Seems like Chavez has seen F911 one too many times

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  1. Dr. Dilznick

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    Source: Reuters

    CARACAS, Venezuela, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a vocal critic of the U.S. government, on Wednesday called U.S. President George W. Bush a "FAKE cowboy" who had failed to manage the Hurricane Katrina disaster and evacuate victims.

    "That government had no evacuation plan, it is incredible, the first power in the world that is so involved in Iraq ... and left its own population adrift," Chavez said in a cabinet meeting broadcast live on television.

    His remarks came as U.S. authorities evacuated thousands of people from New Orleans and after Bush said it would take years to recover from flooding caused by Hurricane Katrina.

    The death toll on Wednesday reached at least 200 in what Bush called the nation's worst natural disaster.

    "That man, the king of vacations ... the king of vacations in his ranch said nothing but, you have to flee, and didn't say how ... that cowboy, the cowboy mentality," said Chavez, chuckling in a reference to Bush without naming him directly.

    Chavez, an outspoken populist who calls Cuba's Fidel Castro an ally, often lambastes what he calls Washington's failed imperialist policies. He says the Bush administration is trying to assassinate him and calls the U.S. president "Mr. Danger."

    The two governments frequently clash though the United States is the top oil client of Venezuela, the world's No. 5 crude exporter. Washington portrays Chavez as a menace who uses his nation's oil wealth to fund anti-democratic groups.

    The Venezuelan president, applauded by supporters for his self-proclaimed socialist revolution to fight poverty, has offered to send cheap fuel, humanitarian aid and relief workers to the disaster area.

    Venezuelan state oil firm PDVSA has offered $1 million from its U.S.-based refinery unit Citgo for relief efforts.
     
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    Fucked up the thread title. Anyway, fuck that Memin Pinguin endorsing motherfucker.
     
  3. Dr Rock

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    you seem to be implying that these statements are inaccurate?

    I'm not terribly fond of chavez either, but he seems to be entirely correct on this occasion.
     
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    I don't read anything there to disagree with.
     
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    No, I just don't think there's a need to expound on that nefariously nitwitted product of nepotism. Plus the fact that Chavez is milking this tragedy for his own political gain.
     
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    Had the mayor listened to calls to evacuate New Orleans earlier much could have been avoided but he did nothing for political purposes and the President had to force him to finally impose a mandatory evacuation. FEMA as well as other organizations have attempted to begin relief efforts but ordered them to stop after trucks were hijacked and shot at. Had the local and state level been more prepared, the assistance from the federal level would have been carried out quicker. Bush has done everything he can so far, the state should have taken control of this situation from the beginning.
     
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    No, I just don't think there's a need to expound on that nefariously nitwitted product of nepotism. Plus the fact that Chavez is milking this tragedy for his own political gain.
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    :shrug: he's a politician, what do you expect? do you think he would've handled the situation any better than the morons currently in DC? politicians talk; they don't act, unless they see an opportunity to waste other peoples' time and money.
     
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    But Bush does take too many vacations and is incompetent. And he does pretend to be a cowboy.
     
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    There is so much wrong and inaccurate, (to say nothing of being made up of outright lies) with this statement that I can't even begin to address it. There is NO FUCKING STATE in what's left of the Union that could deal with a MONUMENTAL CRISIS of this magnitude. If the Federal Government doesn't exist to protect and provide for the emergency care and welfare of its citizens...just what the hell does it exist for?

    From your post: "Bush has done everything he can so far..."
    What? Show up and pose for photo-ops, which have been orchestrated and scripted? THAT is doing everything he can?

    Spare us all.

    Philly, had something of this magnitude happened in YOUR HOME TOWN, I'll bet my last orgasm, YOU would be singing a very different tune.
     
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    Im sorry bud but the local and state governments are the first lines of defense and implement their emergency plans under these instances. Following 9/11, Giuliani stepped up to the plate and imposed police presence throughout the city and worked with Pataki, with assistance from the feds. This is the reason why we have state and local governments. We have seen that Bush has had to force Blanco and Nagin to call for a mandatory evacuation, they sat on their hands. The governor of LA has failed in their role and you are now seeing that the feds have to step in and take care of their failure.
     
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    To stop gay marriages, to tax the bottom 80% and give the revenue to the top 20%, to invest in hydrogen fuel cells and other perpetual motion machines, and to make sure the states teach kids how to pass a test and nothing else.
     
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    And this absolutely dwarfs the destruction, loss of life and human suffering of 9/11. THIS catastrophic event in no way resembles the horrific tragedy in New York. New York would be absolutely, positively bankrupt without the billions of dollars the US government poured into the city and state. It CERTAINLY didn't take five days for Washington to respond to the attack, now did it? New York had NO plan for what happened there, either. And the city of NY, to say nothing of the state, has resources hundreds of times greater than the entire state of Louisiana.
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/09/...tion=cnn_latest

    UNITED NATIONS ( AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took President Bush to task in front of a global summit for waging war in Iraq without U.N. consent and won rousing applause for his critique.

    The leftist leader told a U.N. summit Thursday that fighting the war without U.N. authorization showed Washington did not respect the world body. He recommended moving U.N. headquarters to a country that has more regard for the organization.

    "There were never weapons of mass destruction but Iraq was bombed, and over U.N. objections, [it was] occupied and continues being occupied," Chavez said.

    In arguing to go to war, Bush said that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, but none have been found.

    "That's why we propose to this assembly that the United Nations leave this country, which is not respectful of the very resolutions of this assembly," Chavez said.

    Chavez, a close ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, suggested moving U.N. headquarters from New York to an international city "outside the sovereignty of any state" and said some have mentioned Jerusalem as one possibility.

    But the Venezuelan leader said the new headquarters has to be in the South, home to most developing countries.

    Bush was not in the audience when Chavez spoke to the world representatives. But the U.S. president did address the summit's opening session on Wednesday morning, then returned to Washington later that day.

    World leaders at the summit had been asked to speak for five minutes, but Chavez ran long, and when the presiding diplomat passed him a note saying his time was up, he threw it on the floor. He said if Bush could speak for 20 minutes, so could he.

    When he finally stopped, he got what observers said was the loudest applause of the summit.

    Relations between Chavez and Washington have become increasingly strained, though the United States remains the top buyer of Venezuelan oil.

    Chavez repeatedly has accused the U.S. government of backing plots against him and recently alleged Washington was preparing to invade his country.

    American religious broadcaster Pat Robertson recently suggested the United States assassinate Chavez because he poses a threat. Chavez responded that Robertson had clearly "expressed the wish of the elite that govern the United States." Robertson has since apologized.

    U.S. officials strongly deny the Venezuelan leader's claims but have expressed concerns about the health of the country's democracy under Chavez, who was first elected in 1998 pledging a social "revolution" for the poor majority.

    The two leaders have clashed over a host of other issues as well.

    Bush criticized Venezuela's government earlier Thursday, saying the South American nation had "failed demonstrably" to make a concerted effort to block shipments of illicit narcotics to the United States and Europe last year.

    Venezuela could have been subjected to a cutoff of U.S. assistance, but Bush decided to waive the provision because of national security interests.

    In August, Chavez accused the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of using its agents in Venezuela for espionage and said Venezuela was suspending cooperation with the agency. The Bush administration denied the espionage allegation.

    Chavez, whose country is the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, also warned the world is facing an unprecedented energy crisis.

    He told reporters later the crisis will keep growing, "not because we the producers want it but because we are running out of oil."

    Chavez singled out the United States as the most wasteful country, saying he was shocked when a quarter of all the cars he counted Thursday morning on New York streets had one person in them.

    "That's crazy, one person with a huge car ... that is using up gas and polluting the atmosphere," he said at a news conference. "The world cannot tolerate this model of development called the American way of life."

    In a form of energy diplomacy, Chavez has extended a preferential oil trade deal called PetroCaribe to 13 Caribbean countries in what he says is part of a plan to challenge U.S. economic domination of the region.

    Under the plan, Venezuela soon will sell up to 190,000 barrels of fuel a day to countries from Jamaica to St. Lucia, offering favorable financing while shipping fuel directly to reduce costs.
     
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