Roman Polanski Finally Arrested for 1977 Rape of Minor

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  1. jason_els

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    Roman Polanski has been arrested and detained in Switzerland while trying to enter the country from his home in France. Swiss authorities detained Polanski on an outstanding American warrant for his arrest in connection with his alleged rape of a 13 year old girl.

    Polanski is the Oscar-winning director of The Pianist and has directed other classics like Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown. He is the widower of actress Sharon Tate who was murdered by the Manson family in 1969.

    Polanski is one of the most famous fugitives of American justice in the world. The alleged rape occurred in the home of actor Jack Nicholson and his then girlfriend, actress Angelica Huston. Nicholson was not at home at the time but Huston was. The charges allege that Polanski first drugged the girl and then raped her. Huston claims that the girl did not appear to be 13.

    Polanski was arrested, arraigned, and Polanski plead guilty to one charge of sexual intercourse with a minor but fled the US before he was sentenced.

    Polanski's victim, Samantha Geimer, has since announced that she has received a monetary settlement from Polanski and has no interest in re-living the event again in a court room.

    There has been a lot of talk about Polanski's case. Many feel that since his victim has no interest in pursuing the matter any longer that charges against him should be dropped. At the time of the original case, the judge made some unethical deals with prosecutors in order to avoid a media circus in his court room and so some argue Polanski should be tried all over again. Others state that he should be prosecuted for the crime anyway and, at the very least, be prosecuted for failing to appear at his sentencing.

    Swiss officials will hold extradition hearings and they have cautioned everyone that no determination about Polanski will be made until the extradition hearings have taken place.

    So what say you?
     
  2. bigdicksarebest

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    Leave it alone. If the "victim" doesn't want to press charges then let it go
     
  3. midlifebear

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    Well, we're talking about Hollywoooooood (inflect with long dipthong) and now that Mikey is buried, it's a slow week day.

    I say leave Polanski alone. Ms. Geimer has repeatedly said she doesn't think Polanski should be held to a different standard than the rest of the producers, directors, and agents who are still pulling of shit like that. And Polanski was assured by his attorney the presiding judge at the time that if he pled guilty, whether he was guilty or not, he would be given clemency. The La La world's just as corrupt today as it was then, possibly more so.

    One thing is for certain, I won't be traveling to Switzerland anytime again. Brazil? You bet. But this duplicity of the white and shining Swiss is more than I can take. How long did it take to publicly strong arm Swiss banks holding assets of holocaust victims to come forth and make a piece meal attempt and finding living ancestors? Fuck the Swiss. They ain't that nice. Plus their particular German dialect is something I find remarkably annoying (but that's just me).
     
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    He ran.

    He should serve his time.... and the time for fleeing the country.
     
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    Though I guess that anything is possible, I find it highly improbable that this was Polanski's first border crossing into Switzerland in almost 40 years.

    What prompted the arrest now?
     
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    Orange County, California renewed the warrant when they learned that Polanski would be traveling to Switzerland. Apparently they've been spending time and money on this.
     
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    leave the man alone. it's not like he has raped other young women since. americans can be soooo puritanical.
     
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    It may sound like a small nit to pick, but your use of the term alleged is quite inappropriate in this context. You pointed out later in your post that he pleaded guilty to the charge, and fled before final sentencing. Legally speaking, there is no remaining question vis-a-vis his guilt, so the rape is no longer alleged, but is a matter of record.

    I'm a bit ambivalent about this case. On the one hand, he did drug and seduce a 13-year old child and then fled the country to avoid incarceration...on the other, the victim herself has publicly stated that she's worked it out through her own therapy and would prefer the issue go away, and it's highly questionable what rehabilitative value any further sentencing would serve.
     
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    The problem is that the court proceedings of the case may have been tainted by the judge's unethical actions regarding influence of the prosecutors. Polanski can ask for, and will likely receive, a retrial. He plead guilty originally as part of a deal where he would not receive prison time and it appears the judge pressured the prosecution to make such a deal. If that's the case then Polanski was not legaly found guilty and therefore is still considered innocent.

    Nor do I want LPSG or myself to be sued.
     
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    Isn't the ultimate goal of the judicial system supposed to be to serve justice? I find it impossible to do so now, because the victim herself has stated that she won't pursue charges. What are they going to do, make an example of him? Leave the man alone. If the victim doesn't want him incarcerated, what purpose could it possibly serve?
     
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    A lot of rape victims don't want to deal with the process of incarcerating their rapist. I would say she's over it. If this happened 30 years ago she would feel the same way. He should serve his time for the crimes. He pleaded guilty and fled. Just because time passed we should all forget about it. Hell no.
     
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    Whatever actually happened, I can't see that it would be possible to retry this case. With that in mind, I can't see how the Swiss could justify a deportation.
     
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    Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired

    ^^Re: this matter and the documentary of the case:

    Polanksi's plea deal required his incarceration for 90 days, including a psychiatric evaluation, after which he was to be freed. But because Polanski was released after 42 days, the court received negative publicity for treating him leniently. In reaction to the public's umbrage the presiding judge subsequently decided Polanski must have a stiffer sentence imposed upon him. The judge and prosecutor met to collude together in this regard and their collusion violated the terms of Polanski's plea bargain. Before their desire was enacted in the courtroom Polanski was informed that the court would renege on the plea deal and he fled the U.S.A.
    Polanksi's lawyer filed that the case be dismissed due to prosecutorial misconduct, but Polanksi must be present for this claim to be heard.


    If Polanski is extradited I should hope that the case is dismissed.
     
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    I like how they slipped in that little bit about Sharon Tate at the end. Totally useless information, I guess they needed to fill up space? haha
     
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    being a puritan has nothing to do with it.

    condemning a 40 something guy plying a 13 year old girl with booze and drugs then knowingly having sex with her, is hardly being puritanical...

    we are not talking about him having an affair here. or just having some deviant sex.

    at what point does being "sooooooooo" puritanical change in to actually enforcing laws against having sex with people age 13 and under?

    if you would like to tell me tomorrow, that some 40 something year old guy, was in a hot tub with your 13 year old daughter, and he gave her champagne and powerful narcotic pills, together, then had oral, vaginal and anal sex with her, would you taking issue with that be "puritanical" or a legitimate concern?

    there is a difference between being puritanical, and having laws to protect very *CLEARLY* underage children...and yes, you are a child, when you are 13.
     
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    Well, leave it to the French to chime in about "scary america"

    Roman Polanski Arrested in Switzerland, Faces Extradition for 1977 Statutory Rape - ABC News

    "Seeing him alone, imprisoned while he was heading to an event that was due to offer him praise and recognition is awful, he was trapped," French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand said at a news conference today. "In the same way there is a generous America that we like, there is also a scary America, that has just shown its face."

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    "I'm offering my support to Polanski as a French citizen and as the minister for culture. Justice has been denied to him many times in his life, and beauty is something that he has brought though his films," he said, calling Polanski a "wonderful man" and "one of the greatest directors of all time." "If the world of culture does not offer its support to Polanski, then that would mean there is no more culture in this country."


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    Something tells me that had Polanski been an Algerian of little consequence, they would not be that upset about this.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Had he been an Algerian of little consequence, everyone would be baying for his blood. It's just another case of one rule for the poor and inconsequential and one for the rich and famous.

    If he knows that a girl is underage and he's prepared to give her drugs, get her drunk and have sex with her, he should be prepared to take the consequences.

    They're still chasing down Nazis for war crimes. Why should this be any different? Justice is justice.
     
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    With the rich and powerful always patience and a blind eye. Throw the book at the degenerate and maybe the rich and artistic will think twice about debauching kids. After all their trophy wives all look like cloned 12 year old girls.
     
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    This is going to be interesting. Obviously there is something going on behind the scenes since he has been traveling from France to his home in Gstaad for years with immunity; a vendetta perhaps? Today's news has both camps pulling out all the stops, the victims rights groups want him thrown into the slammer for the rest of his life while his political connections in France and Poland are trying to free him. At the minimum I think he's going to serve a little time as a message from the U.S. about never being beyond the long arm of the law (and all that idealistic 8th grade civics class baloney.)

    Doing a web history search, it was interesting during that decade of 1970-80 several directors were really caught up in the Hollywood/ Playboy mansion party scene where they thought they were invincible. If you'll look at some of the photos of the Hugh Hefner parties back then, you can see small physically unimposing little Jewish directors like Roman Polanski (5' 5") and Peter Bogdanovich surrounded by drop-dead gorgeous Playmates and starlets. With all the sex, drugs and hot tubs going on these somewhat unattractive men who could never have access to women (above or below 18) in "real" life could score like a bandit at will.

    At least Samantha Geimer (the victim) is alive, healthy at 46 and living in Hawaii, unlike Peter Bogdanovich's girlfriend Dorothy Stratten who ended up dead at the hands of a jealous ex.
     
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    That's how I feel. I don't mean throw the book at him (and yes, I'm a fan of his work). If the victim wants to drop it that's well and fine after all these years. I have no idea of the legalities involved...or if there's any Statute of limitations on this type of situation, but there should be some penalty for fleeing, no?
     
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