Scary World We Live In

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by marleyisalegend, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. marleyisalegend

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    as if it's not bad enough dealing with gay-bashing, the collapsing economy, relatives overseas and hoping to not get shot on your trip to the mall, apparently we're not even safe in our sleep

    http://www.lpsg.org/31354-have-u-ever-touched-man.html

    the above thread (which holds an average rating of 4.5) is dedicated to touching, fondling, suckin, etc... grown men, younger brothers, and childhood friends in their sleep. It contains pages of stories about taking advantage of someone sleeping over or in the same hotel, and even tips and techiniques for ways to get close to and fondle their penis. The reason is that this concerns me is as much as we argue that being gay is a choice, I can't imagine it being much of a choice for someone who wakes up and finds their childhood friend that they care about sucking their dick. I personally choose to be gay, love to be gay, whatever you want to call it but my concern is that I have a 9 and 13 year old nephew. I wonder if this kind of behavior goes on when they sleep over at a friends house. In my own opinion (and one that would probably stand true in any courtroom) the act of touching, fondling, sucking, kissing etc... a man in his sleep constitutes sexual assault. The participant is sleep and therefore has no idea what's being done (worse that its being bragged about on a website). I personally would feel extremely violated is i'm 13 years old and awake to find that my "friend" took it upon himself to unzip my pants or reach down my shorts and do whatever he felt compelled to with my penis. Once again my bigger concern is that this predatory behavior could be happening to any of my young cousins. This thread is very popular and it seems that many people are completely okay and find no fault in taking advantage of someone in their sleep, regardless of the person's sexual orientation, not that it matters. Even if someone's gay does that mean you're openly invited to do what you will while they're sleep? I'm not talking about sucking your boyfriends dick while he's sleep, (I've done that before) I'm talking about someone who is unsuspecting of your behavior, someone who may even be straight, and trusts you enough to sleep in the same room, worst of all someone who's underage and/or family. Anybody else feel the same?? different??

    if this does fall in line with sexual assault, should the MODs not close a thread that not only praises it and trades stories back and forth in a pornographic style, but offers advice such as how to roll over while pretending to be sleep and acting as if your hand accidently falls over your friends genitilia
     
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    For the most part I agree.
    I have argued against and dislike the posts where people are basically discussing rape. I guess the issue is there are some who are just pretending to be asleep during an encounter, and that is where the grey area comes in. However, because a percentage, even if small, exists that are truly unaware that sexual contact is occurring against their will - I do not believe the perpetrators of these crimes should have a venue to gain support or absolving for their crime.

    But, this is something Mods have to address and figure out the guidelines for in these threads where grey areas exist. There is definitely a line, but where to set it is probably an issue?
     
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    i would knock someone out if that ever happend to me

    ...unless it was my girlfriend
     
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    Let's say for argument's sake that someone is only pretending to be asleep during the encounter. Wouldn't the aggressor have to be the kind of bastard-fried bastard with bastard cream filling who would molest an acquaintance in his sleep in the first place? Ick!
     
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    See now, I wouldn't have used a LPSG thread as evidence that the world is fucked up. I'd just point out that more people voted for American Idol instead of the presidency.

    I'd say that's pretty fucking scary.
     
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    not as scary as it sounds lol
     
  7. marleyisalegend

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    especially since AI allows multiple voting and you don't have to be 18
     
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    It was a tongue in cheek comment, but I digress.

    Want to know whats really scary? I enter the work force next year in the midst of an economic recession, a war, and in debt to my student loan company. Hopefully my PSU degree is worth as much as I paid for it.
     
  9. marleyisalegend

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    yeah, its amazes me the thread is still open. apparently there's nothing wrong with preying on people
     
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    It is my opinion that any and all sexual touching, kissing, looking, whatever without the other persons consent or knowledge is sexual assault and / or rape, and should be punishable as such with long prison term.
     
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    Looking isn't synonymous with a sexual assault/rape. You went overboard there with your prescribed punishment IMO.
     
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    exactly. and certainly shouldn't be tolerated on this site
     
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