Sexual Trends in Modern Day USA

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    As my very first thread here, I wanted to pose the question in what you believe the porn industry demonstrates about the current trends in sexual conduct within our modern day society, here in the USA.

    The porn industry has, perhaps, been the most reliable objective way to measure the pulse of society when it comes to acceptable sexual conduct within our society, even if such is not outwardly spoken about.

    Keep in mind that "sexual conduct" is inherently and completely separate from that of a person's actual "sexuality," as one can engage in same sex sexual acts and still be heterosexual, or heterosexual sexual conduct and still be gay.

    The defining line in this is that "sexual conduct" is merely used as a means to fulfill the physical need to get off, whereas "sexuality" encompasses the emotional elements and humanistic desires to have something more meaningful and deeper, such as a relationship or marriage.

    To this end, I believe the porn industry shows an upward trend in accepting sexual conduct that years past was considered extremely taboo and sociably unacceptable.

    Whether or not the movie "Brokeback Mountain" aided the porn industry in what movies to produce, what appears to be the case is that there is more acceptance in bisexual porn movies. Years ago, finding such movies was extremely difficult because the porn industry simply refused to endorce (by way of making such movies) that bisexual sexual conduct was acceptable, since members of the general public were unwilling to openly acknowledge that this class of sexuality existed. Now, we are finding a substantially increasing amount of such movies and Internet sites, and as such, it appears to indicate that society (in particular that of men, who have traditionally been the dominating buyers of porn) is far more accepting of bisexuality than it use to be.

    Interestingly enough, we are also seeing an increase in the numbe of web sites where heterosexual men are posting their own nude photo's for the public to see. Knowing full well that gay and bisexual men are also viewing their photo's and becomming sexually arroused, as a direct or proximate result. To-wit, raises the question if str8 men post their nude photo's as a sexual turn on, in part, because they know other men are also sexually interested.

    Likewise, we are also beginning to see a particularly interesting seires of porn specifically geared towards using claimed heterosexual males to engage in "innocent" sexual acts with other men, such as StraightCollegeMen, Next Door Buddies, Next Door Male and so forth. In these series, alleged str8 guys are paid money to engage in sexual acts with other men on the premise that they are financailly broke enough that they are willing to sell out their alleged morals and beliefs to make a buck through same sex sexual acts.

    Additionally, web sites like sleepingmen and Bait Bus, are taking the concept of performing [fantasy] sexual acts on heterosexual men who are sleeping or are otherwise unsuspecting that they are being subjected to male on male sexual acts, to create one of the hottest and most revolutionary concepts of porn in our 21st Centry.

    The reason that these movies and Internet sites are so hot and revolutionary is because traditionally it has been only females who were used as the target of [fantasy] rape porn. Hence, by taking the "mocho male" ego and image and reducing men to being the targets of [fantasy] sexual assault / rape, the viewing audiance is able to live out a new kind of fantasy that is sure to bring explosive organisms to many.

    But male on male rape is certainly nothing new in our world history; in the Greek era male warriors would often rape their enemies as a sign of conquest, and a King who was rapped, and in particularly subjected to anal intercorse, was no longer permitted to be King. And in the Roman Empire era, those in the Roman army who committed adulty were subject to male on male gangbangs by their fellow men in arms, as punishment for their crime of adulty. Likewise, in the Greek era, it was seen as acceptable for an adult male to take on a male lover who was a child or teenager because the role of the adult was not only about being their lover but also that of their teacher / father figure, and with this, came the responsibility of teaching their lover how to be a functioning part of their society in pro social manners that made their community a better place to live. And in our modern day society, male on male rape is most predominate among the homeless population and prison inmates.

    So the fact that we are beginning to see an upward trend in porn movies that use the claimed heterosexual male participant in the role of the victim for the [fantasy] sexual assault of another man, raises the question if society is again chaning it's views in what is and is not acceptable sexual conduct, porn movies and Internet sites.
     
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    I think the current 'trends' in sexual behaviour aren't a result of the porn industry, but that the porn industry is a result of the normal working classes having much more leisure time than ever before. Throughout the ages it's been fairly normal that the upper classes and the rich had sex lives that weren't representative of the norm, now we have more leisure time and one of the ways we use that leisure time is to spend more time having sex. Sexual behaviour escalates so it gets kinkier. Both the porn industry and the current overweening interest in sex are a result of more free time, it isn't the porn industry that's conceived the current interest in sex but vice versa, the larger amount of time we devote to sex has spawned the porn industry.
     
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    Let us also not forget, Princess and Rodeo, that the Internet enables people to have access to materials that would have been amazingly hard to come by or downright incriminating for anyone who has...interesting pecadillos, in the past. In a way, "addiciton" to porn is much easier today due to the easy access and lack of contact with another human distributor who one might feel ashamed or embarrassed to approach for fetish or homo or misogynistic adult materials. The flesh always wants more and more, which usually leads to deeper and deeper and more intense forms of entertainment. Who starts out looking at or getting turned-on by amputees having sex with animals?

    I don't really think an industry that makes its profits from stimulaitng the erotic nature of humans can be called "objective," btw. :cool:
     
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    First, I am not saying the porn industry "sets" the trend in sexual behaviors for society but rather is certainly a reflection of what the societal trends are. Of course, it is certainly reasonable to say there is a certain degree of truth that the porn industry can influence the "trends" to some degree by the kinds of movies, mag's and Internet web sites produced.

    Secondly, because the porn industry is wholly dependant upon members of society buying such, whether in the form of movies, mag's or Internet, it is an objective way to measure the trends since sales clearly depict what society wants. Thus, by examining annual percentages in what is and is not sold and to what degree, one can accuartely gain insight into the sexual trends of society far more than any survey would show.
     
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    When it comes to the porn industry 95% of the time art imitates life. Art is italicized as I don't view porn as art; but y'all know what I mean. The porn industry responds to, and imitates what is going on in the world.
     
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    Precisely and for which is what I was saying in that the porn industry shows us the trends of sexual conduct in our society. The industry does not necessarily set the trends but it does demonstrate what people are interested in buying and watching and therein what sexual conduct trends exist. As such, my original question stands in what folks believe the trends are that currently exist within our socieyt, as demonstrated by the porn industry.

    I previously pointed out one such trend that I see rising in that of using the "mocho male" as a targeted victim for sexual conduct. Traditionally, it has been the female that played this role in porn movies but now, we are seeing porn that turns the tables on a class of people (men) who have inherently believed themselves to be beyond reporach in having forced sexual encounters.
     
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    Maybe...or maybe not.

    Your scenario could just be examples of the Frequency Illusion fallacy or the Recency Illusion fallacy. Sometimes things that seem to be statistics shows just ain't so.

    Though it would be interesting if such research were conducted. I'd think it would be most helpful if it ran decades long - similar to the way the Framington Study has been going over several generations in tracking health.
     
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    Indeed, it would be very interesting and certainly revealing to say the least.
     
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    This thread is based on anecdotal observations, though certainly
    interesting ones. I agree that it would be an interesting research topic. Any college students here want to tackle it?

    I wish I could contribute but I think the porn being discussed here is really not anything I'm familiar with. But it is intriguing to consider the internet as a force in breaking down social moors and taboos around sexuality. The US could certainly use that, regardless of where it comes from in my opinion.
     
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    Here's an example that to me is interesting & says a lot about our culture. When Ted Haggart the rightwing christian minister got busted for paying for sex from a gay escort, peeps on my campus didn't think it was a big thing. They were more surprised that he was buying & doing crstal meth. "So are conservative christians into speed?" lol.
     
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    BDSM has become very popular amongst mainstream people in America. You would be shocked to know how many soccer moms are building dungeons in their basements and walk-in closets.

    Until somewhat recently, spitting in orifices was a homosexual not a heterosexual thing.

    CFNM - Clothed Female Nude Male

    Men may be seen in more subservient/victim like roles than before; but the stuff they are doing to women these days is just gross and disgusting.

    The fish hook
    A2M - Ass to Mouth
    being forced to lick cum off the floor, or slurp it out of a champagne glass. :frown1::eek::mad:
     
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    I do not dispute that there is a broad range of porn subject matter material existing that can give us invaluable insight into the sexual trends within the U.S.. The example I give is merely just one illustration and important enough because it dares to tred on territory that has, until recently, been unexplored.

    Think about it, Mr. Mocho Man, who prides himself in being a man and able to pick up any female he wants for sex is now the target of sexual victimization by another man. In other words, its' a concept that gives men a dose of their own medicine in a [tiny] way that many (but not all) men have commonly treated women. And it sends a lound message that men are not immune from such treatment no matter how strong they are what kind of "mocho" image they try to portray to the rest of society because at the end of the day, when they are asleep or are easily conned, they are just as easily victimized as the females that many men have victimized themselves.

    Now, is this a reflection of actual real-to-live sexual conduct trends within the U.S., well to a marginal degree I think it very well may be; it's just something that really is not spoken about within our society because men do not want to be seen as anything other than a mocho man. After all, a man who is rapped or otherwise sexually assaulted is far - far less likely to make any mention about it than a female would be inclinded because our police and judicial systems are simply not prone to address such issues, violations, and complaints from any one other than females, children and adults who where molested as children but providing that these male adults fit into some high profile case such as we saw with the Catholic Church.

    What is for sure is that the porn industry financial profits would not exist if not for the countless of thousands of people buying their product. This occurs only because the movie, mag or Internet site generally tends to mirror the sexual desires and / or actual conduct of the people buying this material, whether in a retail store or on the Internet.
     
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    I won't really argue the point with you, but I'll ask a question: what about the people who look at the porn out of curiosity or for vicarious enjoyment? Is it possible that they never do most or any of the things they look at?

    Sorry, I got taken to the last post and didn't realize there had been numerous ones previous to that one... Still, I think we do have a broadening, probably a healthy one, of what is acceptable for OTHERS to do, but many of us still don't see ourselves doing those things...
     
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    The OP is written with intelligence but from what is, in my opinion, a naive perspective about porn, especially gay porn and most especially bisexual porn.

    I have been an avid consumer of porn since the 1970s in all its scope and variety. As the preponderance of gay porn as always been focused on "beautiful young men" (what are called twinks today) either masturbating or engaging in vanilla sex, it's never really done much of anything for me.

    Watching two willowy, fey, anemic 19-year-olds blow each other lazily just never floated my boat. There is little tension and no surprise when one of them flips his skinny legs in the air and offers up a bony ass. Indeed the only surprise is that they got one of these wretches to top at all.

    I have always preferred straight porn. The guys have always had more of an edge and, incidentally, usually show more enthusiasm, than their gay-porn counterparts. And the action (in what is and was usually most widely available) more interesting, varied and more athletic. Even at its most banal, straight porn has always been better produced than gay porn, too.

    Before VCRs and video stores I had two options in porn: magazines and movie theaters. But as jerking off in your seat at a movie theater was considered bad form, most of those places were really just cruising spots where most of the real action took place in the bathrooms, up in the balcony or off-site. Magazines were for private enjoyment, mostly, and ranged from relatively commercial ventures like After Dark (which featured dancers in the spreads and long articles on opera) to Blueboy or Mandate (very twinky) which were available at convenience stores next to Playboy (at least in Boston).

    Glossy magazines without ads (usually all black and white) were very expensive for my teenaged budget and available at sex shops. They usually had themes and consisted of thirty or forty pages of cut and paste layouts. Depending on the theme the pix could range from solos to hardcore. MMF or group themes almost always had a bisexual subtext and occasionally explicitly bisexual content.

    Boston had an entire district (called The Combat Zone) of strip joints, bookshops, peep booths and porn theaters where anything short of kiddie porn and bestiality could be browsed and/or purchased. I have yet to see anything on the web that couldn't be found in one of these magazines, from gangbangs and multiple penetration to straight-man "seduction". In fact, there was a category of ultra-hardcore BDSM/fetish stuff that is still not available in the big "Adult Superstores" down here in Florida (although everything's available on the web).

    When the "VCR Revolution" brought a flood of porn produced on videotape (as opposed to film) the quality and variety actually decreased for the most part. Laziness and lack of imagination from porn producers and pressures from Washington curtailed what was available, at least from American companies. But there were plenty of bisexual titles such as Bisexual Fantasies and Bi Bi Love. There was even an entire series called Bi and Beyond that supposedly featured a hermaphrodite.

    Likewise the whole gay-for-pay thing is nothing new. Most of the old Athletic Modeling Guild guys were presumed straight, as were the models in all those Old Reliable mags and vids. As a gay porn concept, it is as old as porn itself. Most of the big names in tops from the beginning have been marketed as straight. Kristen Bjorn has always claimed that the majority of his performers are straight-identified. The gay-for-pay pretext presumes a seduction, if only for money. Toying with a straight guy while he's sleeping is old hat, too.

    None of the participants I've seen at sites like Active Duty, AOL Marines (most of the Bobby Garcia military material is at least 15 years old, BTW) or All-American Heroes are raped, or even coerced. They are obviously sporting erections and their distaste, though perhaps genuine, is usually exaggerated for the camera. The principle source of "seduction" is money, not anyone's stray hand.

    Why this endures as a gay porn paradigm is not the topic of this thread, so I'll not bother with an opinion in that regard beyond saying that porn needs to have an element of surprise to be really hot. Sometimes the surprise is who is being photographed, sometimes the surprise is what they are photographed doing.
     
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