Responsibilities of Black Entertainers/Athletes Fighting Racism

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Why start the thread? Because it allows some to shift the focus from the police killing of an unarmed Michael Brown, and that of Kajieme Powell (the video evidence of which was even questioned by some) by placing the ONUS of blame squarely upon the shoulders of black people, via bogus rationales and references to “race cards”, by shifting focus to black on black crime, or by placing blame upon black athletes and celebrities who are (allegedly) shirking their duties and providing poor examples for the community.

Are you telling Fuzzy that there's something suspicious about making post after post about how much trouble black people get into, all without any explanation?
 

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Are you telling Fuzzy that there's something suspicious about making post after post about how much trouble black people get into, all without any explanation?

Ya know. That description of events sounds strangely close to another description i've read on this site. Now what was it. Hmm. It started with an R and ended in baiter but i can't put my finger on it. Guess i'll have to remember what a baiter of race is another day.
 

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Ya know. That description of events sounds strangely close to another description i've read on this site. Now what was it. Hmm. It started with an R and ended in baiter but i can't put my finger on it. Guess i'll have to remember what a baiter of race is another day.

Dood, if you're gonna play the clueless angle, maintain it through the entire post.
 

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Dood, if you're gonna play the clueless angle, maintain it through the entire post.

Ok how about this then. Jjz1109, others and you fit the very definition of a race baiter. There that better?

Edit: You know what. That isn't right. You are race baiters.
 

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Ok how about this then. Jjz1109, others and you fit the very definition of a race baiter. There that better?

Edit: You know what. That isn't right. You are race baiters.

My stance here has been from the jump that athletes/entertainers/etc should not naturally be considered role models. Race baiting how?

Provide some examples, please. Let's see if you have the balls for it :rolleyes:
 

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Look at your sig for instance. Look at the terms you've used when talking about race. Look at the subject matter you choose to talk about. The way you use terms to defend your stance. You proudly display all of these things at any given time. If it were for enjoyment then that'd be a different thing altogether. It is not. Even the names you call people are meant to create an emotional reaction from black people specifically.

aka you've been trolling black people since you signed up.
 

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Look at your sig for instance. Look at the terms you've used when talking about race. Look at the subject matter you choose to talk about. The way you use terms to defend your stance. You proudly display all of these things at any given time. If it were for enjoyment then that'd be a different thing altogether. It is not. Even the names you call people are meant to create an emotional reaction from black people specifically.

aka you've been trolling black people since you signed up.

Wait, WHAT?!?!?!

Because I quote a person I like, who is not of my race, I'm a race baiter??? If I did the same for Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, etc, would I similarly be baiting race?

You are going to have to provide examples, because you're spitting nothing but garbage right now (would love to know how this is racially coded :rolleyes:)

What terms am I using?

What specific names do I use to call people that SPECIFICALLY focus on blacks? I treat folks with whom I disagree here exactly the same, and I'd pay (I will literally transfer money to you if you can do so) to see you dredge up examples of me treating blacks differently than I do whites. Surely you cannot believe my calling (continually) Storm a coward or BC a buffoon to be racial? Go back and see how I conversed with AtomicMouse specifically...but he's gay, so THAT must have been an example of my homophobia :rolleyes:

As of right now, you've proven yourself to be jackass. Either provide examples that remotely solidify your assertions or kick rocks (more racial coding?).

Note: While I wouldn't say it's trolling, I absolutely have been arguing with LIBERALS (whites fit that bill too, last time I checked) since I signed up here.
 

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Wait, WHAT?!?!?!

Because I quote a person I like, who is not of my race, I'm a race baiter??? If I did the same for Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, etc, would I similarly be baiting race?

You are going to have to provide examples, because you're spitting nothing but garbage right now (would love to know how this is racially coded :rolleyes:)

What terms am I using?

What specific names do I use to call people that SPECIFICALLY focus on blacks? I treat folks with whom I disagree here exactly the same, and I'd pay (I will literally transfer money to you if you can do so) to see you dredge up examples of me treating blacks differently than I do whites. Surely you cannot believe my calling (continually) Storm a coward or BC a buffoon to be racial? Go back and see how I conversed with AtomicMouse specifically...but he's gay, so THAT must have been an example of my homophobia :rolleyes:

As of right now, you've proven yourself to be jackass. Either provide examples that remotely solidify your assertions or kick rocks (more racial coding?).

Note: While I wouldn't say it's trolling, I absolutely have been arguing with LIBERALS (whites fit that bill too, last time I checked) since I signed up here.

(Sigh) Give me a sec.
 

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So much buffoonery here. BC, if you don't want insulting words attributed to your posts/character, stop making it soooooooooo easy.

That garbage Sambo act deserved worse than that. Nobody is insinuating that shit, aside from the folks who have gotten banned. Buffoonery is a fair assessment.

Get that sambo shit outta here. Treat YOURSELF with more respect than the nonsense you're spewing.

Yup, racially charged words used with the intent to incite an emotional reaction. It's funny too cause they were all in the same thread. Not only that but this below was especially hilarious.

So much buffoonery here. BC, if you don't want insulting words attributed to your posts/character, stop making it soooooooooo easy.

So umm yeah. Stop making the race baiter claims so easy to make. (shrugs)
 

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So much buffoonery here. BC, if you don't want insulting words attributed to your posts/character, stop making it soooooooooo easy.

That garbage Sambo act deserved worse than that. Nobody is insinuating that shit, aside from the folks who have gotten banned. Buffoonery is a fair assessment.

Get that sambo shit outta here. Treat YOURSELF with more respect than the nonsense you're spewing.

Yup, racially charged words used with the intent to incite an emotional reaction. It's funny too cause they were all in the same thread. Not only that but this below was especially hilarious.

So much buffoonery here. BC, if you don't want insulting words attributed to your posts/character, stop making it soooooooooo easy.

So umm yeah. Stop making the race baiter claims so easy to make. (shrugs)

Pump those brakes ASAP brodie chan (coding?).

Here's the BC quote I called him out for:

"Though we po' black folk sho is beholdin' to ya, for so GRACIOUSLY pointing out the error of our ways."

What is he doing, besides (in a mocking tone, to be certain) playing that sort of sambo role, as the bumbling, no nothing black man? I called him out on it, for reasons previously provided. Please tell me how this is race baiting?

Buffoon: a ridiculous but amusing person.

Again, where is this insidious racial speak you accuse me of using?

I'm dead serious, go back and check out my interactions with Fuzzy, Balsary, and AtomicMouse, amongst others. If you genuinely believe my interactions differ based on the race of my opposing debater, I will let this issue die and accept your (bogus until shown otherwise) accusations that I am a racist, race baiter, etc.

What you are failing to grasp is the radical idea that one can criticize another, even another from a different race, without it being about race. They can disagree with them based on a litany of reasons, some of which might just include their actions and ideology. Crazy stuff, ain't it?
 
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aka you've been trolling black people since you signed up.

Shucks you missed the 'Mr. T' avatar said member used to have. Rather loathsome actually considering the rage pounded out with every keystroke and ceaseless posts on race.

Six hours. :party2:

Stand-by one must be coming down the chute. The smear-and-hate campaign must continue.
 
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Pump those brakes ASAP brodie chan (coding?).

Here's the BC quote I called him out for:

"Though we po' black folk sho is beholdin' to ya, for so GRACIOUSLY pointing out the error of our ways."

What is he doing, besides (in a mocking tone, to be certain) playing that sort of sambo role, as the bumbling, no nothing black man? I called him out on it, for reasons previously provided. Please tell me how this is race baiting?

Buffoon: a ridiculous but amusing person.

Again, where is this insidious racial speak you accuse me of using?

I'm dead serious, go back and check out my interactions with Fuzzy, Balsary, and AtomicMouse, amongst others. If you genuinely believe my interactions differ based on the race of my opposing debater, I will let this issue die and accept your (bogus until shown otherwise) accusations that I am a racist, race baiter, etc.

What you are failing to grasp is the radical idea that one can criticize another, even another from a different race, without it being about race. They can disagree with them based on a litany of reasons, some of which might just include their actions and ideology. Crazy stuff, ain't it?

Ah so i can't take criticism huh. Kind of like i just did not to long ago. And from you no less. I also admitted my mistake.

Hold on homie. How many topics have you injected yourself into having to do with race? And how many times have you stopped to consider that maybe just maybe your ideals were modified toward a certain mindset? But cousin weren't you the guy constantly telling black people exactly what they should be doing, how they should do it. How they should feel about it. What they should be focusing on. How they should be focusing on it and then had the nerve to say history didn't have a damned thing to do with any of the topics you were placing a hatchet job too?

Come on son, real recognize real. And you are anything but. Check this out. What you don't know can and will hurt your stance brah. And the intire time you and jizzzbucket were penis tapping many already knew about black people standing up against black on black violence. It was only an issue to you because it was a great talking point to bait the race.

Now please. I beg you talk more about race. Please cause the only reason i even used the race baiter thing is to show just how idiotic it is. But...the shoe does fit you perfectly doesn't it?
 

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Ah so i can't take criticism huh. Kind of like i just did not to long ago. And from you no less. I also admitted my mistake.

Hold on homie. How many topics have you injected yourself into having to do with race? And how many times have you stopped to consider that maybe just maybe your ideals were modified toward a certain mindset? But cousin weren't you the guy constantly telling black people exactly what they should be doing, how they should do it. How they should feel about it. What they should be focusing on. How they should be focusing on it and then had the nerve to say history didn't have a damned thing to do with any of the topics you were placing a hatchet job too?

Come on son, real recognize real. And you are anything but. Check this out. What you don't know can and will hurt your stance brah. And the intire time you and jizzzbucket were penis tapping many already knew about black people standing up against black on black violence. It was only an issue to you because it was a great talking point to bait the race.

Now please. I beg you talk more about race. Please cause the only reason i even used the race baiter thing is to show just how idiotic it is. But...the shoe does fit you perfectly doesn't it?

LOL what if I were talkiing...how would that "read" in your mind? Couldn't possibly be that race baiting I'm apparently SOOOOO famous for :rolleyes:

Please don't call me cousin.

No. I did literally NONE of those things. I provided a contrarian and factual view to certain issues.

Seriously, I'm responding as I read it...why are you talking this way? Brah? Nahhhhh, not bout it, bout it playa (more racial coding no doubt, based on nothing but the color of my skin...and I'm the racist, ha).

While you will not recognize this, you've admittedly defeat, or at the very least, comfort in willful ignorance. You've "said" nothing, and fallen back on false, exceedingly vague categorizations to "prove" your beliefs about me, all while providing absolutely nothing to support the initial claims made...which was, quite literally, all I asked of you.

You, sir, have played yourself as the buffoon. While I called BC it for being a passive aggressive accusing sleaze, I'm attributing it to you for being a clown.
 

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The primary takeaway here is that you accused me of being a race baiter and "trolling blacks" because I quoted a black man.

Seriously unfathomable.
 

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LOL what if I were talkiing...how would that "read" in your mind? Couldn't possibly be that race baiting I'm apparently SOOOOO famous for :rolleyes:

Please don't call me cousin.

No. I did literally NONE of those things. I provided a contrarian and factual view to certain issues.

Seriously, I'm responding as I read it...why are you talking this way? Brah? Nahhhhh, not bout it, bout it playa (more racial coding no doubt, based on nothing but the color of my skin...and I'm the racist, ha).

While you will not recognize this, you've admittedly defeat, or at the very least, comfort in willful ignorance. You've "said" nothing, and fallen back on false, exceedingly vague categorizations to "prove" your beliefs about me, all while providing absolutely nothing to support the initial claims made...which was, quite literally, all I asked of you.

You, sir, have played yourself as the buffoon. While I called BC it for being a passive aggressive accusing sleaze, I'm attributing it to you for being a clown.

My case was made before you started typing. Seriously, think about it. The second anyone explained what a race baiter was you and others had already fell into it. All things being equal right? Yup.
 

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The primary takeaway here is that you accused me of being a race baiter and "trolling blacks" because I quoted a black man.

Seriously unfathomable.

No dumbass. You are a race baiter because you primarily talk about race. You use race to incite emotion from others. Whenever race is talked about there you are. You...live for it. It's in your damn sig you fucknut. :biggrin1:

Edit: Oh and please tell me how stupid the whole race baiter thing is so you can finally grow some hair on your sack. Cause it is stupid. And it is useless but you don't have the balls to say it.
 

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My case was made before you started typing. Seriously, think about it. The second anyone explained what a race baiter was you and others had already fell into it. All things being equal right? Yup.

Fell into it? YOU CALLED ME A RACE BAITER!!!

Last call, folks...cabs ahh heeahhhh!!!
 

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No dumbass. You are a race baiter because you primarily talk about race. You use race to incite emotion from others. Whenever race is talked about there you are. You...live for it. It's in your damn sig you fucknut. :biggrin1:

There you have it folks. BoyOBoy this is some next level ish.
 

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Are you telling Fuzzy that there's something suspicious about making post after post about how much trouble black people get into, all without any explanation?

I would think it evident even to the absolutely clueless, which WE certainly aren't (contrary to their own belief, apparently).

I've read through this entire thread; paying attention to your posts (since you are the OP) trying to gain an understanding of the angle that you're trying to take here and that is all I can come up with. I tried to rationalize it but you keep falling back to what is my perception of it. So I am asking you to clarify what exactly do you mean and you deflect the question rather than to answer or restate what you've said. I mentioned nothing about starting a thread and i'm sorry you took your own view as to what I wrote. However; the examples i've given are exactly what you have done with your posting, which at this point seems to me that you are attempting to generalize an entire culture by those with the celebrity platform and using poor examples of such.

Now, if you had done your homework before hand your thread may have went something like (Do those with celebrity status not realize that they do serve as some form of role model? With the meaning that, they have the platform to do better but choose not to like several others who use their platform for the betterment of society as a whole.)

So I restate my very first question "Correct me if i'm wrong" to "Please help me to understand the angle at which you mean by the posting of this thread?"; please and thank you. :smile:

The reason why we keep asking more or less the same question as you pose above is because the rationale and excuse given for this kind of thread (especially as it relates to Brown's killing, according to the o.p.'s OWN admission) is at best a BOGUS one.

Owing to what it accomplishes, the rationale, the excuse, just doesn't "wash". Even the title is fraudulent.

The thread has nothing to do with the responsibility of black athletes or entertainers to fight racism. Would that it did, it MIGHT address concerns whether or not black athletes have remained TOO silent on Michael Brown's killing, as suggested in this piece:

Commentary: Where Are the Voices of Black Athletes About Ferguson? | News | BET

But then again, he wouldn't think to be critical of that. In fact, to carry the supposed topic further one MIGHT equally ask, "What are the responsibilities of white athletes and entertainers in "fighting racism", seeing as how he referenced Brown's killing as a purpose for the thread. Of them, only Alyssa Milano spoke out on it, best to my knowledge. Where are all the rest?

But no, this thread is about NONE of that. It is merely an attempt (and a bogus assed one at that, IMO) to focus attention away from the behavior of rogue law enforcement, and ONTO the behavior of certain black people, for the purpose of (as you observed) "generalizing an entire culture", something he isn't alone in doing, (as you're about to see in my next post).

Add to the fact that this same person, when asked about his work with N.Y. city minorities and how THEY felt about that city's stop and frisk law, responded by essentially saying "they need to cooperate more", and one gets an overall picture that doesn't require much reading between the lines, I think.
 
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Shucks you missed the 'Mr. T' avatar said member used to have. Rather loathsome actually considering the rage pounded out with every keystroke and ceaseless posts on race.



Stand-by one must be coming down the chute. The smear-and-hate campaign must continue.

I missed it. Everything i said was based off of the last few months. But it wasn't all that difficult to surmise.