Safe Sex Strategy with NO CONDOMS
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The best strategy to avoid all STD's is use of the most sexual organ you have and that is your brain. Common sense avoids all the problems and all the hassles. I am 56-years-old and when I was in my total whoring stages of life I am now almost ashamed to state that I was doing as many as 5 people per night on weekends.
I had the advantage of coming from a Medical family and my Stepfather was an MD. I read ALL of his medical journals and maybe for that reason I knew of "gay cancer" and all the other list of names before we arived at the common abbreviation of HIV.
The late 1970's were fun, but, at that time the main dangers were HIV, Mononeucleosis, Herpes, Crabs and Scabies. Now we have a vast difference. We have learned that the most virulent and dangerous things are several varieties of Hepatitis which are totally unresponsive to drug treatment. These are every bit as fatal as HIV and the death is far worse as the liver fails.
Now we have discovered that HIV is easily preventable as many mixed couples go on for decades by using common sense.
Medical science has also proven some very strange things. There are men who are born with a genetic defect which gives them an additional layer of coating on the outside of their cellular structure. These men will not contract the disease because the HIV virus cannot penetrate the cell structure. The virus is for a time active in the blood of these people until it very gradually dies as it cannot invade and reproduce in the manner it needs. Because of this there will be no antibody response. This is what the home tests and Eliza test look for. It does not mean however that under the right circumstances that these individuals could not be contageous. Not all people at sero-conversion have the fevers or flu-like illness that is supposedly an established marker. What would appear as a symptom such as low grade fever is normal in some people. I do not run 98.6 myself and never have. I run about 98.2 in the early morning and about 99.4 at night. I have had this variance since I was a child and it is normal for me.
None of the criteria expressed here are 100% indicators of HIV infection. I have because of my work and because of the time I did the most buried 52 people and attended the peak of those funerals between 1986 and 1999. Of those 52 people about a dozen of them all had HIV interviews to virtually guarantee that they would not become infected. They lost..... HIV is a retrovirus that does not act the same in all that it infects.
There are averages, what happens on an average, but an average is definitely no gurantee of anyting.
On average GM stock was worth an incredible amount of money two years ago. Look at GM, Chrysler Group, AIG and BofA stock right now. Several years ago averages would have classified all of the above as a great investment.
Lose your money or lose your life, accepting anything other than common sense protection is not the greatest decision.
I had the advantage of coming from a Medical family and my Stepfather was an MD. I read ALL of his medical journals and maybe for that reason I knew of "gay cancer" and all the other list of names before we arived at the common abbreviation of HIV.
The late 1970's were fun, but, at that time the main dangers were HIV, Mononeucleosis, Herpes, Crabs and Scabies. Now we have a vast difference. We have learned that the most virulent and dangerous things are several varieties of Hepatitis which are totally unresponsive to drug treatment. These are every bit as fatal as HIV and the death is far worse as the liver fails.
Now we have discovered that HIV is easily preventable as many mixed couples go on for decades by using common sense.
Medical science has also proven some very strange things. There are men who are born with a genetic defect which gives them an additional layer of coating on the outside of their cellular structure. These men will not contract the disease because the HIV virus cannot penetrate the cell structure. The virus is for a time active in the blood of these people until it very gradually dies as it cannot invade and reproduce in the manner it needs. Because of this there will be no antibody response. This is what the home tests and Eliza test look for. It does not mean however that under the right circumstances that these individuals could not be contageous. Not all people at sero-conversion have the fevers or flu-like illness that is supposedly an established marker. What would appear as a symptom such as low grade fever is normal in some people. I do not run 98.6 myself and never have. I run about 98.2 in the early morning and about 99.4 at night. I have had this variance since I was a child and it is normal for me.
None of the criteria expressed here are 100% indicators of HIV infection. I have because of my work and because of the time I did the most buried 52 people and attended the peak of those funerals between 1986 and 1999. Of those 52 people about a dozen of them all had HIV interviews to virtually guarantee that they would not become infected. They lost..... HIV is a retrovirus that does not act the same in all that it infects.
There are averages, what happens on an average, but an average is definitely no gurantee of anyting.
On average GM stock was worth an incredible amount of money two years ago. Look at GM, Chrysler Group, AIG and BofA stock right now. Several years ago averages would have classified all of the above as a great investment.
Lose your money or lose your life, accepting anything other than common sense protection is not the greatest decision.
I know what you're talking about and it's very disturbing. Also I know lots of women who think that it's 100% safe to swallow any guy even a total stranger.
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I think he did... Let's see if he still says that after they're stuck the inverted umbrella down his japs eye and given it a good scraping out!
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I agree with CowboyRex , I think the chance of the test failing and also contracting aids are very slim . e.g. 0.1% of 1% (chance to fail) which is 0.001% which is hundred thousand to one. Considering the other person only has less than 10% chance of having aids to start of with..(depends on country who the person is.) This brings it to down to 1 in a million. Means you can have sex every day with a different partner for 30 years and still only have a 1% chance of contracting it!!
This sounds right! just one issue:
They recon 50% of HIV gets spread by people that ,recently got HIV, primary infection . People in this time period are estimated 100 times more infectious than after this period..(except when they are fighting full blown AIDS).
Now this risk is still high there are only two things you can do :
a) wear a condom, which hopefully does not break, make sure you have not cuts on ur lips, in your mouth or near your groin or on your fingers.
b) prevent the situation by asking about fever... which is not very reliable.
So I think the method is flawed unless you have been with the person in the last 30 days or you are pretty certain they did not have unprotected sex in that time and have had no signs of fever , sore throat . Some strains of aids only give a mild runny nose !
So in the end is it saver then wearing condoms? Not sure but maybe almost as save..
Where did you get the stats from that condoms are only 85% save? is this in a long term relationship or once off?
I agree with CowboyRex , I think the chance of the test failing and also contracting aids are very slim . e.g. 0.1% of 1% (chance to fail) which is 0.001% which is hundred thousand to one. Considering the other person only has less than 10% chance of having aids to start of with..(depends on country who the person is.) This brings it to down to 1 in a million. Means you can have sex every day with a different partner for 30 years and still only have a 1% chance of contracting it!!
This sounds right! just one issue:
They recon 50% of HIV gets spread by people that ,recently got HIV, primary infection . People in this time period are estimated 100 times more infectious than after this period..(except when they are fighting full blown AIDS).
Now this risk is still high there are only two things you can do :
a) wear a condom, which hopefully does not break, make sure you have not cuts on ur lips, in your mouth or near your groin or on your fingers.
b) prevent the situation by asking about fever... which is not very reliable.
So I think the method is flawed unless you have been with the person in the last 30 days or you are pretty certain they did not have unprotected sex in that time and have had no signs of fever , sore throat . Some strains of aids only give a mild runny nose !
So in the end is it saver then wearing condoms? Not sure but maybe almost as save..
Where did you get the stats from that condoms are only 85% save? is this in a long term relationship or once off?
Bearded stranger - yes it is very disturbing. These girls are going to have done this with every man they have met. Hmm go figure what they are likely to be carrying. They are obviously very ignorant and completely uneducated. it really makes me laugh the way society tars escorts and working girls like myself with the 'dirty whore' brush, when most of us (the good ones anyway) take as many precautions as is possible, and there's these girls who go out and lay a different bloke every night of the week (unpaid - must be mad!
, use nothing and very likely have every STI under the sun.For me, safe sex without condom is like playing with Russian roulette. HIV and STD are not the only risks but unwanted pregnancy. Do you want to pay child support for the next 18 years if she wants to keep the baby?
What do I think? well it has some reality, but stupidity as well.
If you catch the virus, you dont have to have fever necessarily.
Plus to be sure that you are negative for 100%, it has to have 3-6 months since the last intercourse. So you might get the virus few days ago but the test shows you are negative.
If you catch the virus, you dont have to have fever necessarily.
Plus to be sure that you are negative for 100%, it has to have 3-6 months since the last intercourse. So you might get the virus few days ago but the test shows you are negative.
