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What exactly is foolish about that? You'd really like to believe that there are NO rational minds observing this case in favor of Michael Brown, wouldn't you? For you, anyone that feels that Willson or his Police Department should face SOME sort of repercussions for the way this case has been mishandled....suffers from some sort of mental deficiency.... which is why people here don't take your claims of being unbiased serious...

Orrrrrrr actually read the chunk you chose to quote...which mentions nothing more than my response to Storm's idiotic belief that nobody (as in NO people) wants to see Wilson crucified (punished) for something he may well not be guilty of.

Would you seriously dispute my point of view on that?

I've made my opinions on the case clear: to assert that my beliefs in any way resemble the trash above is epic foolishness.
 

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Orrrrrrr actually read the chunk you chose to quote...which mentions nothing more than my response to Storm's idiotic belief that nobody (as in NO people) wants to see Wilson crucified (punished) for something he may well not be guilty of.

Would you seriously dispute my point of view on that?

I've made my opinions on the case clear: to assert that my beliefs in any way resemble the trash above is epic foolishness.

So you DON'T think people want to "unjustly" "crucify" Daren Wilson?
 

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So you DON'T think people want to "unjustly" "crucify" Daren Wilson?

Not even a little bit. I KNOW that there are a good deal of individuals who want to see Wilson literally hanged (no knowledge of peeps desiring literal crucifixion), regardless of guilt.

Again, are these things you would seriously consider disputing? That would be like me disputing the existence of white individuals who praise Wilson for killing another N word thug.

Don't disagree for the sake of disagreement. None of what I called Storm out for is in any way outlandish.
 

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So you DON'T think people want to "unjustly" "crucify" Daren Wilson?
Steroid for brains fails to understand that no one here called for Wilson's crucifixion and yet he also failed to see some from his"side" call for Wilson to be exonerated before there was even an investigation. For someone unbiased he sure picks sides doesn't he? He also fails to see himself as part of the problem because if there are 100 people and 95 protest peacefully and only 5 "act the fool" as the looters did then he, among others use those 5 to justify their hatred and anger at the others.

I guess he'll just continue thinking as mommy and daddy tell him, listen to rap music pretending he's "down" so he can quote it and call others "son", hang with his "homies", and then run back to his computer where he can be his true self as he calls anyone who questions the status quo, racebaiters or hustlers.
 
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Steroid for brains fails to understand that no one here called for Wilson's crucifixion and yet he also failed to see some from his"side" call for Wilson to be exonerated before there was even an investigation. For someone unbiased he sure picks sides doesn't he? He also fails to see himself as part of the problem because if there are 100 people and 95 protest peacefully and only 5 "act the fool" as the looters did then he, among others use those 5 to justify their hatred and anger at the others.

If anyone had a shred of integrity here, they'd call out your posts for the BS they are. I made no mention of anyone here doing any such thing, AND I did, literally in the post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS, grants that a good many on "my side" consider Wilson a hero for less than admirable reasons. Stop playing the mental midget, and engage in a discussion, rather than spewing insults.

It's funny how that 95/5 split hypothetical you brought up made my point for me, and rather emphatically.

Note: I'm taking the steroids comment as a compliment ;)
 

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DOJ Not Happy About This Report on Its Investigation Into Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson | TheBlaze.com

For the DOJ to even begin to "investigate" this matter did nothing but set up the inevitable backlash when no charges were/are rendered. What's the point?

I'm not saying Wilson wasn't stirred to act by racial animus (it is certainly a possibility), but I feel that to prove it beyond any reasonable doubt is just about as impossible as it gets. You would essentially need a character a la Bernie Mac in "Don't Be A Menace To South Central..." in addition to documented video, along with consistent actions taken by Wilson to target black individuals based on nothing but their race.

To say this strikes me as a losing battle is an understatement, but at what point does even investigating such matters (under current law) become an act in futility?
 

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Some feel that if nothing's gonna change then everyone should just remain silent and complacent. Some feel that every thing is black or white. Some feel that by playing "impartial" observer they are justified in telling others that they are playing a card.
It's not enough to say that doubt exists on both sides but only applies to one. No one is asking for Wilson's crucifixion. What is being asked is should there be some downside to his actions? What is being asked is why allow him the benefit of the doubt when Brown is afforded no such opportunity? If beyond all shadow of doubt we don't know the intent of Wilson when he shot Brown then why allow that Brown was guilty of all he has been accused of? If doubt exists for one then it exists for all. Will he think before pulling his weapon next time or will he have a sense that TPTB will look the other way? As for the small minds who paint this as black/white we ask would you be okay with cops shooting anyone and walking free and clear because they claimed a clean shoot? Are cops held to a different standard? Are they somehow perfect once they put on the uniform?

Cops are held at a different standard but i think thats changing. One of the many changes i see happening.

And it has to be that blacks are out for blood. How else can people make the black community out to be animals without crossing known do not pass go lines? It's the only way to do it now a days. Thats why islam is all of a sudden generalized as it is. Cause it's an excuse to wipe out scores of innocent people. So that that there conscience has somewhere soft to lay it's head at night.

It's also why in a discussion between adults that certain words are used to light fire to emotions. Cause if the person reacts then the "they are emotional" or "they don't know what their talking about" or the "this person is crazy" is all of sudden a fact or even more of a fact when its either far from the truth or has little to do with the actual discussion. And people not being able to recognize when these tactics are used against others just means that they won't be able to see it when they have it done to them.

It's amazing. And it's why america is fucked. And why it will continue to get fucked.

Very nicely worded...

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Cops are held at a different standard but i think thats changing. One of the many changes i see happening.

And it has to be that blacks are out for blood. How else can people make the black community out to be animals without crossing known do not pass go lines? It's the only way to do it now a days. Thats why islam is all of a sudden generalized as it is. Cause it's an excuse to wipe out scores of innocent people. So that that there conscience has somewhere soft to lay it's head at night.

It's also why in a discussion between adults that certain words are used to light fire to emotions. Cause if the person reacts then the "they are emotional" or "they don't know what their talking about" or the "this person is crazy" is all of sudden a fact or even more of a fact when its either far from the truth or has little to do with the actual discussion. And people not being able to recognize when these tactics are used against others just means that they won't be able to see it when they have it done to them.

It's amazing. And it's why america is fucked. And why it will continue to get fucked.



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As long as there are those who can portray this as a black/white thing they are okay. Cops can shoot "them" because I'm not affected. What they fail to see is that one day what's to stop police officers to feel that the law doesn't apply to them and treat EVERYONE as beneath them. That some seek to excuse this shooting as well as other questionable actions seems to only bother those who have a level of empathy.
 

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Cops are held at a different standard but i think thats changing. One of the many changes i see happening.

And it has to be that blacks are out for blood. How else can people make the black community out to be animals without crossing known do not pass go lines? It's the only way to do it now a days. Thats why islam is all of a sudden generalized as it is. Cause it's an excuse to wipe out scores of innocent people. So that that there conscience has somewhere soft to lay it's head at night.

It's also why in a discussion between adults that certain words are used to light fire to emotions. Cause if the person reacts then the "they are emotional" or "they don't know what their talking about" or the "this person is crazy" is all of sudden a fact or even more of a fact when its either far from the truth or has little to do with the actual discussion. And people not being able to recognize when these tactics are used against others just means that they won't be able to see it when they have it done to them.

It's amazing. And it's why america is fucked. And why it will continue to get fucked.



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Would you seriously advocate holding police officers to the exact same standard as a regular citizen?

That's a quick way to vastly diminish the quality of officers and fill up the already overcrowded jail system.

In regards to the rest, where are you even coming up with this? Blacks out for blood? Whaaaaaaa?
 

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As long as there are those who can portray this as a black/white thing they are okay. Cops can shoot "them" because I'm not affected. What they fail to see is that one day what's to stop police officers to feel that the law doesn't apply to them and treat EVERYONE as beneath them. That some seek to excuse this shooting as well as other questionable actions seems to only bother those who have a level of empathy.

Ignorance abounds.

There is a difference between dismissing the shooting and stating the belief that, based upon the evidence available, there would not be enough to render a guilty verdict beyond all reasonable doubt.

Funny how just above you Pops chastises the very thing some here have consistently done from jump street.
 
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Ignorance abounds.

There is a difference between dismissing the shooting and stating the belief that, based upon the evidence available, there would not be enough to render a guilty verdict beyond all reasonable doubt.

Shouldn't the narrative of victimization take precedence over due process and fair trial, in the name of "Racial Justice"?

Was "evidence" needed for a guilty verdict in, say, the Duke Lacrosse, Tawana Brawley, KKK Sighting At Oberlin, and "epidemic" of Black Church Burning matters?

Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tawana Brawley rape allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oberlin's KKK Sighting May Have Been Person In A Blanket

Bestselling author Michael Fumento reports: "USA Today’s Arson Artistry."

 

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Would you seriously advocate holding police officers to the exact same standard as a regular citizen?

That's a quick way to vastly diminish the quality of officers and fill up the already overcrowded jail system.

In regards to the rest, where are you even coming up with this? Blacks out for blood? Whaaaaaaa?

So you combat my post with a lie huh? Wasn't unexpected. Seeing as how you're too young to pick up a book or read a news article. I guess you lying about the opinions of the people you are against is a better way to attack their character. Whaaaa! A mainstay of the republican party you say? What? Take people's words, throw'm in a blinder and use them against the person. So what you're telling me is, you just used the same exact tactics you lied and said in another part of the politics section that you hated.

So i guess your morals aren't on the up and up. So i guess i was right about you. So i guess i caught you in a lie. So i guess you'll sooner lie about the opinions of others than actually discuss things on an even level. So i guess you've just done what many a republican has done throughout their entire careers. Which is, talk about morals then throw them right out of the window the second they see something as a weakness. Come on son. You can fool a certain percentage of people on this site and maybe in real life but i had your number a long time ago.

Come on republican politician, hit me with some more of those nice juicey tactics that republican politicians have been using for years. Tell me more about how you hate lies and stuff but will do those things in a heart beat. Come on white jesus turn my words into more wine. (i just thought that up and damn does it have multiple meanings....and i bet you can't figure out a one)

(Starts talking out loud to myself) Morality police? Puh lezzz. Can't even fake that shit correctly. (voice starts trailing off as i leave the thread) I don't even know why i tried to reason with this dude in the first place. Too young to read up on previous presidents....are you fucking kidding me...who says that on a politics specific forum without getting laugh at until they pee their little......
 

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Shouldn't the narrative of victimization take precedence over due process and fair trial, in the name of "Racial Justice"?

Was "evidence" needed for a guilty verdict in, say, the Duke Lacrosse, Tawana Brawley, KKK Sighting At Oberlin, and "epidemic" of Black Church Burning matters?

Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tawana Brawley rape allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oberlin's KKK Sighting May Have Been Person In A Blanket

Bestselling author Michael Fumento reports: "USA Today’s Arson Artistry."


Ok now i get it. You are one of those. lol.

Keep going republican man. Yeah those blacks just want racial justice/genocide. They are out for BLOOOOOOODDDD! OMG their just like those kkk's except they don't actually kill people and get away with it. Lets paint them all completely with the exact same brush cause we're gearing this toward one entire race and that won't trigger a negative response in fair minded people at all.

Those other posters were totally wrong about that blacks behaving badly thing. Cause we point out what all blacks have done and will push everything to not only look negative but not even begin to criticize any other race as heavily.

Hey dom, justice usually means for all doesn't it? If blacks didn't have to worry about injustices wouldn't that mean other injustices would see the same effect? Or am i like a nut job or whatever. Cause last time i checked the police weren't only screwing over the black community.

Saw a few videos online of a bunch of different races getting the long and often extreme arm of the law, even when they haven't done anything wrong. So i don't know. Yeah keep it up. I'm sure those other races will definitely see things your way. After they recover from their concussions that is. Hows that privilege treatin ya along with that intense purposeful ignorance. The privilege i'm sure keeps you from encountering this sort of thing and that ignorance keeps you from noticing that it's not only black people that get this stuff. But go ahead, none of this will hurt your stance at all.
 
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Cause last time i checked the police weren't only screwing over the black community.

As long as they keep doing it you will get his approval. If there is collateral damage so what? Conservatives screw over gays all the time and that's no problem at all from someone claiming '99% gay' :confused: This has been the GOP playbook since Lee Atwater. I would leave that train wreck alone.
 

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Ok now i get it. You are one of those. lol.

Keep going republican man. Yeah those blacks just want racial justice/genocide. They are out for BLOOOOOOODDDD! OMG their just like those kkk's except they don't actually kill people and get away with it. Lets paint them all completely with the exact same brush cause we're gearing this toward one entire race and that won't trigger a negative response in fair minded people at all.

Those other posters were totally wrong about that blacks behaving badly thing. Cause we point out what all blacks have done and will push everything to not only look negative but not even begin to criticize any other race as heavily.

Hey dom, justice usually means for all doesn't it? If blacks didn't have to worry about injustices wouldn't that mean other injustices would see the same effect? Or am i like a nut job or whatever. Cause last time i checked the police weren't only screwing over the black community.

Saw a few videos online of a bunch of different races getting the long and often extreme arm of the law, even when they haven't done anything wrong. So i don't know. Yeah keep it up. I'm sure those other races will definitely see things your way. After they recover from their concussions that is. Hows that privilege treatin ya along with that intense purposeful ignorance. The privilege i'm sure keeps you from encountering this sort of thing and that ignorance keeps you from noticing that it's not only black people that get this stuff. But go ahead, none of this will hurt your stance at all.

Goofsfraba popyuu, goofsfraba!

Hey, weren't you the one who wanted to take down the partisan politics? In just two posts, you whipped out republicans accusations without any need to bring up politics. Oh well.
 

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Shouldn't the narrative of victimization take precedence over due process and fair trial, in the name of "Racial Justice"?

Was "evidence" needed for a guilty verdict in, say, the Duke Lacrosse, Tawana Brawley, KKK Sighting At Oberlin, and "epidemic" of Black Church Burning matters?

Duke lacrosse case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tawana Brawley rape allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oberlin's KKK Sighting May Have Been Person In A Blanket

Bestselling author Michael Fumento reports: "USA Today’s Arson Artistry."

Essentially one can say that you see the Brown shooting as "an eye for an eye". It doesn't matter to you if there are abuses because to you you can say " They had it coming". You,along with some others here, have take a stance that no investigation should have been done because an officer's word is sacred and he only shot "one of them".

For every mention of Tawana Brawley should I remind you of Charles Stuart and Susan Smith, two white individuals who caused major panic after accusing black men of committing the crimes they themselves performed?
 

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Ok now i get it. You are one of those. lol.

Keep going republican man. Yeah those blacks just want racial justice/genocide. They are out for BLOOOOOOODDDD! OMG their just like those kkk's except they don't actually kill people and get away with it. Lets paint them all completely with the exact same brush cause we're gearing this toward one entire race and that won't trigger a negative response in fair minded people at all.

Those other posters were totally wrong about that blacks behaving badly thing. Cause we point out what all blacks have done and will push everything to not only look negative but not even begin to criticize any other race as heavily.

Hey dom, justice usually means for all doesn't it? If blacks didn't have to worry about injustices wouldn't that mean other injustices would see the same effect? Or am i like a nut job or whatever. Cause last time i checked the police weren't only screwing over the black community.

Saw a few videos online of a bunch of different races getting the long and often extreme arm of the law, even when they haven't done anything wrong. So i don't know. Yeah keep it up. I'm sure those other races will definitely see things your way. After they recover from their concussions that is. Hows that privilege treatin ya along with that intense purposeful ignorance. The privilege i'm sure keeps you from encountering this sort of thing and that ignorance keeps you from noticing that it's not only black people that get this stuff. But go ahead, none of this will hurt your stance at all.
You and I know it and so do all those who don't drag their knuckles as they walk. As long as the focus is on police officers doing wrong to "them" then the usual suspects could care less and even excuse it but what happens when one day "they" become the targets? What the usual suspects fail to understand is that police departments need for regular citizens tobe aware of their actions. If allowed to get away with something when does it stop? First oppress one group...then another....then another...and so on.
 

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Goofsfraba popyuu, goofsfraba!

Hey, weren't you the one who wanted to take down the partisan politics? In just two posts, you whipped out republicans accusations without any need to bring up politics. Oh well.
They aren't accusations when one is presented evidence over the past few months. They cease being accusations and become facts.
 
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Essentially one can say that you see the Brown shooting as "an eye for an eye". It doesn't matter to you if there are abuses because to you you can say " They had it coming". You,along with some others here, have take a stance that no investigation should have been done because an officer's word is sacred and he only shot "one of them".

For every mention of Tawana Brawley should I remind you of Charles Stuart and Susan Smith, two white individuals who caused major panic after accusing black men of committing the crimes they themselves performed?



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Huh? What I am saying is that I abhor the rush to judgement. Sharpton and the usual gang of self-serving Grievance Industrialists flocked to those cases like flies flock to feces...then the said shit hit the fan as they were standing by...Some people never learn.

 

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Huh? What I am saying is that I abhor the rush to judgement. Sharpton and the usual gang of self-serving Grievance Industrialists flocked to those cases like flies flock to feces...then the said shit hit the fan as they were standing by...Some people never learn.

Where is your outrage about the rush to judgement against Michael Brown? Do you now claim that you were unaware of those on "your side" who automatically heard the story and ran with it calling Wilson justified and Brown a "thug"? Were you as abhored with those who believed everything negative that "leaked" concerning Brown but anything regarding Wilson was greeted with a grain of salt?