Ron Paul did not write racist newsletters

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  1. houtx48

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    Who cares he is not going to get elected anyway........... Last thing we need is another loony Texas.
     
  2. sargon20

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    You know you're in trouble when the byline behind the obligatory bimbo blonde newscaster says 'balanced news' :rolleyes:
     
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    Ron Paul wasn't even born in the United States
     
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    loony texaN? please explain how he is loony?

    I asked this in COUNTLESS threads and have not had anyone explain this yet.
     
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    Dude's totally a Kenyan. lol.
     
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    not only did paul write them, they ran under his name. any one with some pride and brains would not let the racist crap go out under their name if they did not fully endorse it. HE IS ANOTHER LOONY TEXAN. we dont need him. we need BARACK OBAMA FOR FOUR MORE YEARS. SEND THE LOONY TEXAN HOME TO DANCE THE TEXAS TWO STEP AND CHASE ARMADILLOS.
     
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    It appears he did....

    ......people close to Paul’s operations said he was deeply involved in the company that produced the newsletters, Ron Paul & Associates, and closely monitored its operations, signing off on articles and speaking to staff members virtually every day.

    “It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product. . . . He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.

    Associates: Paul pursued strategy of publishing controversial newsletters
     
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    Thank you for posting this. It seems there are some whom refuse to believe he did publish these letters. If your name is published in the byline then you are the author, and if you didn't want your name associated with such literature then you should have refused to have it in the byline.
     
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    How substantive is the difference between him writing these articles, and him passively allowing his name to be above them for years? Not hugely different to me.
     
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    If he didn't write the newsletters, as he now claims, he committed mail fraud every time he accepted a subscription.
     
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    The mainstream media has done everything they can to ignore Ron Paul, and has occasionally shown outright hostility to him.

    If there was any credence at all to this newsletter thing, they would be hammering him with it, guaranteed. Notice how its faded from their radar of late?

    Even if it were true, he's still the only candidate that stands for peace and civil liberties. Pres. O-bomb-ya just signed the NDAA, authorizing indefinite military detention of US citizens, and signed the renewal of the (sic) patriot act, and also made war on Libya in violation of the war powers act. He's broken almost every campaign promise he made. At least Paul has taken a consistent stand for decades on every important issue.

    End the wars, end the empire. Ron Paul 2012!
     
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    Come on dude...if anyone disagrees with a leftist, they gotta be crazy, stupid, or racist. Get with it.
     
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    I'm sick of hearing of hearing how "the mainstream media is ignoring Ron Paul" has he been ahead in any poll? Has he won a primary? Nope.
     
  14. D_JuanAFock

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    It is much harder to win polls without any help from the media. People arent going to vote for you if they dont know anything about you. People are much less likely to vote for you if you are depicted in a negative light any time you are on the media. The fact that he has done so well with basically only internet campaigning is crazy.
     
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    Here's another article about how Ron Paul signed off on every article that appeared in his newsletter and how he preferred controversial material because it made him more money. So he might not be a racist, but he's happy to publish racist diatribes if it makes him money. Either way, it doesn't look good for him. I don't want a guy like that running the country.

    Ron Paul signed off on racist 1990s newsletters, associates say - The Washington Post

    "Ron Paul, well known as a physician, congressman and libertarian , has also been a businessman who pursued a marketing strategy that included publishing provocative, racially charged newsletters to make money and spread his ideas, said three people with direct knowledge of Paul’s businesses."

    "A person involved in Paul’s businesses, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid criticizing a former employer, said Paul and his associates decided in the late 1980s to try to increase sales by making the newsletters more provocative. They discussed adding controversial material, including racial statements, to help the business, the person said.

    “It was playing on a growing racial tension, economic tension, fear of government,’’ said the person, who supports Paul’s economic policies but is not backing him for president. “I’m not saying Ron believed this stuff. It was good copy. Ron Paul is a shrewd businessman.’’

    The articles included racial, anti-Semitic and anti-gay content. They claimed, for example, that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. “seduced underage girls and boys’’; they ridiculed black activists by suggesting that New York be named “Zooville” or “Lazyopolis”; and they said the 1992 Los Angeles riots ended “when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.’’ The June 1990 edition of the Ron Paul Political Report included the statement: “Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.”

    It is unclear precisely how much money Paul made from his newsletters, but during the years he was publishing them, he reduced his debts and substantially increased his net worth, according to his congressional and presidential disclosure reports.

    In 1984, he reported debt of up to $765,000, most of which was gone by 1995, when he reported a net worth of up to $3.3 million. Last year, he reported a net worth of up to $5.2 million.

    The newsletters bore his name in large print and featured articles on topics ranging from investment advice to political commentary. Frequently written in first person, they contained personalized notes, such as holiday greetings from Paul and his wife, Carol."

    There's also a twitter feed of quotes from the newsletters here:
    https://twitter.com/rp_newsletter

    Here are scans from the newsletter where the quotes were taken from:
    http://rpnewsletter.wordpress.com/
     
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  16. D_JuanAFock

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    While interesting, I dont get why it is unclear how much he made from the newsletters and whether the alleged change actually impacted sales? If it made him more than $1000 he would have to report it as an asset. I also highly doubt it was able to give him even close to hundreds of thousands of dollars. What kind of newsletter would sell that much, and if it did sell that much then how come there are so few legit copies available?
     
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    If it was his only source of income, then it would be clear, but it wasn't, so without his itemized income tax returns, one can only speculate how much of his income came from the newsletters.

    In other words, if my net worth increased by $100k and I have two sources of income, I could have made anywhere from $1-$99,999 from one of those income sources.

    "In 1984, he reported debt of up to $765,000, most of which was gone by 1995, when he reported a net worth of up to $3.3 million. Last year, he reported a net worth of up to $5.2 million."
     
  18. D_JuanAFock

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    http://pfds.opensecrets.org/N00005906_2010_pres.pdf
    Not 100% itemized, but as I said... if he made money off of it, he has to report it when running for president.
     
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    How is that relevant to how much money he made from the newsletter at the time? I believe that you misunderstood the article because your reply doesn't make sense.
     
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