Mind Control? Perhaps so. I see your shirttails are showing.
Scientists: circumcision = male genital mutilation and should be outlawed
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Have you noticed that a number of such "studies" have already been discussed in a many other threads?
An alternative view is that they were stopped early to lock in an initial differential. In my opinion, had the "studies" gone their planned length, the differential would have been insignificant.
"Dramatic" largely because of the early termination.
See also: http://www.lpsg.org/70078-circumcision-does-not-stop-hiv.html -- that thread discusses a very recent study.
Like it or not, HIV is entirely a behavior linked disease – ask the former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Chopping off foreskins is hardly the solution. If you don’t want AIDs: monogamy with a monogamous partner (serial monogamy isn’t good enough), don’t shoot up, and avoid Dentist that don’t clean their tools.
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I don't know if this works as an analogy, but if a small boy should win/inherit a lot of money(Hey, there ARE those who do!), he will not have access to it until he's reached the age of 18(in Norway, anyway), but neither will his parents.
He doesn't have the right to access that money on the grounds that society finds him incapable of making mature decisions; by default: he is just a child.
But legally he is still the rightful owner of that money. And when he's 18 he's allowed to spend it as he likes.
So who is the owner of a child's body?
Is there at all any chance that a man who sues his parents(or someone responsible) for deciding to have him circumcised(on non-medical grounds) as a child, could win?
(I'm not suggesting that this man is the same who 20 years earlier won a lot of money, and whose soul now has been possessed by capitalism...)
Has this ever happened?
Could it?
Would he have to prove that the procedure did him any physical harm in order to win?
Questions, only questions...
He doesn't have the right to access that money on the grounds that society finds him incapable of making mature decisions; by default: he is just a child.
But legally he is still the rightful owner of that money. And when he's 18 he's allowed to spend it as he likes.
So who is the owner of a child's body?
Is there at all any chance that a man who sues his parents(or someone responsible) for deciding to have him circumcised(on non-medical grounds) as a child, could win?
(I'm not suggesting that this man is the same who 20 years earlier won a lot of money, and whose soul now has been possessed by capitalism...)
Has this ever happened?
Could it?
Would he have to prove that the procedure did him any physical harm in order to win?
Questions, only questions...
I think you are well informed about a lot of things, but for some reason this is a topic you choose to remain ignorant in. You are not your usual genial, sometimes gruff self when it comes to genital cutting. You are different I think because genital cutting pisses you off too, but you can't think of a way to couch it so out comes the anger and unpleasant manner of speaking.
dxj,
if you honestly think that johnschlong is not a troll and is a legit poster, and that somehow my posts calling him out on this fact are in any way erroneous, just because of your own perverse obsession with this topic... then... I'm sorry... you are a moron. I only become angry and unpleasant when faced with guys like you and chico and snozzle et cetera who are unpleasant from the get-go. Do you really think that calling someone mutilated is being pleasant? I sympathize with those who have been adversely affected by the practice of circumcision, but truth be told, the overzealous nuts on this board have, in my estimation, greatly hurt their own cause by being so incredibly dense, intentionally inflammatory, and repugnantly insensitive. If I come across as angry, it is partially your fault and the fault of your like-minded compatriots on this website.
My problem with johnschlong, however, extends well beyond this single issue. If you read my posts with an open mind, not blinded by your obstinate stance on this one thing, then I think you're probably intelligent enough to see that I'm absolutely right. I humbly submit that in your fervor and conviction you have overlooked the truth of what I've said about him because you happen to agree on this one issue.
Overstated. The truth is not always pleasant. Your anger is your own.
so you're going to call me out on my unpleasantness...
but you and your posse are allowed to be unpleasant inflammatory insensitive overzealous hyperbole-spouting naziesque grade A assholes because you represent "the truth?" Fucking bullshit. You're never going to win any sympathy for your asinine cause that way, you're just alienating and dividing while surrounding yourself with an echo chamber of fools who already agreed with you in the first place. I, for one, would be on your side of the argument if your side didn't have so many condescending ignorant asswipes in it. and your previous faux pleasantness doesn't do much to hide your condescension on this matter. fuck off.
I AM very interested in seeing any study that claimed circumcision STOPS HIV transmission.
The PROPER wording is Adult Male Circumcision Significantly Reduces Risk of Acquiring HIV
Adult Male Circumcision Significantly Reduces Risk of Acquiring HIV, December 13, 2006 News Release - National Institutes of Health (NIH)
But to the scorched earth policy of never ever circumcise then twisting the wording certainly furthers the cause.
I already deal with thousands of other posters here posting empty cliches that say absolutely nothing and wasting bandwidth so your wish is granted Steve. Post something substantive and maybe I'll respond in kind.
Pot kettle black. You've never said anything substantive on the topic, only to curse what others say.
Maybe you'll respond in kind. That's very smug of you.
NIC, try to reduce your anger.
It's a contentious subject for sure but note that I've never called anyone an "asshole" nor used the F-word at them. Nor have I insulted their intellect, to my recollection. You can do a search to verify that but that would be a waste of your time.
When you use that kind of nastiness it's counterproductive and you nullify your side's assertion that my side is "angry" or "inflammatory".
It's a contentious subject for sure but note that I've never called anyone an "asshole" nor used the F-word at them. Nor have I insulted their intellect, to my recollection. You can do a search to verify that but that would be a waste of your time.
When you use that kind of nastiness it's counterproductive and you nullify your side's assertion that my side is "angry" or "inflammatory".
Another empty post gets an empty response from me. You're living in a fantasy.
Rather the reverse my sometimes intelligent friend. I don't have a "cause" technically. My cause, if it's so offensive, is simply to normalize the natural penis in our culture. Donno why you act the way you do. You've got a lot of things rattling around in that head of yours.
