Ridiculous Political Parallels

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

Well to address the issue of why people get pissed when Obama's middle name is brought up... It's because it's typically done by conservatives (or anti-obama democrats) and emphasized as though it's cause for alarm. Oh no, he has the same middle name as Saddam's... last... name. Snap! It's a cheap scare tactic.

 

[ripsrips]

Hey I 100% agree that bush is and will always be a twit..dumb fuc_. you name it.
and he screwed us.
However the last two years that congress has been in control we've seen more "inaction" than any congrees in history, worst ever 9% approval rating. Pelosi and her cronies have their own agenda now matter what the populace says.

one example 75% of dems now say drill for oil, she says no...the inmates are really running it!

And yes I gather my info from the internet...and from publications also. what I don't do is get it from hardcore liberal or consevative sites, they tend to skewe too much to make their side look like saints. Thats the source of misinformation.

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

So what if Barack Hussein Obama is a 100% Muslim name? Obama was raised a good part of life in a Muslim country (Indonesia), may have even attended a Madrassa (an Islamic school there)

He lived in Indonesia for four years and attended a school with a primarily Muslim student body. It was no more a Muslim school than a public school in the south is a Christian school.
Just to clear that up.

Remember the prince said these voters are bitter and they "cling to their bibles and their guns". He didn't say they cling to their Korans.

Why would he say that? It's called the Bible Belt, not the Qur'an Belt.

He has CHANGED his position on gun control from supporting gun control to saying, well maybe the local jurisdiction should handle it. That CHANGE, he figures will get him middle class votes because every survey you see says that 2nd admendment rights are very important to middle class voters.

God-forbid he reassess his stance. No way he actually decided it would be a better idea to leave it up to local jurisdiction. That doesn't even make sense anyway. I mean, Topeka needs the same levels of gun control as Compton. It should be left on an all-encompassing federal level.
Still, it could just be in addition to his stance on federal gun control. Sort of like how there's a federal minimum wage, but each state is permitted to set their own, as long as it's no lower than the federal. The federal government could set minimum restrictions on gun use and ownership, while local jurisdiction is free to set stricter ones if need be.

The prince early on realized that he needed to CHANGE his religion to get middle class votes. So he joined a psudo-Christian church that taught black liberation theology. That way Christians could identify with him since the name of his church was Trinity United Church of Christ.

His mother was an Atheist, so he was considered one growing up. (Until adulthood, you're considered to be whatever religion your mother is.) He joined the church and became a Christian in the early 80s as a young adult. This was before his political career began.

He has also CHANGED his position on getting out of Iraq. Remember he made headlines saying quick and immediate withdrawal but now he says he favors a staged withdrawal that could take 2 years and the US will maintain a long term presence in Iraq.

Actually, he never said we have to get everyone back from Iraq all at once. He said we need to start the withdrawal immediately and that the complete process would take a couple of years. He's been talking about an exit strategy time table since late 2007.
As for the maintained presence, there's also contractual civilian jobs being offered over there on a regular basis. Maintaining those would qualify as a long term American presence.

If you thought Bush and his administration was a total screwup.....just wait. Obama and his Socialist screwups are a trainwreck waiting to happen.

Bush is the king of leap-before-you-look. Obama has atleast shown that he can think ahead.

 

[marleyisalegend]

Why do liberals go crazy when people point out the middle name?? What's so bad about that?!?

So what if Barack Hussein Obama is a 100% Muslim name? Obama was raised a good part of life in a Muslim country (Indonesia), may have even attended a Madrassa (an Islamic school there), his dad is an African Muslim, he was raised by a Muslim step-dad.... it is expected he'd have a Muslim background and a Muslim name!!!

So why is it wrong to use the candidate's middle name???

Don't play stupid. You know good and damned well that middle name is often used as a fear tactic. Oh no! His middle name is Muslim! He must have ties to terrorism and beating subservient women and chopping heads off!! Why ask questions you already know the answer to?

 

[B_Nick4444]

Don't play stupid. You know good and damned well that middle name is often used as a fear tactic. Oh no! His middle name is Muslim! He must have ties to terrorism and beating subservient women and chopping heads off!! Why ask questions you already know the answer to?

not necessarily a fear tactic

just helps shed light on who and what he is

 

[mista geechee]

not necessarily a fear tactic

just helps shed light on who and what he is

And who and what is that ? Please, do tell...

 

[B_Nick4444]

And who and what is that ? Please, do tell...

some of us are still working on that one, kind sir!

 

[mista geechee]

some of us are still working on that one, kind sir!

So supposedly his name gives some clue to what and who he is, but you don't know what he is. So you're just talking for fucks sake ? Trying to use his name against him but you don't know why ?

 

[marleyisalegend]

And who and what is that ? Please, do tell...

A scary black, anti-American Muslim terrorist!!!

some of us are still working on that one, kind sir!

You sure? It sounds like the jury has already convicted him. At the expense of the slightest recognition of the corruption Mccain has already shown, people obssess over what Obama MIGHT do and MIGHT be.

 

[B_Nick4444]

So supposedly his name gives some clue to what and who he is, but you don't know what he is. So you're just talking for fucks sake ? Trying to use his name against him but you don't know why ?

no

what are his allegiances? sympathies? animosities?

what are the little bits and pieces that together make up the man?

 

[B_Nick4444]

for example, would you expect Obama to have the same perspective as an old family New England Episcopalian?

or even a black, Mississippi born and bred, black Southern Baptist?

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

No, but pointing out his full name, emphasizing the middle name as so many do when they do so, isn't going to help. All it tells is where his family is from.
My paternal grandfather served in the military. My last name is German. That doesn't mean he was a Nazi soldier.

 

[marleyisalegend]

what are his allegiances? sympathies? animosities? what are the little bits and pieces that together make up the man?

Speculation, fodder, speculation, fodder, this wheel is making me dizzy. I can only imagine what's going through your head when you think of Obama's "allegiances." And animosities? Has he ever displayed any? Would you like to add Whitey-hater to the list of Obama "characteristics"? Might as well, anti-American terrorist is already on that list.

for example, would you expect Obama to have the same perspective as an old family New England Episcopalian?

or even a black, Mississippi born and bred, black Southern Baptist?

WTF?!?!? Since when have we expected this? Would any of the rich white men who held office before him have the same perspective as a black, Mississippi born.......

Like someone else said, this is nitpicking at it's most fervent. He MIGHT be this (when Mccain already is), he MIGHT do that (something Mccain's already done), he said this and he said that, and the clever little hints that he has ties to anti-Americanism.

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

Let's not forget things it sounded like he (or his wife) said.

Whitey! Whitey! Whitey!

 

[marleyisalegend]

Let's not forget things it sounded like he (or his wife) said.

Whitey! Whitey! Whitey!

LOL, I'm still waitin' on that tape to be released, wasn't it promised quite a few months ago?

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

I don't know. But I've heard that she was saying "Why'd he..." Apparently, "whitey" only made grammatic sense in about half of the sentences. She may be black, but she is well-educated.

 

[B_Nick4444]

Speculation, fodder, speculation, fodder, this wheel is making me dizzy. I can only imagine what's going through your head when you think of Obama's "allegiances." And animosities? Has he ever displayed any? Would you like to add Whitey-hater to the list of Obama "characteristics"? Might as well, anti-American terrorist is already on that list.



WTF?!?!? Since when have we expected this? Would any of the rich white men who held office before him have the same perspective as a black, Mississippi born.......

Like someone else said, this is nitpicking at it's most fervent. He MIGHT be this (when Mccain already is), he MIGHT do that (something Mccain's already done), he said this and he said that, and the clever little hints that he has ties to anti-Americanism.

like I said all the little pieces add up ... If I were to tell you some of my family history, descended from Revolutionary War heroes, or just off the boat, my religious upbringing, any changes I made in church attendance ... if I were to tell you that my parents remained married all their lives, or that they divorced when I was at such and such an age ... if I were to tell you that I attended private schools, or public schools, or private military academies ... that I served in this branch of the armed forces, or that branch, that I was an officer, that I was never an officer ... that I traveled extensively throughout the world, that I never left my home State ... different images would form in your mind ... eventually, a picture of my wholeness ... eventually, you would be able to surmise that I hold to this or that perspective ... andyou just might be able to surmise correctly ... even if you weren't able to, you would have a better picture of who I might be

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

We'd have an idea of your upbringing, but not of your political ideologies. Everything would just be speculation and hearsay. The people accusing Obama of anti-Americanism typically state it is fact.

 

[B_Nick4444]

The people accusing Obama of anti-Americanism typically state it is fact.

which is exactly what one would expect in a political contest

 

[D_Thoraxis_Biggulp]

Doesn't make it any less annoying.
You know Rush Hour traffic is gonna be there, but it still pisses you off.