I'm tired of everyone telling 'noobs' to use the search function. I have been here for two years and still don't get satisfactory results from the search function on this site! I have MUCH better luck going to google, and then entering my search parameters followed by the letters lpsg. Only then do I find the apprprpriate threads. Exactly what parameters did you enter to get those results? Did you have to use some of your forehand knowledge of the thread titles to improve your search results? I know I always have to. If we want our community to continue to grow and flourish, we MUST be more encouraging to our NOOBs. If you want to point out threads already discussing their issues, do so. If you want to teach them (or me, for that matter) how to get good results from the search function, do so. I used to espouse the virtues of the search function too until I tried to actually use it a while back. It may be better now that there are tags, but tags won't help you get information from before the days of tags. Be nice! I'm done ranting now.