Shawn Mendes

[deleted1194034]

“I became a bit of a politician at a young age with my words, and the problem with that was that I wasn’t standing for much. Most of the time I would weasel my way out of any question that made me uncomfortable.”

It is funny, I say: here you are talking now about your lack of authenticity in the past, but the one thing you were accused of faking was your relationship with Camila, which is real. “There was a desperation for me to come out as being gay, which is such a ridiculous thing. I got upset because I know people who are gay who haven’t come out and I know the suffering they experience because of that. It’s just completely ignorant and insensitive of people to be on that shit.”

Shawn Mendes: 'The fear strangled me. I really fell down'

What a refreshing interviewer... really cut through some bullshit and fluff.

So he gets asked about authenticity in his relationship and his follow-up response is about being gay?? He is seriously triggered about his sexual identity. If he’s not a closet case, I’ve never EVER seen someone so insecure and hung up about being labeled. My god.

Article is definitely worth a read.

 

[duhaldista]

“I became a bit of a politician at a young age with my words, and the problem with that was that I wasn’t standing for much. Most of the time I would weasel my way out of any question that made me uncomfortable.”

It is funny, I say: here you are talking now about your lack of authenticity in the past, but the one thing you were accused of faking was your relationship with Camila, which is real. “There was a desperation for me to come out as being gay, which is such a ridiculous thing. I got upset because I know people who are gay who haven’t come out and I know the suffering they experience because of that. It’s just completely ignorant and insensitive of people to be on that shit.”

Shawn Mendes: 'The fear strangled me. I really fell down'

How does he "know people who are gay who haven’t come out" if they haven't actually come out?How does he knows they are gay?

How does he "know the suffering they experience because of that" if they don't talk about it because they haven't even come out on the first place?

Maybe he's talking about himself?

 

[Sanny88]

He is/was most likely talking about his manager, who recently came out. Thing is, he has a habit of speaking about others' experiences to promote himself such as with his trans friend Teddy.

He just needs to drop the gay subject or talk about himself instead of deflecting with an answer about how he is the one taking a stand for others, cause it ain't cute.

But anyway, the interview just seems like an attempt to tackle how people are perceiving him and yet.. he kind of does the same thing again by not sounding genuine

 

[BadMan125]

What a refreshing interviewer... really cut through some bullshit and fluff.

So he gets asked about authenticity in his relationship and his follow-up response is about being gay?? He is seriously triggered about his sexual identity. If he’s not a closet case, I’ve never EVER seen someone so insecure and hung up about being labeled. My god.

Article is definitely worth a read.

Lemme guess he doesn't like being called straight either? I guess I can kinda get where he's coming from but he's having a hard time to explain it.

 

[BadMan125]

I love that Shawn doesn’t care if his album does well, now that’s he’s made enough money so it doesn’t matter if his album does well. Lol.

I honestly don’t get who this new persona is appealing to. He’s saying his old persona was too focused on fame and his fans, cares little about what fans think of his music or personal life. Like I get that fame when you’re young his hard and as an artist you have to work through that but damn if this time in history is spectacularly the wrong time to do it.

If he didn't care for the fame or fans, he'd be stopping this PR madness now but he comes off real inauthentic. Lemme read this interview.

 

[Andrewtoo]

What a refreshing interviewer... really cut through some bullshit and fluff.

So he gets asked about authenticity in his relationship and his follow-up response is about being gay?? He is seriously triggered about his sexual identity. If he’s not a closet case, I’ve never EVER seen someone so insecure and hung up about being labeled. My god.

Article is definitely worth a read.

Uhhh straight celebrities can be as insecure as anyone.

 

[edudorado]

Uhhh straight celebrities can be as insecure as anyone.

Straight people insecure with their sexuality??
Can you give me some names, please...

 

[BadMan125]

Insecure straight men are usually insecure about the person they're with lol

Kinda like Blake Shelton... just halfway kidding.

The interview is kinda reminding me of George Michael and his thoughts about his career after he reached the top.

 

[Andrewtoo]

Insecure straight men are usually insecure about the person they're with lol

This is where the common wisdom is completely wrong. Straight men, especially artists, can be as insecure as anyone. See: the leader of the free world. Especially if their bodies are part of their livelihood. See: fashion models.

 

[Andrewtoo]

Straight people insecure with their sexuality??
Can you give me some names, please...

Try developing adult friendships with straight people.

 

[BadMan125]

This is where the common wisdom is completely wrong. Straight men, especially artists, can be as insecure as anyone. See: the leader of the free world. Especially if their bodies are part of their livelihood. See: fashion models.

Oh no he's insecure about that. I don't think he's happy with Camila. I really don't. I just don't buy it. It feels too much of a put on like Blake and Gwen. It's like when a label pairs you up even if you desire another person. Like if Shawn had his eyes set on another woman but was told Camila would add to his reputation and he went for it. He's obviously insecure about things in general. This is a dude who at 14 wrote in his diary that he was gonna sell out stadiums over and over again and now that he's done it, he realizes he's not fulfilled.

 

[GiamaniDera]

“I became a bit of a politician at a young age with my words, and the problem with that was that I wasn’t standing for much. Most of the time I would weasel my way out of any question that made me uncomfortable.”

It is funny, I say: here you are talking now about your lack of authenticity in the past, but the one thing you were accused of faking was your relationship with Camila, which is real. “There was a desperation for me to come out as being gay, which is such a ridiculous thing. I got upset because I know people who are gay who haven’t come out and I know the suffering they experience because of that. It’s just completely ignorant and insensitive of people to be on that shit.”

Shawn Mendes: 'The fear strangled me. I really fell down'

I don’t get why yall are getting so much Mis-direct from this.

I don’t personally think he has any problem with his sexuality, I think the issue is more so than SO many fans / observers like to comment and micro nitpick at his every move, every relationship, every word, and go as far as to call him a closet case, to the extent that he has to come out and literally say the same old tired line that he’s not, and defend himself, when he shouldn’t have to.

he shouldn’t have to defend himself in any decision he takes, and it’s not up to anyone else but his hand is forced. How would you like it if you were anything other than gay, but EVERYONE kept gossiping about the fact you are, or could be, or should be? You’d get tired of it, and want to defend yourself. But when he does, he gets accused further.

Just let the guy be, I don’t get the fixation of trying to out celebrities or force narrative that they’re gay when they’re not, or that a tiny motion means their in the closet just so someone can have a sexual fantasy over it. It’s weird.

 

[deleted1194034]

C’mon... no one is saying straight men can’t be insecure or vulnerable... but we’re talking specifically about sexuality. NO straight celebrity/artist is as fixated about their public perception of sexual identity as Shawn. NO ONE. Shawn brings up this issue time and time again unprompted, dating back to his infamous “I’m not gay” Snapchat in 2016. And in interviews he’s not even asked about his sexuality, but he’ll still bring the subject up because of how anxious ridden he is on the subject.

The easy explanation is that he is closeted, but hell, there are plenty of closeted celebrities that deal with sexuality rumors with way more grace and with way less discussion on how much anxiety it might cause them. How he doesn’t have a coherent answer on his identity (AFTER 55+ SELF-HELP BOOKS!!) is beyond me—just say “sexuality is personal and no ones business” or simply “fuck off” if/when asked. But, lots of gay men know exactly where that anxiety comes from and how it can manifest into irrational behavior—fears of being outed can be overwhelming for some.

 

[deleted1194034]

I don’t get why yall are getting so much Mis-direct from this.
How would you like it if you were anything other than gay, but EVERYONE kept gossiping about the fact you are, or could be, or should be? You’d get tired of it, and want to defend yourself. But when he does, he gets accused further.

It’s more about how he addresses it (again often unprompted). Look at Harry Styles... he was RELENTLESSLY assumed gay or in a secret relationship with Louis, like way more than anything Shawn has experienced. And did it get under his skin, it did, but he learned to just say fuck off, sexuality is a private thing and say no more on the subject... furthermore he would go and bang every model and startlet, but not parade his relationship about like he was trying to prove people wrong. My point is, Shawn is not unique in being labeled gay by fans or gossip magazines, however he is unique in the messy anxiety ridden way he deals with that perception.

 

[edudorado]

Try developing adult friendships with straight people.

I have a lot of male str8 friends, and again, none of them is insecure about their sexuality, this was never an issue for them.... btw, they are so confortable with their sexuality that they don't have problems wartching gay movies or talking about sex with their gay friends.

Shawn just watched Love, Simon and it was a terrifying experience for him...

 

[alexandersworld]

C’mon... no one is saying straight men can’t be insecure or vulnerable... but we’re talking specifically about sexuality. NO straight celebrity/artist is as fixated about their public perception of sexual identity as Shawn. NO ONE. Shawn brings up this issue time and time again unprompted, dating back to his infamous “I’m not gay” Snapchat in 2016. And in interviews he’s not even asked about his sexuality, but he’ll still bring the subject up because of how anxious ridden he is on the subject.

The easy explanation is that he is closeted, but hell, there are plenty of closeted celebrities that deal with sexuality rumors with way more grace and with way less discussion on how much anxiety it might cause them. How he doesn’t have a coherent answer on his identity (AFTER 55+ SELF-HELP BOOKS!!) is beyond me—just say “sexuality is personal and no ones business” or simply “fuck off” if/when asked. But, lots of gay men know exactly where that anxiety comes from and how it can manifest into irrational behavior—fears of being outed can be overwhelming for some.

I can understand why he’s gotten to the way he is now, he’s called gay and a bottom all the time and it’s insulting especially if he’s a straight man or isn’t ready to come out yet. If I was in his shoes I would feel the same exact way because at some point you get tired of hearing the same exact thing being repeated.

 

[Sanny88]

Oh no he's insecure about that. I don't think he's happy with Camila. I really don't. I just don't buy it. It feels too much of a put on like Blake and Gwen. It's like when a label pairs you up even if you desire another person. Like if Shawn had his eyes set on another woman but was told Camila would add to his reputation and he went for it. He's obviously insecure about things in general. This is a dude who at 14 wrote in his diary that he was gonna sell out stadiums over and over again and now that he's done it, he realizes he's not fulfilled.

LOL with the Blake and Gwen thing I think it's inevitably about politics, they seem to be polar opposites and Gwen seems happier forgetting all about it but it inevitably rears its head.

For Shawn it honestly could be that people just don't like Camila, she has been unable to shake the racist past and Shawn seems obsessed with people liking him. So if they don't like his girlfriend, he just has to have people like his girlfriend because it reflects on him.

 

[Starryvitorhs]

Try developing adult friendships with straight people.

Well let me tell you,
About 50/50 my friends are straight and only one was insecure and weird about it because when he got drunk he started to hook up with guys
He's out now and has a boyfriend
He's not insecure or weird about it anymore.
Yes, he used to talk about how everybody seemed to care about everybody's lives but that was because he couldnt bare to pretend for too long and felt like people could see through his disguise

Shawn is a celebrity, its easier to talk to jornalists and fans than with people in your real lifecircle, just go along with what you offer comercially. Why would he keep on pushing that talk if it wasnt a very deep issue? Im not saying his relation is fake but he sure makes it sound weird

 

[Andrewtoo]

Oh no he's insecure about that. I don't think he's happy with Camila. I really don't. I just don't buy it. It feels too much of a put on like Blake and Gwen. It's like when a label pairs you up even if you desire another person. Like if Shawn had his eyes set on another woman but was told Camila would add to his reputation and he went for it. He's obviously insecure about things in general. This is a dude who at 14 wrote in his diary that he was gonna sell out stadiums over and over again and now that he's done it, he realizes he's not fulfilled.

I don’t think he’s going to marry her — they’re young. But I buy that he’s in love with her. And I buy that he’s straight. I’ve seen lots of straight young guys explore their gentler side or feminine side or whatever, and it’s because they like girls. They like not having to have their guard up with every doofus trying to be a tough guy all the time. With Mendes, he’s an artist and gender and kindness are issues of our time so he’s exploring all of that, and they’re helpful when you’re trying so hard to make it/succeed all the time.

 

[Andrewtoo]

Well let me tell you,
About 50/50 my friends are straight and only one was insecure and weird about it because when he got drunk he started to hook up with guys
He's out now and has a boyfriend
He's not insecure or weird about it anymore.
Yes, he used to talk about how everybody seemed to care about everybody's lives but that was because he couldnt bare to pretend for too long and felt like people could see through his disguise

Shawn is a celebrity, its easier to talk to jornalists and fans than with people in your real lifecircle, just go along with what you offer comercially. Why would he keep on pushing that talk if it wasnt a very deep issue? Im not saying his relation is fake but he sure makes it sound weird

I knew a kid who wore pink fairy wings in kindergarten, had a pink lunchbox, etc, now is a total chick magnet. Another kid joined the girl’s lacrosse team because only the girls were playing and wore his uniform (a dress) to every class — happily married/kids. Another body builder painted his nails, had his girlfriends give him facials and manicures etc — married kids. This isn’t a conservative community. Neither are living lives of quiet desperation. Another straight male friend used to frequent gay bars and we bonded over a gay movie he related to a character in — bought a house with his straight girlfriend. Those are just the first ones to come to mind. Oh here’s another: TWO straight guys I know not only got blown by but I suspect themselves blew their friends way back when. One now is engaged to his longtime girlfriend, the other married with kids. The married one’s a cop — don’t know if he’s closeted, but I suspect not. The other two, again, confidently straight. Etc etc