Romney releases his returns!

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I think what Cal meant was once it's back in the States, they'll spend it and the money will be taxed then.

Obama just now: "Romney sure can afford to pay more." Wow. Just wow.

To be fair, he said:

“I can afford to pay a little more and Mitt Romney sure can afford to pay a little more"

He also chided the rally participants when they Booed the mention of Mr. Romney's name:

“Don’t boo. Vote,”

I don't agree with the President's assertion about affording to pay a little more. What does that even mean?
 

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he doesn't take deductions he's legally allowed. that would be defined as overpaying, correct?
so...
is Willard now going to declare himself disqualified for president?

Mitt Romney On Taxes: Overpaying Disqualifies President

Well he said it so he must disqualify himself now. :smile:
(like that is ever gonna happen)

I do wonder how when that quote was pointed out to him, and now showing he didn't take the max deductions he could have taken, balanced out in his mind.
 

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Pfft! Typical Republican style smoke and mirrors.

They know he's running for the presidency so they do a 2011 return and leave off some deductions, just so they can say they did in the campaign.

IT'S FOR SHOW, FOLKS. (LMFAO)

P.S. Call me when he shows the rest of 'em.
 

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Pot calling the kettle black.... just sayin'

BOTH sides are about to walk off the deep end! You're too blind to see it!


Your ability to read is lacking. I said the Dems weren't perfect. And that there used to be a willingness on both sides to compromise. However it is YOU who are blind if you're unable to see how far the Republican Party has swung.
 

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So when Obama said he only deserved one term if he didn't cut the deficit in half within four years, I guess he didn't mean it either?
He "didn't mean it" because he never said it.

He did make a "pledge" on February 23, 2009, "to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office," but said nothing about not seeking a second term if he failed.

Anyway, there is a pretty big difference between failing to do something that is outside of your power, like cutting the deficit in half, and failing to do something that is within your power, like declaring all of your charitable donations for a tax deduction. Romney did not fail: he deliberately chose to claim less than the full amount (for the time being; he can declare it later and get the deduction) so that he would not be proved a liar for saying that he never paid less than 13% in federal income tax.
 
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He "didn't mean it" because he never said it.

God, what a sharp stud :)

He NEVER said that but they repeat this ad nauseum on Faux News and in Right-Wing rags. They have made President OBAMA out to be an obscenely liberal caricature that simply does NOT exist.
Cutting through all the bullshit, everyone knows WHY this is done.
BILL & HILLARY CLINTON both are to the left of OBAMA and they were never faced with such vitriolic nonsense as the President has had to endure.
All the latest Racial dog whistles from the Republican party I find absolutely disgusting and frightening when there are white people who refuse to see what is blatantly being done. I come from a very conservative family and I know very well, especially here in the south, the level of racial animus there still is.
You know that is precisely what is going on when a man supports and endorses and even passes laws that the RIGHT heretofore have not only embraced but were the brain child of such legislation, and now they hail as Socialism or other such bullshit. President OBAMA is such a damn centrist he is nearly a Republican.
One would not think white people would be freaking out so damn bad in this day and age of tolerance yet they are.
I just sincerely hope that sane people of ALL COLORS can see what is going on and not succumb to their hatred by allowing someone so completely incompetent and greedy as a vulture capitalist to be elected President.

If Flopney had taken ALL the deductions he was entitled to his effective tax rate would have been 9%. This is why he filed as he did and also the reason he is not showing his previous tax returns prior to him running for President.
He was required to give the McCAIN campaign FULL TAX RETURNS going back 10 yrs when being considered for Vice-President, someone plz tell me why the fuck Americans are not worthy of the same consideration when we are being asked to entrust our country to him.



GNOTHI SEAUTON
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"If I don't have this done in three years, then this is going to be a one-term proposition." --Barack Obama in interview with Matt Lauer, 2 Feb. 2009

The snippet does not provide sufficient context to identify what the word "this" refers to. I did a Google search for a phrase and found dozens of pages from anti-Obama sources that quoted that one sentence, but not a single one of those that I looked at identified the referent of the word "this." It looked suspiciously as if these sources were taking an utterance of the president that contained a pronoun and supplying that pronoun with the meaning of their choice--shocking though it may be to suggest that the anti-Obama crowd would ever do such a thing :)rolleyes:).

One page did, however, supply a link to the transcript of the interview. And, hey, what do you know, surprise, surprise--it turns out that Obama was not talking about reducing the deficit.
MATT LAUER: The American people might worry that the bailout, you know, could be off course because if the money's going to people who simply are out of touch, it's not a confidence builder.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Right. Well, and that's why it's my job as president and Congress's job to make sure that there's some rules of the road that people are gonna abide by, and that we've got transparency and accountability.

[The discussion that follows is all about TARP and consequences for the banks. After it has continued for a while, this occurs:]

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Yeah, well — I — I don't wanna preempt an announcement next week. And there's a lot of technical aspects to it. And if I — say — that we're doing one thing. then the markets might interpret it differently from what it ends up being. But the basic principle that we're gonna have to see some of this debt written down, that the government is gonna have to support some banks, that others that are not — not viable, essentially that we're gonna have to — do something with those assets.

MATT LAUER: At some point will you say, "Wait a minute, we've spent this amount of money. We're not seeing the results. We've got to change course dramatically?"

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Look, I'm at the start of my administration. One nice thing about — the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I've got four years. And —

MATT LAUER: You're gonna know quickly how people feel —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: — and — and —

MATT LAUER: — about what —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: that's exactly right. And — and, you know, a year from now I think people — are gonna see that — we're starting to make some progress. But there's still gonna be some pain out there. If I don't have this done in three years, then there's gonna be a one-term proposition.

So the pronoun "this" refers to holding the big banks accountable for the money that has been lent to them. It has nothing whatever to do with cutting the deficit in half.
 
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So the pronoun "this" refers to holding the big banks accountable for the money that has been lent to them. It has nothing whatever to do with cutting the deficit in half.


While I appreciate the effort in Educating someone I fear banging your head against a wall would produce better results.

"There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see"


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So when Obama said he only deserved one term if he didn't cut the deficit in half within four years, I guess he didn't mean it either?

Here's the other example of Right Wing dishonesty... when they can't find a truthful narrative... then they make one up.
 

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So much for being held accountable huh?

Yeah, when are you going to admit, it was your Party that ruined the economy to begin with? Would you like to come clean, and admit it was your party who did? No... I suppose not. You're a hit and run poster... you post something outrageous and then ignore the facts when presented and move on to another ruinous topic, with more lie spewing. Never mind.... You can't even back up your accusations, with facts, except with Fixed News accounts. And we all know, how accurate those are.....ZERO:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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zero? atomic you give way to much credit. fixed newz is way below zero when it come to accuracy. but murdoch knows, the farther they run from accuracy the higher the ratings, and the higher the profits are.
 

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You mention Barack Obama asking the senate to work together for the sake of the country, and cite compromise and willingness to work together. Which is what we need. But the man is a hypocrite, he bullied his health care reform into existence without any compromise. Furthermore, his typical lawyer approach to things leaves the American people confused as to how the reform actually affects everyone. Is it a law? Who knows, we were all bamboozled into what appears to be yet another tax.
No compromise? Really?
Health Care Concessions Irking Liberals - CBS News
A few more (minor) concessions on healthcare reform by Obama - latimes.com
Obama embraces some GOP health care proposals - CNN
Gee, that took all of 30 seconds to find. Republican ideas were adopted left and right, the public option was removed, and medicine remained decentralized.

And no, it's not a tax just because ONE of the Supreme Court Justices declared it so. It's a legal penalty, something which the Senate is well within their rights to legislate. If that's what he needed to justify it to himself, then fine, but that doesn't change what it is.
You may try and call the opposition to the reform "obstructionist", when in fact it's just the other side fighting for what they believe. Not everyone agrees that health care reform needed to be addressed at the moment, and the choice to do so is purely political ideology.
Despite the fact that Republican ideas were adopted left and right, how many times did they filibuster? Honestly for sheer obstructionism by the numbers, I think this article pretty much says it all. The Republicans
Give us more viable options, because currently both parties are guilty of putting up entry barriers into the political arena.... If you're not a donkey or an elephant, you are irrelevant! .... and that is truly sad.
Political parties in the US have fallen before. Ever hear of the Whigs? I don't mind many of the GOP's ideas, but they are definitely falling to the wayside in practice. If they don't straighten up and start giving a shit about the country again soon, then they're probably going to find themselves ousted from power. I can easily see some of the more moderate Tea Partiers subsuming and rejuvenating the GOP.
 
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"If I don't have this done in three years, then this is going to be a one-term proposition." --Barack Obama in interview with Matt Lauer, 2 Feb. 2009

Even apart from what the "this" may refer to, there's another rather obvious point no one seems to have touched on.

Mostly likely, Obama's "one-term proposition" is a forecast, not a pledge: if he doesn't get "this" done (whatever it may be), he's likely to get his ass handed to him in the next election.

A very different thing from promising to step down.