Russia and trump

[Chrysippus]

Where do begin with Obama/Hillarys foreign policy... begin with the " Russian Reset " or Benghazi or maybe with The Junior Varsity comment letting China build there own Naval base.. or maybe The Syrian red line

What point exactly are you trying to make?

 

[Chrysippus]

Or maybe the billion dollar cash deal to the Iranians in the middle of the night

Cold french fries...
How is this related to the current Russia and Trump discussion?

 

[Industrialsize]

Or maybe the billion dollar cash deal to the Iranians in the middle of the night

Ya gotta keep up man, that's been debunked like, forever:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/03/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/

 

[Industrialsize]

Where do begin with Obama/Hillarys foreign policy... begin with the " Russian Reset " or Benghazi or maybe with The Junior Varsity comment letting China build there own Naval base.. or maybe The Syrian red line

Please edit your posts for understanding prior to hitting the Post Reply button

 

[Bigbailey12]

Putin is a KGB thug but he ran circles around OBama, Kerry and Clinton

 

[marinera]

Ukraine seen as a growing 'haven for hackers'
http://www.csoonline.com/article/21...ne-seen-as-a-growing--haven-for-hackers-.html

 

[Industrialsize]

Putin is a KGB thug but he ran circles around OBama, Kerry and Clinton

But now he has recruited Trump as a useful fool. Trump is playing his role to perfection. Putin must have some компромат (kompromat) on him.

 

[Bigbailey12]

But now he has recruited Trump as a useful fool. Trump is playing his role to perfection.

What is the end goal?

 

[Industrialsize]

What is the end goal?

Duh, destabilization of the West, reconstitute the Soviet Union.

 

[Bigbailey12]

I don't like allot of things Trump says or Tweets but watching the foreign policy the last eight years was hard to take

 

[Bigbailey12]

Duh, destabilization of the West, reconstitute the Soviet Union.

Democrats are right in that mix..

 

[Bigbailey12]

Duh

 

[Industrialsize]

Democrats are right in that mix..

Please explain to me how Democrats are trying to destabilize the West and how they are trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union. (I won't hold my breath, you seem to only have enough energy to post one sentence/word at a time.)

 

[Bigbailey12]

The unmasking of American citizens for one reason. Classified leaks all over the place. Private telephone calls by Trump being leaked. It's Putinesq to do things like that.. Discredit your enemy.

 

[Bigbailey12]

When you have Democrats using the whole Russia thing to say that's not my President..

 

[b.c.]

Educate yourself about that supposed Uranium deal. It has been widely debunked and is only brought up as a conservative talking point.

And why does everyone bring it back to the Clintons? Hilary lost. This isn't a case of sour grapes, we're not saying Trump shouldn't be president he won. What were saying is that there is a much bigger issue at play here - a foreign power successfully influencing an election through nefarious means.

Take all the known names and countries out of this and look at the issue as taking place in some fictional land with fictional countries and fictional players. If this all happened with people not named Trump and Hilary I think everyone would be able to see it for the problem it is. Instead everyone goes all partisan and loses sight of this.

It's also indicative of the hypocrisy and double standards of them. Even while Trump and his cronies cut all kinds of deals that make them even richer, and promote fkng Ivanka merchandise from the steps of the White House, these ---------- are going on about the Clintons and how they were broke when they left the White House.

Imo, their leaving the White House "broke" and leaving the country in a fkn SURPLUS was a FAR cry better than leaving rich and the country, BROKE.

Truth is, all of this boils down to the double standard that has been and has ALWAYS been applied to Hillary, AS A WOMAN.

When Trump stood on that debate stage and called Hillary "a nasty woman" that was "rich fat b--------d" code for, "You, as a woman, don't have the right to be NEARLY as nasty as ME."

Hence a woman who knows what she's talking about, who's in their face, who runs in the same circles yet not doing NEARLY the same kind or amount of conniving, manipulating shit that "fat b------------ds" get away with doing, on a DAILY basis, is hated and despised by those who can't handle that.

THAT'S why she's vilified and that's why Republicans have spent their entire political careers trying to discredit this woman and also why conservatives and those of their ilk LAP IT UP.

It's also why, instead of being critical of Americans who turned out in record numbers to vote for and ENDORSE a political platform of hate, divisiveness, racism, and demagoguery, they'd rather blame Hillary.

 

[Bigbailey12]

Please explain to me how Democrats are trying to destabilize the West and how they are trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union. (I won't hold my breath, you seem to only have enough energy to post one sentence/word at a time.)

At work
And bored

 

[Bigbailey12]

It's also indicative of the hypocrisy and double standards of them. Even while Trump and his cronies cut all kinds of deals that make them even richer, and promote fkng Ivanka merchandise from the steps of the White House, these ---------- are going on about the Clintons and how they were broke when they left the White House.

Imo, their leaving the White House "broke" and leaving the country in a fkn SURPLUS was a FAR cry better than leaving rich and the country, BROKE.

Truth is, all of this boils down to the double standard that has been and has ALWAYS been applied to Hillary, AS A WOMAN.

When Trump stood on that debate stage and called Hillary "a nasty woman" that was "rich fat b--------d" code for, "You, as a woman, don't have the right to be NEARLY as nasty as ME. Hence a woman who knows what she's talking about, who's in their face, who runs in the same circles yet not doing NEARLY the same kind or amount of conniving, manipulating shit that "fat b------------ds" get away with doing, on a DAILY basis, is hated and despised by those who can't handle that.

THAT'S why she's vilified and that's why Republicans have spent their entire political careers trying to discredit this woman and also why conservatives and those of their ilk LAP IT UP.

It's also why, instead of being critical of Americans who turned out in record numbers to vote for and ENDORSE a political platform of hate, divisiveness, racism, and demagoguery, they'd rather blame Hillary.

Was not that the debate where CNN's Employee was giving Hillary the answers to the questions she was going to get? Just think about that one for a minute. You hear months later the Donna B gave Hillary the questions in advance. Even then the press didn't acknowledge the ecthical part of that equation from the Clinton side. The press is not out to report the news they are actively trying to destroy Trump.

 

[Bigbailey12]

Even the famous " grab her Pussy " tape was held until late in the campaign to try and swing the election

 

[tripod]

But now he has recruited Trump as a useful fool. Trump is playing his role to perfection. Putin must have some компромат (kompromat) on him.

This is your fantasy that you have bought into. Christopher Steele's "dossier" is a fake and there isn't a SHRED of evidence that alludes to it being real in any way shape or form.

The fact that you think that the CIA doesn't have compromising details on Trump but the FSB somehow does... just defies logic. The CIA has a budget that absolutely dwarfs the budget of the FSB... not only that reality, but the NSA intercepts ALL communications... the FSB doesn't have a spying program that intercepts 100% of the communications of the world and stores them for future use... the FSB doesn't fly drones all over the world like the CIA does... the CIA is a massively funded behemoth compared to the rather modestly funded FSB.

The hilarious notion that Russia somehow specializes in using compromising material on political opponents and the other countries of the world would never do such a thing is laughable... I've gone through the wiki page on it and there is NOT A LOT of evidence to support this assertion that "kompromat" is a widespread clandestine political activity... lots of examples of people alleging that there is compromising material or alleging that they have somehow been a victim of said compromising material... spurious bullshit and 99% of the information about "kompromat" doesn't go back to the cold war like anyone with a right mind would expect (since "kompromat" is being billed as widely used by the Soviet Union)... but goes back 100% to Christopher Steele and his bullshit fake ass "dossier".

The allegations require leaps of faith in order to be plausible... there are no direct lines of evidence to follow, only a cadre of specious allegations.

Duh, destabilization of the West, reconstitute the Soviet Union.

You don't have an ounce of evidence that Russia wants to re-constitute the Soviet Union... and you don't have an ounce of evidence of Russia's destabilization of the West. The West was just fine the last time I looked... it hasn't been destabilized in any respects.

When Trump starts a war for regime change that leads to the deaths of hundreds of thousands at the hands of Wahhabi terrorists we armed, trained and funded... and that war for regime change leads to the displacement of dozens of millions... let me know.

Until then, you have no argument as to Russia's destabilization of the "West". Libya was Obama/Hillary's job... Ukraine was destabilized by Victoria Nuland/Obama/Hillary... the Crimean annexation was a reaction to the previously mentioned overthrow of the democratically elected leader of Ukraine... the Donbass region erupted because of a newly anti-Russian government in Kiev that doesn't allow direct Federal representation of their region... Syria is Obama/Hillary's doing...

Russia is killing terrorists as fast as the US can manufacture them and that is PISSING off the US something awful. Syria was SUPPOSED TO FALL TO THE CALIPHATE... and Russia prevented that... which is making the US livid with anger.

Sorry you couldn't turn Syria into Libya... maybe next time... oh that's right... THE U.S. WILL NEVER STOP training, funding and arming terrorists until Syria is a smoldering briquette.

Why don't you educate yourself on the U.S.A's involvement in the destabilization of the globe. Russia hasn't done even a fraction of the regime change that the U.S. has forced on the world at the end of a bayonet, molotov cocktail or an M-16...

Nooooo you'd rather lie about Russia than learn the truth of your very own cuntry... You don't WANT the truth... you'd rather have the lies. Which is disgusting.

U.S. Involvement in Regime Change