Serious Questions for the straight guys..

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  1. B_Stronzo

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    Can someone explain to me precisely why heterosexual men find the notion of two women rubbing clit and eating pussy in their ménage à trois arousing? Even mainstream television seems to accept it (while talking down the two men one woman variety of a threesome) as an accepted practice among "heterosexual" (??) couples.

    Why is the lop-sided prejudice toward the "right kind" of threeome (so-called and referring to MFF) versus the "wrong kind" (so-called and referring to MMF) so prevalent? Fuck man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    I cannot count the number of women who followed the American version of Queer as Folk. Some estimates put it at nearly forty percent of the audience. So it appears that sex is sex. Yet the social imbalance is obvious.

    Who dictates this shit?

    And what's up with this insistence that women provide two orifices for men yet malign gay men for anal sex? Gay men have a prostate to stimulate. Females (though I hear some enjoy it) have nothing up their to stimulate (perhaps they're into pain).

    What (please really explain this to me) is so appealing about being in a MFF threesome and watching two women munch rug and make out?

    I just watched a posted video where what I describe above was happening and two slim brunettes were rubbing each other's pussies and kissing while the lone dude just looked on choking his chicken.
     
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    Maybe it is the way some are wired. Maybe is personal preference. Maybe it is what our society has "taught" us through time. There is no easy answer as you have asked a lot of questions. I much prefer watching two men and one woman!
     
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    Many many people have a sexual curiosity when normal daily life doesn't deliver on. My wife often muses on getting turned on by thinking of me screwing one of her friends, even though that event would not likely ever happen. I know guys who like to think about the possibility of "lesbians" and "curing" them with his member. Or guys who wonder what "homos" do, and will confess to watching gay porn.

    I often think the interest in porn is a substitute for society's overall repressed emotionality.
     
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    I personally like a MMF threesome MFF is to much damned work.
     
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    i dont know. i personally see MMF as two guys using a women as an object. then again, i am basing this of porn. as for MFF, i think its about two girls wanting to please you instead of just one. i personally find girl on girl porn boring as hell
     
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    Well, for most it is just fantasy.

    I have done MFF for one of the women, who was curious to be with a woman, but wanted the moral support.

    I have done MFF because I wanted one woman on my cock and one on my face, MFFF because I wanted to go down on one woman and G spot masturbate the other two, MFFFF because I got greedy :biggrin1:.

    In practical terms, I have no fantasy about watching two women, you are having two on one, with variations of course. Six hands, three tongues, two pussies, one cock, or one pussy two cocks in MMF. The difference if you are str8 str8 is that you are unlikely to want to have a go on the other man with the woman. But then I have been with women who were happy for the other woman to go down on her, but wasn't going to reciprocate.

    What it boils down to is that you either have all three (or more) who are happy to do everything with everyone else, or you have a specific purpose, which could be a guy wanting to watch two women, one of the women wanting to try another woman, or just liking being with women, a woman wanting the attention of two men, or even a man liking being with another man, though this does seem to be the least familiar.

    This looks like fun :eek:

    Just Use Me
     
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    It's not about watching 2 women munching. It's about fantasy, picturing yourself getting in the middle of those two oral women. It's about getting them to work on YOU. You being gay, I assume you don't have that fantasy.

    Next, as to the "2 orifice" theory. All orifices are not the same. Surely, you can't equate someone's asshole with someone's mouth? Not all holes are made equal.
     
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    I've always thought the fantasy was that the girls were so horned up for cock that they are having sex with each other since there wasn't one available, and then the guy comes in and is able to satisfy them. This might not account for all the interest in this fantasy, but I do think it's what turns some guys on.
     
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    I think the two holes he is referring to are vag and ass. In other words, hets have anal sex but put down gays for doing the same thing.
     
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    Stronzo you are right, there is a HUGE double standard. Straight men are such hypocrites! They wanna pretend that seeing two men kissing makes them wanna throw up yet go home and ask their wives to toss their salad. They wanna make a BIG stink (like my pun?) about the butthole being the orifice of choice when it comes to two men having sex, yet are constantly prodding and poking their wives to let them fuck them up the butt.

    It seems that many straight men are just concerned with body hair and the male scent.

    Fucking a butthole that is hairless and smells like perfume is not much removed from fucking a butthole that is hairy and smells like Drakkar Noir.

    As a straight man, I fucking HATE lesbian porn... unless they are stuffing huge dildos up each other's cootchies which momentarily suspends my disdain for the genre! lol!

    As a straight man, I am not into buttsecks or anything concerning the anus... it's just my personal preference. Female homosexuality does not turn me on either.

    We need more men being shown to be in LOVE in the media at this time. Redneck America needs to see a lot of that before they start being comfortable seeing men kissing or even having sex on their TV or in the theaters... gotta love the Rednecks! lol!
     
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    Women are beautiful. But at the same time, lesbian porn with gets fast fowarded when I watch because it does nothing for me. Now lesbian action in a FFM situation is porn is a big turn on. As long as it is not too exclusive as the situation you described where a guy just watches. Its kinda like all 3 can service each other indiscriminately.

    Maybe because I imagine I want to be that guy. Or the sensations that two mouths, four hands can bring.

    As far a it being a double standard? It could be. But I do not find too many women liking to watch two guys go at it. Some have told me they find it a turn off. I know some of the ladies here dont mind.

    There is also a kink factor involed. Lesbian action in a FFM situation is "fake" lesbian sex. In the sense that the girls may like to play with girls, but they are not really true lesbians. The girls are straight but will "experiment" only when it comes to sex. Because if the two girls decided to have a real relationship, the fantasy, or the fun would be over.

    If men really wanted to watch real lesbian go at it, wouldnt there be a bigger sales in that area of porn? I mean, real lesbians. Not the ones who just switch sides to make the video.

    So its the kink, not the realitly. Besides, porn is fantasy anyway.

    One more thing. I imagine its the same kind of turn on that gay guys get from "converting" a straight guy. Its like such a thrill to take a "straight" guy and get him to experiment. Then he will, but he is not really gay. :rolleyes:
    I get this from all the threads here about this.
     
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    Intersting, (though I missed it at the time) this is from the guy who thinks you can't be a real man unless you fuck pussy. I'm begining to see a pattern here... and it's "repulsive".
     
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    Value judgements apart it is just as natural for a straight guy to feel repulsed by man-on-man action as it is for a gay guy to be attracted by it. It is not a CHOICE anybody makes.

    That natural repulsion It is undoubtedly the underlying drive behind the persection of homosexuals through the ages and in unenlightened societies today. The difference in our society is that no negative value is (should be) inferred by this feeling of "repulsion". AND most straight people even slightly broadminded (read "liberal") soon find that the repulsion wears off, -through desensitisation.

    Flame if you must but its a fact of nature.

    The reason for the perceived prejudice of against MMF as opposed to FFM is obvious. When you watch you subconsciously feel what it is like. The straight guy watching two women have sex gets to feel what it is like to be the woman with her face in the other womans crotch, which is very arousing to him. Any guy on guy contact is off-putting. There are more straight people that gay so FFM would be more popular.

    Plus, -a lot of straight guys are put off by anal sex of any kind.
     
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    I prefer mfm (but the guys have to be straight)
     
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    i don't have any 'real' answers to your real questions here, i too wonder why there's double standards on so many things, why showing a penis is so fucking taboo but we will show women entirely nude all the time, why showing 'graphic' sex is 'perverted' but war movies are 'educational', the list goes on and on

    the only thing i could possibly offer is i'm a 'straight' man and sure, i think two women pleasing each other is hot, i find that some groupings of two guys are ALSO hot, 3ways anyway are universally almost always hot, i'd only say that asking why some stereotypes exist by reinforcing other stereotypes (all straight men think this way or that) doesn't get much of anywhere too fast

    btw, post the link to the two slim burnettes with lone dude stroking, that is hot to me!!
     
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    Well, I find women attractive. So when two women are making out and having sex with each other, what isn't attractive about it?
     
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    When it comes to threesomes, I would much prefer MMM.
     
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    actually, its not to all of us
     
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    No. No I don't have that fantasy. But you've missed what I'm trying to get at (as Tripod put so intelligently). Why must there be a "bad kind" of threesome (MMF) according to the prevailing thinking in this society and a "good kind" of threesome (MFF).

    Gay men are being marginalized by subliminal societal influence. It's blatant as all hell to me but from the average Joe I hear "oh two women having sex with each other in front of a guy isn't gay. They're lesbians."

    Ummmmmmmmmmm ... what?? :eek:

    Seems to me since hetero males appear to continue to set the sexual standard by only what pleases them (by-in-large with wonderful exceptions like drifterwood and tripod) that the encouragement lies in what stimulates the hetero male only when it seems that those same hetero males (again by-in-large) have an utter inability to accept that other people's sexuality dictates different stimuli.

    In my view it's truly one dimensional thinking of the most self-serving order.

    It's not difficult to understand. But the notion of a hetero man (not that it's anything that I would impose on others) having sex with two women is equally repulsive to me as a gay man. Why is that so difficult to understand Nekoman?

    And as for this "gay men getting a straight man in bed" thrill one poster suggested... Do you actually think we're out there trolling for straight dudes?? Hell admit it or not sexually you guys (dammit it's true) are easy. That's no big whoop. Generally speaking the difference (of course ONLY in my experience) between a straight male and a gay one is six pints of lager in the UK and a six pack of Budweiser in the U.S. I've been down that road. It's just all such bullshit especially when so many purportedly heterosexual men would never admit to adolescent sexual experimentation with their same sex on pain of death... yet statistically it's much more prevalent than adolescent girls "playing doctor". Ain't no girls in a circle jerk.:rolleyes:

    Women in their twenties with whom I've spoken invariably (since I ask) when asked "do you allow another women into your bed with your boyfriend?" say one of two things:

    1) I have but only to please him
    2) I told him I would if he'd allow another man into our bed

    Seems pretty clear.



    As BigDallasDick8X6 put it.. I was referring to a woman's vagina and her anus. Seems piggy somehow to me. The mouth was NOT the second orifice to which I referred in my OP.

    The notion (sorry gotta say it) of this double-dipping shit with two men with a penis in one woman's vagina and the other in her ass is a form of sexual abuse. It's dominance at its very worst.

    Sheesh guys... isn't the proximity of another cock in the "double dip" a bit too close for comfort? Won't you be "repulsed"???:rolleyes:

    I hear that Flordia Boy.:cool:

    See people... it's time we levelled the playing field. The two consenting adults rule (or three or four) irrespective of gender should apply across the board.
     
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