can't you see how that could grate someone's nerves after a while?

You probably help create that situation, too, by always (fearfully) looking for it.

Why would I have to be so neurotic about this topic if it weren't such an obvious development in most cases, hmmm?

True, most people you encounter -- live or not -- aren't clearly marked "size queen" or "not a size queen." You don't really know these things until you start talking, interacting, etc. And you're right about one thing: I can't know what everyone else is doing or thinking all the time, so I can't really claim this omniscience-detection about size queens. I can only go by what I see, and if most of the signs are pointing toward a sole intrigue in my unit... I'm out of there. Plain and simple. I think you assume that I'm looking down on someone who has that level of interest in the men they encounter; you think I'm slamming a size queen. Quite honestly, I could give a damn less if you're interested in the inches or the intellect. That's your prerogative. At the same time, I reserve the right to give attention to people who aren't approaching me that way.

Of course, if you even bothered to read the first post, you would have known how uncomfortable I felt when that hairdresser approached me for the first time. I was speechless, and for me, that says something if you can make me speechless or embarrassed.

You say that I "take the fun out of the fantasy." That's funny. I like the attention... sometimes. I just think there's a time and a place for it, and if I'm in a mod to appreciate it... hell, it's all good! But something tells me that, hmmm, perhaps because I'm not in a mood to appreciate the kind of attention you'd want to give a well hung guy whenever the mood strikes you to do so, that somehow I'm wrong for not wanting to play along. That's rather selfish, don't you think? There's nothing wrong with getting or appreciating positive attention for the goods; I think a hung guy has to accept that somewhere along the line. Of course, that same guy has the wrong to control/dictate when he feels ready to accept that appreciation, and when that appreciation crosses the border into annoyance.

Time and a place for it... done.

You say that I'm perpetuating a problem or that I'm looking for it...

Well, I could call you incredibly shortsighted and critical for making an assumption. All I said was that, sometimes, the attention isn't welcome, and when it reaches a certain extent, sometimes you can't help but wonder if someone's solely hounding you for your size. Perceptions would merit that. But I would be obsessive if I heard any combination of the words "nine," "inch," "dick," and any sexual term and freaked out on contact. No, genius; that's not how I act.

I think you're being particularly touchy on a subject you obviously have a lot of passion about, but you're letting that... enthusiasm... lead you to some bad assumptions. Take a minute to question them or to put yourself in the other person's shoes, and maybe you'll feel differently.
 
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cassahnovah: I've found that the way to really hook a woman isn't through sex or penis size, but acting in a manner she finds very attractive. That is with confidence, humor, dominance, intellect, thoughtfullness, etc... I've never met a woman who completely obsessed over someone because of the size their dick. Emotional attachment is far stronger than sexual attachment in my opinion. Being good in the sack helps a LOT and a big dick may be good an asset at picking up women, but I think having a personality thats attractive to women works wonders.

But back to the question. I don't sleep around too much and I'd been with most of the women I slept with for some time before we had sex. So it was a huge and very pleasant surprise to them when it finally happened. They wanted me really bad in the first place, and that just pushed them over the edge :)