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Discussion in 'Politics' started by ZOS23xy, Mar 25, 2010.
Nixon's Plan For Health Reform, In His Own Words - Kaiser Health News
Dude, care to post something more than a link to some place else?
Nonetheless, reading that Nixon proposal was a rather civil walk down memory lane. He's still a criminal as far as I'm concerned, never liked him even when he was Vice President. But he comes across as a flaming liberal in that 1974 proposal, which of course he personally never wrote. His staff, however, did.
It says a lot about just how reactionary right-wing the republican party has become in the intervening years.
It certainly does. And we use to think he was somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun.
But for a bad streak of paranoia and a tendency to bomb countries illegally, Nixon could have been a good President.
Nixon was an outstanding president in many ways.
Nixon was an outstanding president in many ways............. except for his massive paranoia.
Nixon was an arrogant, paranoid admitted criminal who did more damage during his first four years as Vice President to Eisenhower (who openly admitted he couldn't stand the GOP ass kisser/blow job giver) since Benedict Arnold. Yeah, this Hallowe'en I'm sure the GOP will re-invent itself by finding a Democratic "traitor's" micro film hidden in a pumpkin in a pumpkin patch. If he was outstanding for anything, it was for out standing in a field.
Just a thought, considering the upheaval of recent weeks in political arenas: George W. Bush stupid arrogant stances made me miss Richard Nixon. What kind of monster do we have coming to make us miss George W. Bush?
straight from the third world -- Barack Hussen Owe-bama
that you don't recognize it, shows how far left the liberal side of the aisle has become
Nicky poo, drinking vodka from the bottle with a straw this morning?
I can guess you're clearly clueless here. This was how the right wing of the country was dealing with issues needing to be dealt with now--as then. The only difference is that Nixon didn't get to have his plan put into effect. (I wonder if Ben Stein wrote it?)
Clearly, the hotheads of this generation are a meaner and more ill mannered lot--and they're from the right. Sorry, you're not even thinking here. You're a knee jerk right wing nut. Give you an example to you, and you write something like "libtard" (which isn't even a word), or "Owe bama" or some other neologism which undermines your effort at discussion. Or dismissal.
If Pol Pot was president I would still not miss Zippy W. Bush.
Some folks have such short memory spans that they are unaffected by the clear lack of rationality in much of the opposition to the new law on health care in the USA.
My hope is that one day those who want to claim superiority of the USA will finally get it into their heads that we could take a few lessons from the "lesser powers" in the world who manage to get better medical care for more people at less cost than we in the USA manage to get, even though we have the means to do a better job for every everyone.
The truly sad feature in all of this is the way in which too many of our fellow citizens are willing to be manipulated by those who have learned how to use power to further their own selfish aims in defiance of the general welfare.
Even free persons can be manipulated if they allow it.
Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican , first proposed national health care in 1908. The Republicans hate to acknowledge him or Nixon regarding this issue. Once again, it is the Repugnantcans in denial.
and that is where they belong: in de Nile; about 5 feet down.
OMG, man! OMG!
well, if you need the obvious spelled out for you,
clearly you missed the point
compare the post-60's left with, say, the liberalism of John F. Kennedy
clearly much more dangerous to the nation, more ideological, and so distant from the mass of Americans, and the nation's core values
it's not just the right
inevitably so, given the two party system
you might just get a clue from the numbers of the electorate who are withdrawing from each extreme position
Reform of health care is NOT an extreme position when the health care system is EXTREMELY damaging to the people who pay for it. People withdraw from the two party system when they dont see anyone doing anything about it , despite their pleas to the contrary. Only now that the details of the refrom are finally emerging will people have the ability to get past the sound and fury of thousands of heatlh industry hacks and lobbyists screaming at the top of their lungs. Perhaps that will help .
^Maybe.... But people on the right are still lying their asses off about HCR... Just like how we've all come to discover that not only is the 'mandate' not really a mandate, but there isn't even an enforceable penalty if you don't have insurance! The govt really wants you to go get it, and they'll help you pay for it if necessary, but if you don't get it, nothing happens. There is no tax penalty. (it was stripped out, but the wingnuts were screaming so hard lying their asses off about it, that the Dems just kept quiet about it, and let them go ahead and make complete asses of themselves in front of the world)