Safe Sex Strategy with NO CONDOMS

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

How safe do you think is this Strategy to protect against HIV.

It's in a purely heterosexual context, the partner is female.

- Ask every sex partner when they had fever the last time. If any longer fever period in the last 3 months be careful since it could indicate an Acute HIV Infection.

- Ask how often condoms were used in the recent time.

- Test every partner with a Home Test Rapid Test (from idiagnosticsco.com). It's a blood based test, results in 15 minutes, 99% accuracy and approved by WHO/Unicef but not FDA.

- Most people develop detectable antibodies after 4 weeks
- Most people have Acute HIV Infection 2-4 weeks after infection, for an average of 28 days.

So if she had fever/flu like symptoms recently or tests positive stay away.

Otherwise it should be safe to have ORAL and VAGINAL sex without condom. NO ANAL.

Given all the tests above we can assume she is HIV negative. Should she be HIV positive the risk for infection is actually very low, that is 0.5 / 10.000 or 5 / 10.000 per exposure. So that's less than 0.1% per sex act - should the test not work or something.

Condoms are 85% effective. How effective is my strategy?

What do you think?

 

[D_Jared Padalicki]

I think my partner nor do I wouldn't want to fuck anymore afer so many tests.

 

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

I think my partner nor do I wouldn't want to fuck anymore afer so many tests.

Of course under such preconditions the mood would be gone.

However, I do this more discretely.

You can harmlessly ask a person when she had fever the last time, and then interrogate further.

On the first date I would give her oral or manual orgasms, but refrain from actual sex unless she's so horny that she jumps on my cock.

After I ensured she is sufficiently satisfied (preferably without actual sex) she's far more inclined to do a HIV test.

Sometimes it happens that the girl is so aroused that she literally jumps on my cock. Should we have had sex and she was actually positive the chance of HIV infection from vaginal intercourse is still < 0.1%. If you find out she's positive you could still take PEP.

I do the rapid test with ALL of my partners. No exceptions. Or strict condom usage.

I usually have mini relationships that last from a few days to a month where I stay with the same person. Then I go somewhere else.

I think that's much safer than condom usage (85% protection) with untested partners.

 

[D_Cleon W Ballbreath IV]

There are many things besides HIV that you might not want to catch.

 

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

There are many things besides HIV that you might not want to catch.

Yes, but almost all of them are curable. And if you catch something harmless (like crabs) it should be seen as a warning flag.

HIV is the big problem. All other STDs are worth the risk.

 

[Fredro]

All other STDs are worth the risk.

Oh no, he did not just say that, did he?

 

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

Oh no, he did not just say that, did he?

oh the drama ...

 

[Fredro]

So, let me get this straight - Chlamydia - worth a piece of ass. Gonorrhea - worth a piece of ass. Hepatitis A,B,C, etc. - worth a piece of ass. Genital warts - worth a piece of ass. Herpes - worth a piece of ass. Syphilis - worth a piece of ass.

Wow - I must be so out of touch with things.

LOL - I can see you talking to your doctor:

Doctor - "How did you get syphilis?"
You - "Don't know but it was worth it!"

 

[Fredro]

oh, and BTW - A big ole itchy case of crabs - Worth it too?

 

[ScorpioSlut]

I agree with Kotchanski on this one. That system is totally flawed. And no STD is "worth it". If any man asked me to follow that system I would laugh the entire time I was kicking his ass to the curb.

 

[SEXXXX]

why's people make such a big deal out of condoms? it's worth it, 85% effective is better than 0%

 

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

So far everybody has agreed to it.

I have sex only after the women has had at least one orgasm. So they know they get more out of it than just a Wam. Bam. Thanks Ma'am.

I test myself regularly, every month. I re-test my partners every month.
I don't explain my system to my partners. If they want to stay with me they get tested or they can go. If we had sex they get tested either way.

This is the same strategy used in the porn industry, and the only HIV infections I am aware of were from double anal penetrations with internal ejaculations -- could there be anything more riskier?

I've had only one STD so far: Gonorrhea. And it raised a lot of red flags about that particular female. I refrained from unprotected sex for a long time unless I could be sure she is HIV negative.

I am not doing unprotected ANAL. Only ORAL and VAGINAL bareback.

Almost all people would have unprotected ORAL sex with somebody of unknown status (or when was the last time you used a dental dam?).
VAGINAL sex is not much more riskier.

 

[gdesguy]

Sex without a condom is generally a BAD idea unless both you and your partner have been monogamous for 3 months and have both been tested. I don't know how bad it is for straight men, but unprotected sex (anal sex especially) for gay men is just a terrible idea. One of my very good friends (who was always VERY safe) had a condom break ONCE, and now he is HIV positive.
Just wear the condom, its worth it.

 

[Honey123]

You silly man, there is only one way to prevent all risk of infection during sex - have sex alone or don't have sex. Abstinence is not necessarily a bad thing. Sex within a monogamous relationship is also 100% safe - as long as both parties are complete faithful to each other.

 

[ScorpioSlut]

Just wear the condom, its worth it.

You can say that again. Can you imagine how expensive his lil system is??? Not to mention the trouble you have to go to. I'm pretty sure a condom is still the safest, most effective and most economical way to provide yourself and your partner with a safe sexual experience.

 

[Fredro]

To be honest - It sounds to me like the guy has control issues and he puts his sexual partners through all the "testing" to make himself feel more in control of the situation.

 

[ScorpioSlut]

To be honest - It sounds to me like the guy has control issues and he puts his sexual partners through all the "testing" to make himself feel more in control of the situation.

I'd have to agree. I'd not be surprised to hear about him injecting his potential partners with vaccines/antibiotics/etc. for all of those diseases just to ensure he didn't get it. Yes I know not all of them have them....but he's probably waiting on the edge of his seat for their release.

 

[D_Renyson_Ripbottom]

Sex without a condom is generally a BAD idea unless both you and your partner have been monogamous for 3 months and have both been tested. I don't know how bad it is for straight men, but unprotected sex (anal sex especially) for gay men is just a terrible idea. One of my very good friends (who was always VERY safe) had a condom break ONCE, and now he is HIV positive.
Just wear the condom, its worth it.

So what you're saying is that you can catch HIV also if you use a condom. So you are only getting 10% of feeling of real sex and then you die anyways from AIDS.

Under that situatation it would make only sense to test all your partners - even if you use condoms.

If the partner
- tests HIV negative
- had no signs of an Acute HIV infection (fever, rash, ...) in last 3 months
then the risk of an HIV infection is non-existent.

You can't get HIV from a person who doesn't have it.

No need to use condoms then ...

 

[strutter2]

Cowboyrex - I really can't believe your ignorance and stupidity. Well you deserve whatever but I feel very sorry for your partners. You seem to think that HIV is only caught via anal sex - wrong, you also seem blissfully unaware that your body usually takes between 3-6 months to actually show the HIV antibodies - therefore your little home test kit can only be accurate if the person you are with last had sex 3-6 months ago. What if she had sex a week ago, contracted HIV? You going to dive in their with your dick and catch it too! Hilarious - I really cannot believe such ridiculous levels of ignorance still exist in the world today.
Well Cowboy - you keep your pretty little head in the sand and see what you manage to catch -oh and then there's HEp B and C - C incurable and eventually fatal, and there's HPV - help yourself to a dose of penile cancer (what will you do when your penis has to be removed?), bit of Herpes (incurable), you've already had gonorrhea, and probably still have Clamydia (you might happily have been made infertile - god help any child of yours being brought up in such amazing ignorance - won't have a chance).

Condoms are nearly 100% effective if used properly - i.e. you use the right size, you put it on properly, you use lube, you change it after 30 minutes, and you take it off properly.
God I'd want a body condom with you - an extra strong one at that.

 

[strutter2]

COwboyrex - you foolishness is astounding - not everybody who contracts HIV will experience flu like symptoms!