Same Sex Marriage

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  1. avg_joe

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    Same sex marriage has been gaining traction in the U.S. More and more states are now allowing either civil union or same sex marriage. What's your stance on that? Any thought?
     
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    Definitely for it. :smile:

    I've yet to see a legitimate reason why not :confused: The "sanctity of marriage" is far less honored by hetero's (not all, but enough that, that arguement don't fly no more :rolleyes:).
     
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    It's about time.
     
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    Just fine...to each his / her own... who is it hurting? I agree with Country above...

    Seems to be the evangiliticals that protestest the most...
     
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    It's not for me and my partner personally, but it should be available everywhere to anyone who wants it. But let one of the current crop of Rethuglican crazies get into the Oval Office and gays will be lucky just to avoid execution. Think that's farfetched? If so, just examine their public utterances and their not-so-public alliances with fascist cronies. Ron Paul, for one, is allied with a loony and dangerous "minister" who wants biblical law to replace the Constitution, including the extermination of gays. (Check out AlterNet for important political information.)
     
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    The United States government has no business regulating marriage.

    Marriage should be a religious ceremony and that is all. The government should not recognize marriage for any purpose nor should it give benefits to couples for the sole reason of marriage.

    If couples want legal protections they should hire a lawyer and sign the paperwork.
     
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    The Federal or State governnment or both?
     
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    The Federal government, constitutionally. But the State Government shouldn't either.
     
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    ALL quiet on the NZ Civil Union front..............
    (forever promoting NZ hah - often to my chagrin)

    Civil union in New Zealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Civil union has been legal in New Zealand since 26 April 2005. The Civil Union Act to establish the institution of civil union for same-sex and opposite-sex ...

    Civil Union Act 2004 No 102 (as at 24 January 2009), Public Act – New Zealand Legislation

    perhaps send link on to yr Senators hah

    me, totally agree with it, but never desired such on a personal level, plus have gone past the stage of needing it.
     
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    Sorry, but we aren't libertarian wonderland, dear, and never will be. And coming from this political independent, you might as well take that little dream and go drown it in a bathtub. The GOP won't tell that ever come to fruition so keep on wishing but marriage will continue to be regulated by the local, state, and federal governments.

    Meanwhile, the realistic and practical solution to allow legalized unions of same-gender couples as well...
     
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    Exactly what I say. And with marriage being legally recognized also comes the government telling people how their marriage has to be defined (monetary payment for license, community property states, government deciding who can and cannot, etc.). Are people's personal lives the government's business or not? Sooner or later, Americans will have to decide how to answer to that question and stop waffling back and forth, picking and choosing when it is convenient.
     
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    Agreed.

    It's nothing more than a legal contract.

    I believe more and more in the need for separation of church and state.
     
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    When marriage stops being a civil contract then you can get the government out of it.
     
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    I think gay couples should be allowed to become just as miserable all the married hetero- couples out there. :cool:
     
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    Yes for same-sex marriage. It's not a gay issue, it's a human rights issue.
     
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    Marriage has never been a right. Whether regulated by the church or state, it has always been subject to rules of who can enter into it and under what circumstances.
     
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    Totally agree with MelbourneGirl, a human rights issue. Values of equality and dignity for all shouldn't have to be taught to law-makers and representatives.
    If people used even an ounce of energy in fighting consumerism and obesity as they do towards fighting the gays, maybe an alarmingly high amount of people wouldn't be fat and in debt, homeless and unemployed.

    Then again, I suppose we might have to learn from the likes of those who caused the fall of the Berlin wall, or who faught to have Nelson Mandela released or those who faught communist rule and dictatorship as to exactly what is necessary to achieve these (clearly far-fetched) ideals of equality and dignity.
     
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    I am glad that I live in a country where this is not an issue. ;รพ
     
  19. D_Judith K Rantz

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    Exactly what I said in another thread. It's crazy - a government that tries so hard to stay out of people's personal lives still can't grasp the founding concept of "Separation of church and state".
     
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    The governor of Washington has just announced her support of a same sex marriage bill going before the state legislature. If enacted, it will make Washington the 7th state to legalize marriage equality.
     
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