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So now the CIA says with confidence that the Russians interfered in the USA election with the express purpose of helping Trump to win. If it is found that there was ANY connection with Trump or his campaign PRIOR to the election let the games begin.(Just look up Paul Manafort and Carter Page) This has been a crazy election year of unprecedented events. I see it has been has tweeted that the CIA report should be required reading to all Electors prior to their vote on 12/19 and I agree. The Obama administration will make sure all information regarding Russia and our election will be made public prior to 1/20 so Trump cannot keep it hidden.
-This election year is not normal.
-who knows what will happen next
-I'm making popcorn

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"I refute the findings of the United States Central Intelligence Agency and believe and support the findings and statements of Russia, Putin, and its intelligence agencies (FSB and SVR)."

How did that feel? Does that feel good to you? Make you feel more patriotic? More American? This is fucked up.
 
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Putin tried to elect Trump & Trump's top choice for Secretary of State is Putin's pal Rex Tillerson.
In 2011, on behalf of ExxonMobil, Tillerson signed an agreement with Russia for drilling in the Arctic that could be valued up to $300 billion.[12] The agreement has not able to be carried out due to sanctions enacted against Russia.

In 2013, Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by Vladimir Putin.
 
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It won't matter that Russia interfered/tampered with and influenced the election:
1.) Every intelligence apparatus operates to further state interests--that's in its charter, and the USA's agencies have done plenty of it. BAU, SOP.
2.) In the age of Trump, truth has no value: whatever Trump says and is advanced by his agitprop spokespersons and swallowed by his electorate is what IS. Just ask Gen. Flynn about Pizzagate...
 
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It won't matter that Russia interfered/tampered with and influenced the election:
1.) Every intelligence apparatus operates to further state interests--that's in its charter, and the USA's agencies have done plenty of it. BAU, SOP.
2.) In the age of Trump, truth has no value: whatever Trump says and is advanced by his agitprop spokespersons and swallowed by his electorate is what IS. Just ask Gen. Flynn about Pizzagate...
The issue is was there a connection between Russia and the Trump Campaign.
 

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The issue is was there a connection between Russia and the Trump Campaign.

Do you doubt that those who formed the connection and may have been involved in collusion will not do everything possible to prevent the discovery of it, if they haven't already done so? Should there be such a discovery, all Russia and the Trump Campaign will do is deny it. For Trump's Americans, apparently, that may be enough.
 

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Do you doubt that those who formed the connection and may have been involved in collusion will not do everything possible to prevent the discovery of it, if they haven't already done so? Should there be such a discovery, all Russia and the Trump Campaign will do is deny it. For Trump's Americans, apparently, that may be enough.
Trump VOTERS make up only 21% of the Nation. Remember, if a connection is found before 12/19(EC vote) or 1/20, our President is still Barack Obama with the full force of the Executive Branch behind him. It won't matter if Trump denies it. That would not matter yet. President Obama would believe it. Democrats would believe it. The few sane Republicans(The McCain, Graham,Collins wing) would believe it. Colluding with a hostile foreign government during an election is treason.
 

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Trump VOTERS make up only 21% of the Nation. Remember, if a connection is found before 12/19(EC vote) or 1/20, our President is still Barack Obama with the full force of the Executive Branch behind him. It won't matter if Trump denies it. That would not matter yet. President Obama would believe it. Democrats would believe it. The few sane Republicans(The McCain, Graham,Collins wing) would believe it. Colluding with a hostile foreign government during an election is treason.

I hope you are right.
 
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Trump VOTERS make up only 21% of the Nation. Remember, if a connection is found before 12/19(EC vote) or 1/20, our President is still Barack Obama with the full force of the Executive Branch behind him. It won't matter if Trump denies it. That would not matter yet. President Obama would believe it. Democrats would believe it. The few sane Republicans(The McCain, Graham,Collins wing) would believe it. Colluding with a hostile foreign government during an election is treason.
will it lead to trump... his henchmen (probably)....
 

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Trump VOTERS make up only 21% of the Nation. Remember, if a connection is found before 12/19(EC vote) or 1/20, our President is still Barack Obama with the full force of the Executive Branch behind him. It won't matter if Trump denies it. That would not matter yet. President Obama would believe it. Democrats would believe it. The few sane Republicans(The McCain, Graham,Collins wing) would believe it. Colluding with a hostile foreign government during an election is treason.

Well IMO it was treason enough to stand there before the American people as a presidential candidate and exhort a foreign government, and an adversary at that, to HACK American servers.

Mitch McConnell prevented stronger action against Russian election meddling.
Harry Reid says FBI Chief Comey hid information on Russian hacking, should resign.
 

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It's all so unbelievable. I can't understand how Republicans can not see they are used by a foreign country and we are being taken over from within. Treason
That's because it's UNbelievable..
There are people in power in this country who are stuck up on the Cold War and are itching and quivering to get into a real war with Russia.,Fuck this proxy war bullshit
 
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1.) Every intelligence apparatus operates to further state interests--that's in its charter, and the USA's agencies have done plenty of it. BAU, SOP.

But that doesn't mean we have to let them do it to us, though.

It's entirely FUBAR.

People were weepy about what Trump's win might mean in terms of "progressive social justice" issues. Bathroom-of-choice rights are chicken feed compared to the existential threats that he's drawing us into.
 
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But that doesn't mean we have to let them do it to us, though.

It's entirely FUBAR.

People were weepy about what Trump's win might mean in terms of "progressive social justice" issues. Bathroom-of-choice rights are chicken feed compared to the existential threats that he's drawing us into.
Whether or not "the deep state" really exist, there seems to be a battle of the minds inside the Intelligence apparatus..between the Hillarybots and the rest.
 
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