Scientists Think They May Be Receiving Messages From the Future

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  1. jason_els

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    This is beyond bizarre and were it not in The Times and were it not for the two people considering this theory..... it would belong in Weekly World News.

    You know the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) which CERN built isn't working as it should, right? Things are fixed only to have something else break or odd things happen which seem to sabotage the LHC.

    Remember when physicists assured the world that the LHC wouldn't inadvertently bring an end to the universe (or, at least, our precious Earth)?

    Two physicists aren't so sure any longer and the jokes about the end of the universe floating around CERN have stopped.

    Holger Bech Nielsen of the Nils Bohr Institute in Copenhagen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto have developed a theory that the Higgs Boson particle which scientists hoped to discover, is actually creating a situation where its creation results in the destruction of whatever created it before it happens.

    Nielsen and Ninomiya are cautious about advancing their theory until it is better developed but they do appear to be serious about it. Other physicists working at CERN express disbelief at such a theory but some are at least politely circumspect.
     
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    This is great news. Can we now back and properly run the 2000 Presidential election?

    The concept is fascinating, but I'd hate to see the equation.
     
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    Thanks for that one Jason. I love the idea. Totally star trek, and I never knew that about the A-bomb.

    Did you read the comments under the article? Brilliant. I wish some of those folks posted here.
     
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    Great article (and comments) to wake up to in the morning. Brain stimulating. That damn occam's razor keeps coming back to me though, can it not be that the collider is such a monumental experiment that we haven't perfected the technology to do it yet? I'm sure the first few versions of the airplane crashed before amelia fly across the ocean. Seems like there are a lot of things that could go wrong with a 17 mile long tunnel. I WANT TO BELIEVE.
     
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    Of course, it is only a mathematically valid theory. It does not mean that it is, in fact, true...or that is actually represents reality in any way. And the balance of the article and its proponents say that. But it is, nonetheless, intriguing.
     
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    Fascinating!

    Cue the queue of sci-fi movies, shows, etc. inspired by this storyline.
     
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    I think it has already happened, what is that show about to air when the entire planet blacks out for 20 minutes because of the collider? I think it is called Flashforward. Damn paradoxes!
     
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    Actually, that's already been done, hence the movie Triangle. Where the 40's Philadelphia experiment goes wrong and sets off a blast through time, then another experiment today sets off a back blast that actually causes the Bermuda Triangle. They just didn't use an LHC.
     
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    large Hardon Collider :biggrin1:
     
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    If I ever own a gay bar...
     
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    I just sent them a message to arrive in the future. "BITE A ROOT!" Now, I hope that Al Gore is the recipient. haha
     
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    Indeed. I thought of The Omega Directive from ST Voyager right away.
     
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    I did but I'm wondering about the one comment that mentions we're not in the position of the murderer killing his grandfather so much as we're in the observer position. I tend to think we might be both, rather like particles are particles and waves are waves but waves and particles are also waves and particles. It brings me back to the scattergram experiment which just blew me away no end when it was proven that dual realities can exist in the same space-time continuum.

    Amelia Earhart luggage: For when you're not worried if your bags disappear forever.

    I have to agree with this. The tunnel is enormous, the technology involved is precise and delicate, and one has to wonder if, perhaps, at such high levels of science, real and true professional saboteurs haven't infiltrated the organization. It sounds James Bondish but then CERN is a very James Bondish kind of place with very strategic advantages for the countries which have the technology and capability to exploit the discoveries such a collider would provide. Previous colliders have gained their nations' numerous military and technological advances to the degree that I wonder if other less developed nations might want to keep the genie in the bottle. It would not surprise me to find various nations focusing espionage money on CERN for strategic purposes.
     
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