Scientists: circumcision = male genital mutilation and should be outlawed

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  1. B_johnschlong

    B_johnschlong New Member

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    Interesting debate here:
    I have nothing against male genital mutilation per se, provided it is done on medical grounds.

    But I once said here at LPSG that I don't agree with the ritualist, traditionalist reasons given for the practise, because they can be correlated to barbaric and dangerous cultures and worldviews (monotheism, protestantism, victorianism).

    Some bashed me for thinking so, but I see that scientists use the same terms: "male genital mutilation", "ritualistic", etc...

    So only in case of medical necessity, else, don't circumcise your son, its cruel, outdated and limits pleasure.
     
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    Are you British bro? If so, whats the facination with cut dicks?
     
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    Tosh...........
     
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    It's about time this question was raised. I agree completely with the position in the paper. Short of true medical necessity, circumcision should not be performed on a minor incapable of legal informed consent.
     
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    communism? Marxism? fascism? johnschlongism? beingafuckwittrollism? Aren't those the more dangerous forces at work in the world? and Victorianism- yeah.. definitely correlates with barbarism. Are you using a computer made out of coconuts and switchgrass? Your ability to spread your idiocy online owes much to the industrial revolution.
     
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    Pretty sure he's not British, though I do think he lives under a bridge...
     
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    Gentlemen, I think Mr. Schlong has posted a perfectly reasonable post.

    And I believe that "Victorianism", as Mr. Schlong is using it, is referring to people who operate on outdated principles of suppressing sexuality and any expression of it.

    I also agree with the basis of the debate: I believe a man should have a choice on whether he is cut or not.
     
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    bullshit. He's a worthless troll and always will be. His trollish tendencies are clearly evinced AGAIN in the inflammatory language of the subject heading of this thread, and no doubt the ulterior motive here is to once again bash the USA since circumcision is prevalent there. When he's not jerking off to tranny porn that's all this jagoff knows how to do. Go to his profile and click "find all threads started by johnschlong" and see for yourself how each and every one of them turns out, if they get any attention at all. He sometimes starts out trying to sound reasonable... then it devolves from there.
     
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    Well, yeah it's inflammatory but I look at the data presented separately from the presenter. I have no desire to debate the poster when the post itself is worthwhile. This is an ethics discussion in my book.
     
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    one that has been discussed already on this board AD NAUSEUM and there is absolutely no good reason to bring up again, other than to be a troll.
     
  11. Not_Punny

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    I know that some of his threads have been the cause of much hair-pulling. Does that mean that everything is that way?

    I don't see it in this one.

    I am completely willing to be wrong, but this particular thread doesn't seem to be that way, and it doesn't seem fair to paint him with tar just because he piped up.
     
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    NIC, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. :tongue:

    You are right about those threads.

    But I think I am right about this thread.

    - - - - - - -

    Mr. Schlong -- wherever you are -- my apologies for talking about you as if you aren't even present. I'm sure you're out there.

    And I'm sure that in due time I'll know if I was right on this thread, or if I was wrong. So be it! :wink:

    A good evening to all. (I'm off to the Funny Farm, I mean Funny Forum)
     
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    "There may be a case that male circumcision reduces HIV risk in sexually active adults"

    fuck it lets outlaw condoms too!

    Anyway, with all due respect my lovely venice beach milf, I'm not sure you have been around long enough to see what these cut vs uncut threads escalate into. Slowly but surely all the circumcision nazis will come out the woodwork and it turns into a war. All the uncut people hate on the cut people, whereas us cut folk don't really seem to give a shit and are quite happy with our beautiful, streamlined, [clean], cocks.
     
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    :mad::mad::mad:Yes, circumcision is a barbarous custom that must be outlawed in all nations that respect the rights of man!:mad::mad::mad:
     
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    Why in the world, would any male want to have his cock cut,as an adult?
    I know a man who did and it was horribly painful for him.
    When he noticed it was slightly less in length,he was upset.
    Do it when they're an infant, I haven't seen any evidence of long term damage,to the childs mind,body,presented credibly by either side.
    How can you miss,something you never had?
    cigarbabe:saevil:
     
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    It's encouraging to hear that the BMJ has taken up the issue. Back when female circ became the issue du jour, I knew it was only a matter of time before the lack of legal protection concerning infant male genital integrity became an issue.

    There's been a fairly broad popular movement to ban RIC and a few legal efforts in the US, but until the medical establishment gets behind the issue, baby boys will continue to be mutilated for the sake of archaic ways of thinking.

    It's been well established in the US that legal protection for one gender must be applied to both genders. I'm very happy that baby girls are no longer neutered by the knife, let's hope it's not much longer before boys are granted the same protections.
     
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    Exactly, cigarbabe. If you let an adult man the free choice, he will decide not to have his cock mutilated - all the reasons the ritual cutters will present to him will be rejected as bogus nonsense.

    There are no good reasons for circumcision, except ritual ones, and these are very powerful.

    If a community decides to exert its collective power over the individual by carving identity in that individual in the most primitive way (the literal incision in the flesh), then so be it. But rational people have the right to debate the use of such primitive practises in our day and age.

    There are other techniques with which communities can mark individuals into a common identity. Destroying ones' genitals is a bit radical and an outdated technique, just my two cents.
     
  18. jafar

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    There are lots of scientific reasons why circumcision is necessary. Phimosis, frenulum baeve, paraphimosis, recurrent infections, etc., the list goes on. Have you ever experienced any foreskin problem, or you have never had a foreskin at all?

     
  19. jafar

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    There is broad popular movement at all. It is a just a very vocal minority that distorts scientific facts and resorts to lying about the "harms" of circumcision. Circumcision is becoming more popular around the world than ever. In countries where RIC is not performed, up to 20 - 30% of young men need to or choose to be circumcised in late teenage years or early adulthood as they become sexually active (e.g. China, Korea). Other countries are promoting circumcision as a prophylactic measure against HIV infection, e.g. Africa.

     
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