Shortage of women on dating sites

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I thought women valued honesty? In my honest opinion, the women you find on dating sites are there because they're damaged goods, conventionally unattractive, and/or can't function properly in real social environments.

Kayden, it's not just women that are like that. There are dudes that fit your discription to: myself included. I'd be the first to admit that I'm some sort of social pariah. Maybe it's due to boredom, maybe it's due to the fact that I can't stand "the public." Who knows, who cares? :p

I'm sure I'm not the only "rotted on the vine" type.
 

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Kayden, it's not just women that are like that. There are dudes that fit your discription to: myself included. I'd be the first to admit that I'm some sort of social pariah. Maybe it's due to boredom, maybe it's due to the fact that I can't stand "the public." Who knows, who cares? :p

I'm sure I'm not the only "rotted on the vine" type.


I didn't say only women, or all women, I merely specified women as that is what this is about.
 

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Bloody hell is USA Match completely fucked up or something?? I've seen all the negatives mentioned in profiles I've read and they're not that hard to spot. Anyone can cover up their personality "warts" in a fleeting meetup in a bar, but few can stop those traits coming out in a well written profile. Anyone with a nice photo but a shoddily written profile ain't worth the bother.
I've used it quite a bit - as a contractor I end up moving every few months to take up work contracts and like to meet women in the locality with some shared interests and aren't "bunny boilers". I've met some great ones doing it, not all have ended up in the sack but it's not my primary aim of being on there.
Worked for me is all I can say...
 

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Um, Bonky, if that's who you really are today: dudes don't call other dudes "honey." That kind of creeped me out. :p

It's interesting to complain in a generalized way because people take it personally and get all bent out of shape.

Anyway, my "so called failure" has nothing to do with my views on people wanting to "hook-up." Most people these days are sex-crazed perverts. If they weren't, there wouldn't be such a problem with STDs. Too damn many couples are going for action "on the side." Too many husbands are bringing home diseases to their wives because they gave a BJ to someone from craigslist while the wife was minding the kids. And the wives bring home diseases because the wife felt (or was) ignored.

Too many men women are cutting off the "supply" of sex, that's why. And the husbands get desperate and seek it elsewhere. Prostitution is illegal here in the US and has become a black market. I also don't do prostitutes because I don't want to end up in a cell with a big dude named Bubba. My opinion is it should be legalized like in Europe as many women here who jump the gun on my opinion recommended it to me. However, I had to find an alternative means of release through porn which is fortunately legal and regulated. Most women in this country don't like sex SO I think men SHOULD be allowed to get it through REGULATED STD checked women and the men should get checked too before even entering the brothel. Heck, I'll be any woman's best friend and companion in marriage as long as I can get release from another source. She should at least provide the love and friendship. If women were to marry their friends, I may be the first in line as most women I meet have casted me in the "friendship" pile and I never get a chance with them being a boyfriend, much less a husband. The problem is most of these women marry their sex partner of preference and then find out they don't really feel like having sex with them anymore. Those that try to control husbands by cutting off sex and using it as a threat because men here can't get it legally, shame on you. You can't have it both ways so at least allow him to get it elsewhere. Men that ignore their wives, shame on you too. Women want to be loved and deserve a guy that gives them care instead of ignoring them. If your girl cheats on you you deserve it. Women want a best friend in a marriage at least provide that.
 
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Prostitution is legal in almost all of the world: Australia, New Zealand, Britain, some European countries, Brazil and many others. In most of the rest, laws aren't enforced. I've had some great sex with prostitutes, and being legal there are many women who work in the industry so there is competition for clients. The girls are often attractive and almost always have decent personalities, and some were just awsome! One or two of my best sexual experiences were paid for by me, but that didn't stop both of us having a great time.

Having posted that, the best sex is with someone you love and who loves you. To wake up together in the morning and seamlessly progress from cuddling to making love and finishing with cuddling again is magnificent. You feel amazing warmth towards that marvellous woman for the rest of the day, and she to you too.
 

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Prostitution is legal in almost all of the world: Australia, New Zealand, Britain, some European countries, Brazil and many others. In most of the rest, laws aren't enforced. I've had some great sex with prostitutes, and being legal there are many women who work in the industry so there is competition for clients. The girls are often attractive and almost always have decent personalities, and some were just awsome! One or two of my best sexual experiences were paid for by me, but that didn't stop both of us having a great time.

Having posted that, the best sex is with someone you love and who loves you. To wake up together in the morning and seamlessly progress from cuddling to making love and finishing with cuddling again is magnificent. You feel amazing warmth towards that marvellous woman for the rest of the day, and she to you too.

You are blessed if you can find a girl who will give it up even after the fear of childbirth. I find that my co-workers after their first kid are no longer lovey-dovey or kissy-kissy. When I went to their weddings, they are all over each other. When I went to their baby showers, however, the husband tries to kiss the wife but she turns away or pushes him away. I think it has a lot to do with the pain of child birth. I told my co-worker who complained about that that he needs to work out a compromise that they can remain in a marriage as best friends who would die for each other and that he needs to get his sex off from travelling to other countries where prostitution is legal such as Brazil, Holland, Germany, France, French Canada, China, or Dominican Republic. Yes, you will get the great sex when you are in your honeymoon but childbirth gives the fear of God into wives and takes the pleasure of sex away from HER. You have to learn to give that up once you have that first child. However, having a child is worth giving that special sex up because it opens up other means of fun like reliving your childhood through playing with them or being proud of someone that will continue your legacy.
 
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It's not childbirth as such, or else women wouldn't have more than one children. What many women do is re-direct the love they feel for their partner to their child. I am married to an African as you probably have read, and this wasn't a problem for me, but we also know that African women are very sexual. So childbirth was a 10-day pause until she recovered, and then things were almost as before (not quite, because when she was pregnant she was as horny as hell).

I think beyond my wife being African, too many men forget love and romance once they find a partner. If you keep the love and affection going, if you make her feel adored and cherished, if you help her when she is busy with housework and looking after children, then you will almost certainly have a fuller and more satisfying sex life.

But I still think the best bet is to look beyond that which we are familiar with, and find someone from a more sexually attuned culture. Not necessarily African, but that is the culture I have experience with.
 

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Bonky, does it get you off to put women down? You sure seem to enjoy indulging in it as frequently as possible. Hairy pussy isn't for everyone, but I enjoy mine and so do the people I date, so please STFU.
 

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Sure, you might lump me in with the rest of the "wanna-fucks"....

Errr no, THAT is EXACTLY the problem with a number of the male posters in this thread.... GENERALISATIONS and ASSUMPTIONS.

So *I* wouldn't 'lump' anyone into anything.
I take each person individually and avoid judging as much as possible.

That being said....

I'm guessing you're fat? :tongue:


Yes, I am 'fat' as I have stated and I'm guessing you're a fucktard with no social skills? :tongue:

There is a difference between honesty and being a rude prick.
At 24, you need some humility and diplomacy. Grow, the fuck up or you'll have a long, lonely road ahead.


Apologies to other readers, but enough is enough.
 

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I think the shortage is due to many things:
  • Men Lie: in their profiles, with their pictures, about their pasts, about their marital status, it just never ends
  • Men on dating sites, don't want to date; they want to fuck.
  • Contrary to what you have seen on Sex & the City, some women actually like commitment.
  • Women aren't morons, we learn from being burned by players & liars.
  • We learn we will probably never find a good man on a dating site.
  • Men who just want sex should go to AFF and drop the ruse of being a caring individual.
 

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I think women are just as much capable of lying than men. Not all men are fuckwits-- some are, just as some women are. If there's one thing I've learnt these past few years is that it's never good to generalise.

Furthermore, no matter where we meet (in cyberspace or in the 'real' world), there has to be mutual trust and respect for the relationship
to develop. Without them, it's like trying to drive a car on empty.

I think the shortage is due to many things:
  • Men Lie: in their profiles, with their pictures, about their pasts, about their marital status, it just never ends
  • Men on dating sites, don't want to date; they want to fuck.
  • Contrary to what you have seen on Sex & the City, some women actually like commitment.
  • Women aren't morons, we learn from being burned by players & liars.
  • We learn we will probably never find a good man on a dating site.
  • Men who just want sex should go to AFF and drop the ruse of being a caring individual.
 

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I think the shortage is due to many things:
  • Men Lie: in their profiles, with their pictures, about their pasts, about their marital status, it just never ends
  • Men on dating sites, don't want to date; they want to fuck.
  • Contrary to what you have seen on Sex & the City, some women actually like commitment.
  • Women aren't morons, we learn from being burned by players & liars.
  • We learn we will probably never find a good man on a dating site.
  • Men who just want sex should go to AFF and drop the ruse of being a caring individual.

This explains a lot about dating site women shortage. I find it to be a hunting ground for sexual encounters as well full of perverts and guys that just want to get their dick wet. No women there because they are too creepy. If sex is not what I woman wants I could live with that. I have other sources of getting it and all I want now in a relationship is a best friend with an allowance to have sex elsewhere. With porn, my jollies are satisfied and sex has become on the bottom of my list in a relationship. And forget Adult friendfinder. If you look there, you'll definitely not find a date, a fuck buddy, nor even a one night stand.
 
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I think the shortage is due to many things:
  • Men Lie: in their profiles, with their pictures, about their pasts, about their marital status, it just never ends
  • Women lie without opening their mouths. Hair dye, control top pantyhose, push up bras, makeup... Almost everything about a woman's appearance can be a lie. And I've seen WAY more women lie "with their pictures" than I have men. Fat girls always have the picture taken from high to the side and cut off the arm holding the camera. Cutting off the arm hides the arm flab. Photographing from the side hides the other flabby arm. Taking the picture from the top hides the stomach under the boobs and the second chin under the first. Women have no shortage of trickery at their disposal to appear better than they are. Do men do it do? Yeah, but there isn't a multi billion dollar market dedicated to helping them do it.
    Granted, that's mostly lies of appearance versus lies of personality, but it's all part of the same game. Women lie about their appearance to attract men. Men lie about their personality and intentions to attract women. Both sexes lie about one thing to get another. Neither is more guilty than the other.
    [*]Men on dating sites, don't want to date; they want to fuck.
    That's like saying priests don't want to help people; they want to rape little boys. Sure, it happens a lot, but it's not 100% accurate or productive to throw at every man you see. Yeah, some guys are horny dicks; we get it. Stop throwing your past baggage at new guys.
    [*]Contrary to what you have seen on Sex & the City, some women actually like commitment.
    Contrary to your men are worthless horn dogs tirade, some men actually like commitment too. Most just prefer to find someone they enjoy sex with and then commit instead of finding a personality they like first and then liking the sex. It's a gender prerogative. You can say I'm "hiding behind genetics" but on the same token, you're hiding behind assumption, stereotypes and misandristy.
    [*]Women aren't morons, we learn from being burned by players & liars.
    I don't know if women really "learn" or just become jaded and cynical of all men unilaterally. You read like the latter.
    [*]We learn we will probably never find a good man on a dating site.
    Just as true as me saying I'll probably never find a good woman online. Depends on the relative definition of good.
    [*] Men who just want sex should go to AFF and drop the ruse of being a caring individual.
    It's an old, tired joke, but the perfect man all women seek is gay. There is a fundamental disconnect between almost all men and women. Men are, by and large, led by sex. We can control it just as well as women can control bloating, cramping, and raging on their periods.
    Men's first criteria is sexual attraction. This puts off women. So, we try to present ourselves as sensitive to meet your criteria, but it generally comes of as forced or insincere. The sincerely sensitive, compassionate guys are either not interested in women or are not interesting to women. The strait guys with the "nice guy" qualities are by and large the meek, soft spoken, and insecure types. Women want both ends of the spectrum. They want a strong, confident man that knows what he wants, but he should also be sensitive to the needs and wishes to all those around him.

    Are there "perfect" guys? Yeah, but there are about as many as there are "perfect women. Why is it misogynistic for a man to want a stay at home woman to cook and clean with supermodel looks, yet it's perfectly reasonable, if not common place, for women to disregard men for not meeting their laundry list of personality criteria?
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Yes, I am 'fat' as I have stated and I'm guessing you're a fucktard with no social skills? :tongue:

There is a difference between honesty and being a rude prick.
At 24, you need some humility and diplomacy. Grow, the fuck up or you'll have a long, lonely road ahead.
It's funny how women that cut down men by 'telling the truth' are called strong and independent and are celebrated. However, a guy don't want to kiss the ass of a hand full of women on a message board and he's a rude, fucktard prick with no social skills.

I have plenty of tact. I use it with customers, I use it with employers, I use it with friends. Do I give two shits about the opinion of someone on a message board? Not really. I'm not going to use terms like husky or thick or plus to make a stranger feel better about being fat. I don't want to candy coat my opinion because I'm afraid you'd eat it.

I don't go out of my way to harass people. For example, I agree with Bonky in that that bush needs a shaving. However, I thought better than to say something... until now of course. She didn't ask, so I didn't say anything. Even I find Bonky distasteful from time to time.

The OP asked about my thoughts on dating sites, so I let my honest opinion out. You then said "that's really fucking offensive". Since weight seems to be one of the things women on the net get irrationally upset over, I jokingly led with "I guess you're fat". I do I really care in the slightest if you are? Fuck no. I made a joke and moved on. You're a stranger; I'm a stranger. If you don't like my opinion, get over it and move on. You don't have to go out of your way to tell me how empty you think my life will be unless I live by your criteria. Guess what! I have friends. Some people actually value my directness. To many people cover up their feelings with pretentious bullshit. With me, they always know where they stand. I don't tell the emperor I like his new clothes; I tell that mother fucker he's running around naked.
 

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Back in the 1980s there were about 1.3 women for every eligible man from 35 to 44. The odds were even better for the narrower group of men in their late 30s dating women in their early 30s: Almost two women for every single man (source: the Wall Street Journal).

Now however the current population surveys show that the percentage of 35 to 44-year old bachelors almost tripled from 1980 to 2000. Census reports indicate further that by 2010 men in their late 30s and early 40s will outnumber women five to 10 years younger by two to one…and within nine years, there will be one woman that's 30 to 34 for every two men 35 to 44, according to one set of projections by the U.S. Census.

I only internet dated a couple of times in my life. I found it kinda lame and not to my liking. I have no problem making friends online though, like through MySpace or Facebook or whatever. In fact, I met the person I date currently through a mutual friend (a philosophy professor we both know) on MySpace. So people do make connections online...maybe it's rougher on dating sites because there are inherent issues that come with the territory. Men without any exceptional qualities get mad because women ten years younger than them don't respond to their emails. And women get mad because they can't find a man closer in age who is six feet or taller and earns six figures. (To understand the problem with that, you need to do a little math. If 25% of men are six feet or taller, and if 10% of men earn six figures, and there's no correlation between the two, then women with both of these requirements have limited themselves to only 2.5% of men. No wonder why they can't meet anyone!) It seems like the only way to succeed at it is to do it the way Bonky does it.
 

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It's funny how women that cut down men by 'telling the truth' are called strong and independent and are celebrated. However, a guy don't want to kiss the ass of a hand full of women on a message board and he's a rude, fucktard prick with no social skills.

I have plenty of tact. I use it with customers, I use it with employers, I use it with friends. Do I give two shits about the opinion of someone on a message board? Not really. I'm not going to use terms like husky or thick or plus to make a stranger feel better about being fat. I don't want to candy coat my opinion because I'm afraid you'd eat it.

I don't go out of my way to harass people. For example, I agree with Bonky in that that bush needs a shaving. However, I thought better than to say something... until now of course. She didn't ask, so I didn't say anything. Even I find Bonky distasteful from time to time.

The OP asked about my thoughts on dating sites, so I let my honest opinion out. You then said "that's really fucking offensive". Since weight seems to be one of the things women on the net get irrationally upset over, I jokingly led with "I guess you're fat". I do I really care in the slightest if you are? Fuck no. I made a joke and moved on. You're a stranger; I'm a stranger. If you don't like my opinion, get over it and move on. You don't have to go out of your way to tell me how empty you think my life will be unless I live by your criteria. Guess what! I have friends. Some people actually value my directness. To many people cover up their feelings with pretentious bullshit. With me, they always know where they stand. I don't tell the emperor I like his new clothes; I tell that mother fucker he's running around naked.

Rude personal comments can't be claimed as 'honesty' or 'funny', they are tactless and cheap. And yes, it was lame of you to even try that one.

For the record, I love being beefy, I have great curves, I have fantastic DDD boobs, I am way more comfortable and healthy then when I was a size 8, so there's no need to try and "make me feel better". You're assumption of unhappiness was incorrect.

I don't want to candy coat my opinion because I'm afraid you'd eat it.
Oh yeah, for sure, you're totally tactful, diplomatic and respectful. :rolleyes:

Seriously, you are pathetic and immature. Loneliness will just a matter of time when you speak/treat people like crap, no matter who they are or how well you know them. You've shown your true colours, good luck with that.

A rude, fucktard prick with no social skills <--- there is MY honesty. Remember, get over it :wink:
 

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Oh yeah, for sure, you're totally tactful, diplomatic and respectful. :rolleyes:

Seriously, you are pathetic and immature. Loneliness will just a matter of time when you speak/treat people like crap, no matter who they are or how well you know them. You've shown your true colours, good luck with that.

A rude, fucktard prick with no social skills <--- there is MY honesty. Remember, get over it :wink:

I'm not saying I care about your opinion; I'm merely attempting to point out the irony and hypocrisy. You don't think calling someone a fucktard destined for loneliness is the slightest bit rude? Sure, I "started it", so you could use that excuse, or you could be the better person and either not comment or comment tactfully. Why bother lecturing me if you're just going to stoop to my level? Practice what you preach and all that.
 

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*cough* hypocrite ...."Get over it".

I wasn't stooping to anything, you said you liked honesty. But it seems you can't take it!?
You're right, it's clear I am the better person. :biggrin1:
No preaching or leacturing here, just the facts of life.

BTW don't pretend to quote me when I never said something.



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I think it's now clear why there is not as many women on dating sites... You never know what's really behind the screen and men* can cunningly delay their real characteristics from creeping out.


*Just so there is no more tanties thrown, I am sure females *can* too, but I don't date them.
 
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