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It's also emotional immaturity though. Some guy will post "my neighbor has me beat by a quarter inch - will my wife leave me?" It's like how can you be so inept? It's obvious that your years of togetherness and everything you've built up with that person are not going to be jeopardized by something so trivial.
Do you ever get the feeling some are so desperate to be open-minded that they'll believe anything? Maybe they're afraid of not knowing as much as they should so they blindly believe anything they read or hear? To be fair, it takes time to learn how to discern good advice from misinformation, but yeah, some things are just plain common sense.
Since I'm not in a good place with my SO, I will just say that I'm grateful to be a fairly well-rounded person. But being in the know is always beneficial in any relationship and will be in any future ones I'm in. At least I'll know that her height has nothing to do with her vaginal capacity. :biggrin1:
You've discovered it's her body frame and weight? :tongue:
 

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How people evolve towards one another and shed background baggage of half truths and assumptions are what sex and living with someone is. What you knew when you were eighteen is now so far from what you know about yourself and sexuality that it often hurts to recall how you thought anf felt.
 

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Huh?? Expound please...not fully followin' this thread.:confused:

Keep reading. I explained myself a little better in later posts. Hopefully.

How people evolve towards one another and shed background baggage of half truths and assumptions are what sex and living with someone is. What you knew when you were eighteen is now so far from what you know about yourself and sexuality that it often hurts to recall how you thought anf felt.

I think that varies from person to person. I knew a lot about sex at eighteen but that's because it was most interesting to me and I knew my physical and sexual self well even at a young age. I learned more as the years passed but much of that was due to more concrete education and expanded, uh, repertoire. I've been surprised to find how much good advice there is on a site like this. It's just that the misinformation is often so appallingly bad that the contrast is unmistakable.
 

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Well, as i do, you call on it if it seems a bit absurd. Or dangerously ignorant.

The line of "I can't get AIDS" was given to me by a very young man whose hormones overruled his sensibilities and would allow himself to be barebacked by anyone. Sadly, attempts to tell him otherwise were brushed off.

And there's a lot of hormones on exhibit here. Some of it good, some of it compulsive obsessive and some of it innocent of experience (I seem to have had that).
 

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I was talking with No_Strings and he said something I thought was quite profound:

Not sure how profound a hastily written, typo-ridden, ponderingism/wonderment on Yahoo is. :tongue:

"Two things about lpsg: 1) I hate the truly sexually ignorant which, unfortunately, is a mighty high percentage of people IRL, and 2) it makes me appreciate what we have, in and out of the boudoir, so much more. When people link to all these 'documentaries' I just get pissed off. Annoyed at the shit people believe, and the shit others try to persuade people into believing"

Perhaps I should clarify; what I meant is tied in with this:

But N_S likened it to Cassandra in greek mythology. Cursed with knowledge she cannot impart because no one will believe her.

Mention of Cassandra Syndrome was more of an analogy than anything; I often feel internal conflict over which emotion is stronger - incredulous disgust at the willful(?) ignorance of some, or the anger at the futility of trying to enlighten 'the masses'.

I don't know. Should my feeling be directed at the parents for sheltering their children so much? Teachers for omitting everything but the bare biological necessities? Fundementalists for downright lying to their children?
Diagnosing whether lack of information by one group is better/worse than misinformation by another group seems pointless, as one may counteract the other and it is the decision of the child(or adult) in question over which source to believe.

Perhaps those questions are redudant, as ones own curiosity is the key to insight on any given topic.
I myself took the time and made the effort to learn about all things carnal from a relatively young age, though initially it was not to simply advance my knowledge but rather to prepare myself to be a better lover for my eventual partner. I'm increasingly disheartened to find that is not a particularly common practice as a teen.

I mean ten years ago it was, what? 'You can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up' and 'cling-film is an adequate substitute for a condom'.

Now it's things like(recalling recent headlines from fark.com): 'drinking bleach can protect you from AIDS' and 'drinking Mountain Dew will prevent pregnancy'.

I can still remember being the awe of my six-year-old peers because I knew what 'twat' and 'fuck' meant. I expected that void in sexual awareness to drastically decrease as I got older but sadly it hasn't.

Personally, I know there is much to learn and no threshold for knowledge of sex, anatomy, biology & the like but I yearn to explore of much of it as I can during my lifetime.
Being only 19, it upsets me how little many people seem to know about the overall subject of 'sex' and whilst I fully acknowledge I am far from an authoritative voice on the matter, I would still be confident that I know more on the subject than a vast majority of the population. I'm not bragging - I'm pitying. :redface:

Is this elitist or arrogant of me? If so, is it even unwarranted?
Is it wrong of me to feel better about myself and my relationship after reading about those less aware and more narrow-minded(self-inflicted or otherwise)?

I'm really not trying to sound arrogant or condescending - should I simply try and accept that my expectations and limitations are much higher than those of others, despite my not seeing it that way?

So do you find yourself cherishing what you have with your SO more after reading through some of the garbage posted here?

As you know, I do. I grow increasingly grateful at how open-minded, patient and well-informed you are. :hug:

:lmao: @ 'boudoir'

I said bedroom. Missy here misquoted me. :biggrin:

I think that sexual ignorance can be remedied by actually knowing that you don't know things about sex. Then, seeking for the logical gaps of knowledge and finding the truths out.

I concur(see my sig :tongue:). Ignorance is in no way a crime, but perhaps assumption of heightened awareness should be? Is there a kind(read: politically correct :rolleyes:) way to tell people, "You don't know shit"?

Yes, there are staggering numbers of people who are ignorant of the anatomy, physiology, psychology, neurology, and sociology of human sexuality.

That's precisely what I was trying to convey. Does it not annoy you, anger you or frustrate you?

Again, I was referring more the distinction between truth and fiction, not fantasy, which is something else entirely

Indeed. I believe that we've backpedalled so far that many don't even know there is a distinction, let alone where exactly it is.

The amount of urban-legend type stuff that goes on here is staggering. I find it really hard to believe that a lot of the people posting on this forum are of legal age. I'm constantly thinking "how can you not know this?" Some of the questions here would've been reasonable a hundred years ago, but with the wealth of information that everyone has access to on a daily basis these days, it's baffling that people still don't seem to know their head from their ass.

That's a large part of exactly what I mean. Teenage, myspace mythology that we all know and love such as 'the 'dirty sanchez', 'white dragon' and donkey punch' et al, but the misinformation seems to be getting more dangerous and more widespread - like a worldwide chinese whisper written in textspeak that nobody, authority figure or otherwise, seems to be able to dispel.

It's also emotional immaturity though. Some guy will post "my neighbor has me beat by a quarter inch - will my wife leave me?" It's like how can you be so inept? It's obvious that your years of togetherness and everything you've built up with that person are not going to be jeopardized by something so trivial.

But this one time, in a porno I saw...

And if you are talking about stuff like sexual folklore where, "If you jump up and down after intercourse, you will not get pregnant." "AIDS won't happen to me, I live in a rural area." or A big man has big feet." ...and like that?

Those kind of things were the reason for my initial offhand comment that mercurialbliss posted.

N_S! Help! SOS! ...---... :biggrin1:

...-.

Yes, and I didnt want to imply that all people in relationships have a leg up on sexual education because that's not always true. Same can be said for age and number of previous partners. Older and/or more partners does not necessarily equal proper education or experience.

Very true, I should emphasise this point myself.

you two are already taken, so the pool is just that much smaller. :kiss:

Schwing! :wink:

Do you ever get the feeling some are so desperate to be open-minded that they'll believe anything? Maybe they're afraid of not knowing as much as they should so they blindly believe anything they read or hear? To be fair, it takes time to learn how to discern good advice from misinformation, but yeah, some things are just plain common sense.

I think it's more simple than that. Could it even just boil down to lack of intelligence(not necessarily academia)?

How people evolve towards one another and shed background baggage of half truths and assumptions are what sex and living with someone is. What you knew when you were eighteen is now so far from what you know about yourself and sexuality that it often hurts to recall how you thought anf felt.

Perhaps I am an anomaly in that respect then and my whole perspective is based on my own presumptions. :tongue:


As you were...
 

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Of the headlines and urban legends mentioned, I think most of them are meant to be tongue-in-cheek and not be taken seriously. Although I will admit quite a few people believe in them, some partially or momentarily and some for their whole lives. I don't think its to do specifically with 'sexual' ignorance so much as it relates to general stupidity/lack of education amongst the masses (read: chavs) of society.

As for the question: No LPSG does not make me cherish the relationship that I have, since I view LPSG as a strange microcosm, almost as a parallel universe. A twilight zone of the digital age.

LPSG does however make me glad that I don't come on here pretending to be a woman or some other crazy shit.

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Well, from the other side, from the "good" posts that I read, I realize how much I miss having a significant other that I really cared about. :redface:
Ditto


The amount of urban-legend type stuff that goes on here is staggering. I find it really hard to believe that a lot of the people posting on this forum are of legal age. I'm constantly thinking "how can you not know this?"
I know exactly what you mean and I often wish I could reach through the computer and dope slap the people who ask some of those incredibly stupid questions.
Some of the questions here would've been reasonable a hundred years ago, but with the wealth of information that everyone has access to on a daily basis these days, it's baffling that people still don't seem to know their head from their ass.
:rofl: I agree, it's amazing that some people can be so naive or just stupid is scary.



It's also emotional immaturity though. Some guy will post "my neighbor has me beat by a quarter inch - will my wife leave me?" It's like how can you be so inept?[/quote]
I think you mean insecure not inept. But yes, those guys are annoying to me as well.


It's obvious that your years of togetherness and everything you've built up with that person are not going to be jeopardized by something so trivial.



Since I'm not in a good place with my SO, I will just say that I'm grateful to be a fairly well-rounded person. But being in the know is always beneficial in any relationship and will be in any future ones I'm in. At least I'll know that her height has nothing to do with her vaginal capacity. :biggrin1:
Sorry to hear things aren't going well with your current SO. :frown1: You seem like a decent guy even though I don't always agree with you. :cool: I have no doubt you will find the right woman for you. :smile:
 

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i am not irritated with some of the ignorance that come here at all.
i expect it here,at the store,at the post office,everywhere that the
popular belief is that jesus christ is god.
what is YHVH or adonai what was the idea behind uriel?
no christian on the norm can answer these questions.

the hexagram is a sex magick symbol used as a mandala.
jesus was a jew and was using all of the esoteric teachings of judaism
to reach the levels of astral awareness that he surpassed.
you can expect ignorance of this...alot of it.

a few have made me feel like shit for liking rope and that is fine.
i understand how it appears qliphotic to those that do not understand it.

i see alot of children being lied too by moms and dads.
they grow up to be moms and dads,and raise the child the same.
this is the churches doing,from my experience everyone loves jesus' censored words.

so many people are very unaware of the healing available through
body energy and sexual orgasms. (orgone)
this is why i think Freud and Wilhelm reich were gonzo on sex.
and also seen as a JOKE by popular media,run by the jesuits and zionists
as a way of forming the minds of nations through egotism,money and consumerism.

everyone is too busy "being successful" to enjoy what the success brings.
this breeds true ignorance,someone here has a signature that says
"cynicism is the nasty by product of lack of experience"
or something like that,

this is what the church and popular belief does
to alot of us.
everyone is a cynic and it creates alot of irrational tensions.
the deprivation from orgone makes men and women cynical.

true sucess,imo is being able to control yourself enough to see past
any illusions that are put in your way to divert you from
your true will...not a car house and a job that can be destroyed
in a matter of minutes.

woah...i ranted.:wink:
 

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Is this elitist or arrogant of me? If so, is it even unwarranted?
Is it wrong of me to feel better about myself and my relationship after reading about those less aware and more narrow-minded(self-inflicted or otherwise)?
No, it is not elitist or arrogant. I am frequently astounded at how little people know about their own bodies, and the bodies of those they find attractive, and how little people in general know about one of the things they claim to like the best (sex). It's kind of depressing, actually, to think of how many people would fail a chapter test in Human Sexual Anatomy 101.

I've taken some heat in many threads for trying to dispel some "urban legend" thinking. I've been accused of being "too pedantic" or "knowing nothing at all." I even started a thread a couple of years back, expressing my frustration, and wishing that people would take a class, or read a (reputable) book, or anything, to get some factual knowledge.
That's precisely what I was trying to convey. Does it not annoy you, anger you or frustrate you?
It frustrates me that so many people lack even the most basic understanding, and it annoys me when others intentionally pass off erroneous or even dangerous "advice."

Regardless of the claims of firsthand experience, I refuse to believe that any man routinely penetrates any woman's cervix with his penis during sex. It just does NOT happen, but we have periodic claims that it does. A healthy vagina does not "get all stretched out" from sex with a large penis (yes, it obviously does stretch during sex, but it doesn't stay stretched out.)

These kinds of misinformation, and many others, hit the boards from time to time, and I just shake my head and wonder how some of these people keep from drowning in the shower.
 

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While shaving the hair off of my right palm the other day . . . no, really, I'm quite in agreement with being annoyed regarding the ignorance factor that seems in play on this site. I had originally hoped LPSG was a place where one could actually share and find reliable information regarding the problems of having a big dick. But that delusion has long since evaporated.

However, even worse, is discovering that when LPSG-ers are confronted with the accounts of others' real life experiences, the kind we should be able to learn from, how many are so closed-minded and unwilling to acknowledge the truth in those factual accounts and acknowledge the reality from which those experiences originated only to make some ill-conceived recursive syllogistic non-logic that let's them continue to comfortably hide in a cloud of wrongful group-think.