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Military units do not need to use civilian law enforcement weapons instructors, they have no shortage of small arms instructors and range masters to provide any required training, they MIGHT arrange to use a local range but that is as close as it gets..

Maybe repeat maybe SOME individual members "on there own time" attended some COI you "work in conjunction with" but that is hardly "training the military"

I took flight training way back when but the CFI's at the FBO I took it at could hardly claim "they were training military pilots because I was in the military and they trained me.and I became a pilot.

When I said "loaded" I meant just exactly that, a round in the chamber, ask anyone who ever guarded a B-52 on Alpha strike alert back in the day.

I mention PPP because it is the training in the use of DEADLY FORCE at as serious of a level as it gets. Ask any of those guys on the other sides of those signs at area 51

Being assigned to the base security force at 2 different bases and getting the training required for that involved "police tactics" and to a degree SWAT tactics because environments of "heighten tensions" IE "crowd control" "unrest' "riots" other "disturbances" was when we would be possibly "deployed or activated" so that was part of it.
I know what you are saying. Truly.

And the military level of UOF training is a joke when it comes to actual applied tactics. I know what levels of ROE they have. Guarding anything and ROE for a breach of perimeter has squat to do with actual training.

All these “high threat” guard positions you speak of.........
*How often did they (or you) make felony arrests?
*How often did they (or you) serve felony warrants?
*How often did they (or you) have to fight combative suspects?
*How often did they (or you) have to do any of these *alone* with backup 20-60 minutes away?
*How often did they (or you) engage in foot pursuits with suspects who may or may not have been violent?
*How often did they (or you) have to investigate anything?
*How often did they (or you) have to process a crime scene?

Guarding things with specific high threat orders is still standing a (most usually) uneventful post.
 

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Reread your posts. You have never failed to make excuses for officers accused of excessive violence towards blacks ( I would include Max in that but his silence on this and other issues tells me where he stands). If your story about your supposed abuse was true then you'd be more understanding about other potential abuses instead of trying to excuse them therefor I call your tale bullshit.

Everyone with 20/20 vision and the ability to read has seen you repeat ad nauseam that your opinion carries more weight because you have supposedly experienced what others haven't. When called on your bullshit you want to pretend that it's now the number that matters. You are one person. Forgive me if I take the word and experiences of more than 20 people cops over yours.
Forgive me if I take your zero personal experience as Monday morning quarterbacking bullshit.

If you’d like to prove me wrong, attend (and graduate) a police academy, work the streets, and get back to me.

I’ll glad wait.
 

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Wow! You must really impress the other kids when you all play Call of Duty.
1) I don’t play video games.
2) I am happy to state my experience, even if it doesn’t meet your expectations. I am neither embarrassed nor ashamed of the things I have and have not done.
 

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It's fun to see the ignorant wander in the dark whilst professing knowledge. If only they could see how stupid they look.

The rest of us appreciate your service to, and sacrifices for our country.
I thoroughly enjoy what I do.

I only state what I have done to maybe help others understand my point of view, but I’m always attacked and belittled by some. It’s nothing new. I don’t take personal insults to heart when they come from those with no actual experience.

C’est la vie.
 
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Here is my biggest bone of contention with you.

You always come across as this high and mighty my "knowledge/training/experience is so much great and so much superior to yours"

you make judgements about military training that you have NEVER ATTENDED saying it is "a joke" derided it as not "actual training" and dismiss experience gained in duties you have NEVER PERFORMED.

All based on what you observe from some military members who on their own time come a take courses you have something to do with.

Do you KNOW military training they had?

How much of it they had ?

What there duties were?

How long they have been doing it ?

No I have never arrested anyone, but plenty of beat cops go years without ever doing that either.

Plenty of beat cops never "serve felony warrants" or "investigate anything" or "process crime scenes" most halfway decent size police forces have 'warrant squads" and detectives squads for that specific crime, Homicide, Narcotics, SVU etc etc and CSI/forensics officers/technicians for just those purposes and they all would be quick to tell an over zealous beat cops to "stay in his lane" so to speak , but somehow some way you have been allowed to do it all and actually have done it all.

Are they all some kind inferior being too ?

No I have never had to shoot anyone but I got plenty of training about when I would be allowed to and it what situation warranted it and when I was NOT allowed to do it or not in that situation.

No I have never actually had to "take someone into custody" but I learned how to do it.

Here is what I also learned, that I was not authorized to empty a mag and fill someone full of more holes than golf course, anyone really, shooting them until they are DEAD just because "I was afraid for my life" and know I could make up some bullshit story and as long as I did in fact kill the guy and luck out and not have it get video's and probably even it does get video'd get no more than slap on the wrist and/or a year or more on "paid administrative leave" and then MAYBE get fired if in the mean time I have not "resigned" leaving me free to apply somewhere else and claim I was "never fired"
 
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I guess that makes you the town drunk, Otis.
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Meh. I have no idea where you got any indication supporting my drinking habits, or that I am the town drunk. You, on the other hand, have proved through your simple, uncomplicated, juvenile posts that you are, well, a Goober.
 

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Meh. I have no idea where you got any indication supporting my drinking habits, or that I am the town drunk. You, on the other hand, have proved through your simple, uncomplicated, juvenile posts that you are, well, a Goober.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt that all of the stupid or racist things you've espoused you did so because you were drunk. My bad. Stupid and inbred it is.
 

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Meh. I have no idea where you got any indication supporting my drinking habits, or that I am the town drunk. You, on the other hand, have proved through your simple, uncomplicated, juvenile posts that you are, well, a Goober.

I'd better stake my claim pretty quick, or I'll end up stuck being Aunt Bea. o_O
 
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I gave you the benefit of the doubt that all of the stupid or racist things you've espoused you did so because you were drunk. My bad. Stupid and inbred it is.

Name calling and insults are a poor substitute for logical argument, but I suppose if that's all you've got...

Stupid and inbred. How witty of you. You feel better now?

Seriously, maybe more persuasion and less name-calling (from all) would be better here?
 
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His line of -

"You know why? If she did that - because Putin and the group said, 'You know, this Trump is killing us. Why don't you say you're involved with government so that we can go and make their life in the United States even more chaotic?"

is a hypothetical statement without any actual knowledge of "Putin & the group". He is talking out of his ass as usual.

His statement of the Democrats colluding with "The Russians" to dig up dirt on him is actually quite true. Steele got his "dossier" from Russian sources whose allegiances are undisclosed and unknown... presumably one if not many have ties close to the Russian government, military or intelligence services... the fact that a former Mi6/FBI agent met with Russian agents to gather dirt on Trump is not in dispute in the slightest. In one of the current favorite phrases of the global deep state, "It's highly likely" that the Clinton campaign AND FBI colluded with Russian intelligence agents to dig up dirt on Trump in an attempt to influence the outcome of the election. Jeff Sessions is part of the "deep state", "permanent state"... whatever you wanna call it and wont lift a finger to prosecute or even file one charge... his assistant Rosenstein is equally part of the deep state... The Justice Department won't push back against this in any way shape or form. Trump is 100% on his own.

Proving Trump did the same to Hillary has been a keystone caper... and it's still a "work in progress" despite millions and millions being spent and more resources, agents and prosecutors devoted to this case than any criminal case currently ongoing in the United States.

Trust me, if there was any "there" there... Mueller would have indicted Natalia a long time ago. If this woman is guilty at all of what is being alleged at her, she is an enemy of the state, an incredibly valuable foreign intelligence agent and an international criminal and there is no way on earth that the Mueller and Co. would allow her to remain a free woman.

ALL of this would be known to Mueller... ALL of this would be known to the NSA, CIA and FBI... it wouldn't take a fucking "interview" with a reporter to unearth this bombshell of a revelation. It's just more of the "press" playing cute with this collusion narrative.

In other words doing what RussiaGate has been doing the entire time... pissing down our legs and telling us its raining.