Responsibilities of Black Entertainers/Athletes Fighting Racism

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We need ADD nothing. The s***** you say pretty much speaks for itself.

Though we po' black folk sho is beholdin' to ya, for so GRACIOUSLY pointing out the error of our ways.

What a buffoon you are.

Way to rock that race card though. Get that sambo shit outta here. Treat YOURSELF with more respect than the nonsense you're spewing.
 

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This thread will serve as a permanent hate based bulletin board of 'misbehavin black folks' by the junior Grand Wizards of LPSG that artfully run beneath the radar of the moderators while making sure they stay on the radar with their carefully coded hate speech. They live in a hermetically-sealed bubble of hate and intolerance, immune from facts, history, and education.

Note: moderators, if you had a shred a fortitude, this would be a permanent ban. What a fucking joke.
 

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This thread will serve as a permanent hate based bulletin board of 'misbehavin black folks' by the junior Grand Wizards of LPSG that artfully run beneath the radar of the moderators while making sure they stay on the radar with their carefully coded hate speech. They live in a hermetically-sealed bubble of hate and intolerance, immune from facts, history, and education.
Sargon, that isn't fair; they've gone a whole five hours without posting a "blacks behaving badly" video.
 

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Sargon, that isn't fair; they've gone a whole five hours without posting a "blacks behaving badly" video.

Such a pity that nobody is going to call out such despicable words.

Thanks for confirming all negative beliefs about yourself, Fuzz!
 

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Thought this has been well covered. This was started following the Michael Brown shooting. This is about the challenges faced in, and by, the black community, and how some might be addressed.

A laudable aim, though it's interesting you focus solely on the challenges blacks bring upon themselves.

Go ahead and start a new thread if you like. Your prerogative.

Thanks. Since I'm not the one who criticized black athletes and entertainers, I feel no need to do the same for whites.
 

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What a buffoon you are.

Way to rock that race card though. Get that sambo shit outta here. Treat YOURSELF with more respect than the nonsense you're spewing.

For one, I don't appreciate being called names by the likes of you, especially considering you have the audacity to call for someone else's ban in the very next thread.

As far "rocking that race card", you perhaps refer to the way YOU rocked it in that ridiculous analysis you made about Jon Stewart's saying that people of color suffer race based indignities on a regular basis.

How's that for spewing nonsense?

(Also, probably explains why people who once defended you don't even recognize your posts anymore.)
 

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For one, I don't appreciate being called names by the likes of you, especially considering you have the audacity to call for someone else's ban in the very next thread.

As far "rocking that race card", you perhaps refer to the way YOU rocked it in that ridiculous analysis you made about Jon Stewart's saying that people of color suffer race based indignities on a regular basis.

How's that for spewing nonsense?

(Also, probably explains why people who once defended you don't even recognize your posts anymore.)

That garbage Sambo act deserved worse than that. Nobody is insinuating that shit, aside from the folks who have gotten banned. Buffoonery is a fair assessment.

I used his own words. If you think I represented it inaccurately, feel free to show me how.

Considering those who once defended me would be Storm, I'm not exactly up at night worrying about it. He's proven himself to be a hateful coward blinded by ideology and hatred for those who oppose it. Not the kind of individual whose support I seek.

If you think my calling out your Sambo BS monologue is similar to Sargon calling those with whom he disagrees a bunch of Grand Wizards in training, you are doing nothing except proving my name calling to be a staggeringly astute analysis.

If you don't want to be called a buffoon, don't act like one. In order for your comparison to hold true, I MUST be acting like a "junior Grand Wizard." I take great comfort knowing that, while we vehemently disagree, and while I just (accurately) referred to you as a numbskull, even you do not believe that.
 

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A laudable aim, though it's interesting you focus solely on the challenges blacks bring upon themselves.



Thanks. Since I'm not the one who criticized black athletes and entertainers, I feel no need to do the same for whites.

I've posted that the police need to develop programs to better interact with and relate to the communities they serve. I've also highlighted positive role models, both athletes and celebrities, politicians, and entrepreneurs who have started amazing programs to help their own communities. This thread was asking whether those most visible have a responsibility to do more, or are they actually doing a dis-service to their communities through their bad behavior.

But the point of the discussion has been lost in the sensitivity of the topic.
 

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That garbage Sambo act deserved worse than that. Nobody is insinuating that shit, aside from the folks who have gotten banned. Buffoonery is a fair assessment.

I used his own words. If you think I represented it inaccurately, feel free to show me how.

Considering those who once defended me would be Storm, I'm not exactly up at night worrying about it. He's proven himself to be a hateful coward blinded by ideology and hatred for those who oppose it. Not the kind of individual whose support I seek.

If you think my calling out your Sambo BS monologue is similar to Sargon calling those with whom he disagrees a bunch of Grand Wizards in training, you are doing nothing except proving my name calling to be a staggeringly astute analysis.

If you don't want to be called a buffoon, don't act like one. In order for your comparison to hold true, I MUST be acting like a "junior Grand Wizard." I take great comfort knowing that, while we vehemently disagree, and while I just (accurately) referred to you as a numbskull, even you do not believe that.

More name calling. Not that you'd have room to talk.
 

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"Equally"? Then why start a thread exclusively challenging the misbehavior of *black* athletes?

Because they are a "problem" worthy of a thread.
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Why start the thread? Because it allows some to shift the focus from the police killing of an unarmed Michael Brown, and that of Kajieme Powell (the video evidence of which was even questioned by some) by placing the ONUS of blame squarely upon the shoulders of black people, via bogus rationales and references to “race cards”, by shifting focus to black on black crime, or by placing blame upon black athletes and celebrities who are (allegedly) shirking their duties and providing poor examples for the community.

On the latter, sources abound on the internet relating to sports figures and celebrities, national and international, who’ve run afoul of the law. But seems some people only know about the BLACK ones. Not too coincidentally, the SAME sorts who ASSUME 97% of black people vote solely on the basis of the candidate’s race, the same sorts who, when asked about their work with minorities in N.Y., and specifically how those minorities feel about that city’s stop and frisk laws, ignore the question by responding that they should “cooperate more”. The same sorts who, in response to concerns about Michael Brown’s shooting feel compelled (by their own admission) to raise questions about the “responsibilities of BLACK entertainers” to the exclusion of all else... out of genuine concern they say.

I think if anyone seeks any indication of their genuine concern, they only need look at how close to the top of the board threads like THIS are, in comparison to those even REMOTELY concerning either Brown’s killing OR Powell’s.

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Perhaps what another here once referred to as “ignorance (deliberate or otherwise)”.

A laudable aim, though it's interesting you focus solely on the challenges blacks bring upon themselves.

Thanks. Since I'm not the one who criticized black athletes and entertainers, I feel no need to do the same for whites.

Don’t you get it, Klingsor? That’s the cause of all our woes. We should “cooperate more”.
 
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Assuming this rant is possibly directed at me, why don't you address me as such, and specifically highlight one or two points at a time rather than lumping several of your hot button items into a stream of several paragraphs (a recent post of yours went on for 15 paragraphs), and then whine and complain when your points aren't answered.

Now, if you are really interested in my thoughts, ask away.
 

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Too bad my "rant" doesn't meet with your editorial approval. Nor was I aware of your paragraph limitation.

As for your "thoughts", I would say you've made them quite apparent, thank you.
 

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More name calling. Not that you'd have room to talk.

Ha! If you have a different name for lobbing unfounded accusations, and then refusing to back them up, I'd love to hear it.

Thank you for trashing that sorry "they're all racists and naturally must think I'm a bumbling stereotype so I'll play that angle" BS though.
 

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Too bad my "rant" doesn't meet with your editorial approval. Nor was I aware of your paragraph limitation.

As for your "thoughts", I would say you've made them quite apparent, thank you.

So much buffoonery here. BC, if you don't want insulting words attributed to your posts/character, stop making it soooooooooo easy.
 

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Could be, if they are not using their celebrity status to uplift and help their community in a positive way by dispelling myths and misperceptions, or if instead their behavior (music) actually contributes to it.

Ok, please correct me if i'm misunderstanding your statement here:

You are using an isolated incident and piggy backing it onto an unrelated incident to justify labeling an entire culture? You are also wanting celebrities to be the representation of an entire community?

You've yet to mention the several celebrities of color who are not engaged in any of these types of behavior; but then again how could you when their endeavors go un publicized and scrutinized by the media...so I guess I can only fault you for half heartedly posting this topic in the manner that you did?

If you are going to expect all black celebrities to be perfect role models then you should also expect the same of all non-black celebrities. Do you also question the music of some white musicians who talk about killing and suicide and if their music is partly the reason why events such as Sandy Hook and Columbine exist. Maybe partially responsible for the advent of "affluenza" to cover up for underage drinking then driving under that influence and killing people.

In fact, how about we ask a few of the site members who live in other countries; are Americans judged solely on the actions of our celebrities who display bad behavior as a whole while completely disregarding the majority of role models that exist in our country?
 

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Ok, please correct me if i'm misunderstanding your statement here:

You are using an isolated incident and piggy backing it onto an unrelated incident to justify labeling an entire culture? You are also wanting celebrities to be the representation of an entire community?

You've yet to mention the several celebrities of color who are not engaged in any of these types of behavior; but then again how could you when their endeavors go un publicized and scrutinized by the media...so I guess I can only fault you for half heartedly posting this topic in the manner that you did?

If you are going to expect all black celebrities to be perfect role models then you should also expect the same of all non-black celebrities. Do you also question the music of some white musicians who talk about killing and suicide and if their music is partly the reason why events such as Sandy Hook and Columbine exist. Maybe partially responsible for the advent of "affluenza" to cover up for underage drinking then driving under that influence and killing people.

In fact, how about we ask a few of the site members who live in other countries; are Americans judged solely on the actions of our celebrities who display bad behavior as a whole while completely disregarding the majority of role models that exist in our country?

You are misunderstanding. Read through the posts on this thread for your answers. You should do your homework before jumping in here.

And start whatever thread you want.
 

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Too bad my "rant" doesn't meet with your editorial approval. Nor was I aware of your paragraph limitation.

As for your "thoughts", I would say you've made them quite apparent, thank you.

Good. So without any further noise and distractions, back to the thread . . . .
 

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You are misunderstanding. Read through the posts on this thread for your answers. You should do your homework before jumping in here.

And start whatever thread you want.

I've read through this entire thread; paying attention to your posts (since you are the OP) trying to gain an understanding of the angle that you're trying to take here and that is all I can come up with. I tried to rationalize it but you keep falling back to what is my perception of it. So I am asking you to clarify what exactly do you mean and you deflect the question rather than to answer or restate what you've said. I mentioned nothing about starting a thread and i'm sorry you took your own view as to what I wrote. However; the examples i've given are exactly what you have done with your posting, which at this point seems to me that you are attempting to generalize an entire culture by those with the celebrity platform and using poor examples of such.

Now, if you had done your homework before hand your thread may have went something like (Do those with celebrity status not realize that they do serve as some form of role model? With the meaning that, they have the platform to do better but choose not to like several others who use their platform for the betterment of society as a whole.)

So I restate my very first question "Correct me if i'm wrong" to "Please help me to understand the angle at which you mean by the posting of this thread?"; please and thank you. :smile: