Should David Shuster be fired?

Should David Shuster be fired for his remark about Chelsea Clinton

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I have MSNBC on all the time, I love Hardball but don't like when Shuster fills for Chris Matthews. I just dont like him, but I dont think he should be fired either. The Clintons daughter is not a little girl anymore, if she can be paraded around for her mother's political benefit she can take a remark from a political pundit. I've heard Pat Buchanan say much worse things while on MSNBC. I don't agree with Pat politically but I still find him very enjoyable while on TV, but what Shuster said wasn't the worst thing to be said on TV.
 

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I have MSNBC on all the time, I love Hardball but don't like when Shuster fills for Chris Matthews. I just dont like him, but I dont think he should be fired either. The Clintons daughter is not a little girl anymore, if she can be paraded around for her mother's political benefit she can take a remark from a political pundit. I've heard Pat Buchanan say much worse things while on MSNBC. I don't agree with Pat politically but I still find him very enjoyable while on TV, but what Shuster said wasn't the worst thing to be said on TV.

Which is my point.. "pimp" was used in the same terminology as "parade"

Hillary is reaching to take offense at this. Campaigns are often a family affair. I think what Kerry said (and I voted for him) about homosexuals, that they would feel like Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, was just being herself. That was more inappropriate than anything that Dave Shuster said. Kerry was trying to be hypocritical of Cheney's views on gay marriage, knowing he had a gay daughter. Yet it was disrespectful for an opponent to take his daughter's personal private life and put it on the national spotlight that way. She wasn't consulted nor asked about it and that was clearly about her sexual orientation.

They talked about using Chelsea Clinton to make phone calls for her mother and that the national spotlight is still shielding her somewhat on her political involvement. That's a valid question. Dave doesn't have the charisma or charm, but saying that someone was being pimped out is used to restore a car "pimp my ride" or they pimped him out to get more business. It's easily calling someone a go-getter or a top sales person.

It just doesn't have the negative connotation that some old-ass mofo asked "don't you think that's going too far to call someone's child." She's 28 years old. Hillary was pimping out her husband in S. Carolina and she pimped out her daughter to make calls for to superdelegates and it hasn't hit the headlines.

I'm sorry but she's looking for offense for a questionable choice of words, because she ate a lot of crow for her own choice of words about King/Johnson and wants to have the same press coverage where she's not the only one.

Hillary is not a victim and I think her "softer" teary side is as frabricated as her tears were before New Hampshire. I'm a chic, though, so I think that is manipulative on her part. Hillary didn't take offense until some other on-air old-fart took offense at Shuster, first and she ran with it.

It's all theater. Oh Hillary, we'll apologize, don't pull out of the debates. She wants that coverage, where they had to apologize to her, just to get her to debate. Trust it's a facade to get coverage to make her look more sympathetic. Just like that stupid assertion by her campaign is pushing -- they are getting away from Hillary being the inevitable experienced candidate, that Obama is "establishment candidate" because he got endorsements of the establishment like Kennedy. That's right, they said Hillary is not the establishment candidate, Barrack is. Every person that heard that has laughed on camera.

No, Dave doesn't need to be fired, he doesn't need to be suspended. It's not going to have the effect on superdelegates that Hillary fears. Hillary's camp is more concerned that the Dave's statement is claiming she's pimping out her daughter, the superdelegates they are trying to court won't want the negative press that they had a hand in "exploiting her child" and lose superdelegate votes. It's paranoid and it's fabricated martyrdom.
 

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I feel that he should be fired because he would not never thought of making that comment if it was a CALEB Clinton instead of Chelsea Clinton. Simply put, the comment was made with the full intenetion of having a sexual conotation and THAT is what is completely unacceptable.
 

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David Schuster is one of the smartest political reporters out there......the reason the comment may have caused such a ripple is because there is a bit of truth in it...

Are you actually implying that the Clintons are having their daughter do sexual favors for the delegates!?! Because otherwise it is pretty common for members of the candidates families to make phone calls to people asking them to support their parents. It is not her fault that people know who Chelsea Clinton is whereas they may not be aware of who Jack McCain or Tagg Romney are.
 

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Three words...FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

What has happened to it? No one can say anything anymore without having to apologize. Let whomever say whatever and if he or she gets ratings low enough to take them out then so be it, but really, it was his way of getting things across and if you don't like it, don't tune in.
 

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Well, those naughty pc thought police should have stopped after Shuster made his comment about Dick Cheney pimping out his lesbian daughter last time he was on an election ticket.

Oh, wait! He didn't.

That's right... Cheney was too busy trying to put her back into the closet than actually let her see the light of day. :rolleyes:

I agree that MSNBC overreacted. A lot worse things have been said about Clinton during this election process. It's a shame that intelligent people would have to stoop to cheap shots to begin with in order to get a point across. You'd think people would have the common sense not to do it. Has nothing to do with being PC, but just treating people with some kind of respect regardless of the circumstances.
 

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I feel that he should be fired because he would not never thought of making that comment if it was a CALEB Clinton instead of Chelsea Clinton. Simply put, the comment was made with the full intenetion of having a sexual conotation and THAT is what is completely unacceptable.
Actually, the Clintons are trying to have it both ways...using their daughter to talk to voters AND call superdelegates, and yet she is "OFF-LIMITS" to the press......Why?
 

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Actually, the Clintons are trying to have it both ways...using their daughter to talk to voters AND call superdelegates, and yet she is "OFF-LIMITS" to the press......Why?
I'm sure it's not so much that she's off-limits to the press, as the way the press chose to portray it.

Politicians have routinely gotten their children to be active participants in their campaigns. This is the first time I've heard it referred to as "pimping out their daughters."

Unless you are saying that only the Clintons are sleazy for having their daughter campaign for them...
 

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I feel that he should be fired because he would not never thought of making that comment if it was a CALEB Clinton instead of Chelsea Clinton. Simply put, the comment was made with the full intenetion of having a sexual conotation and THAT is what is completely unacceptable.

How do you feel about his apology? And if he's never said anything like that before, should he be given another chance?
 

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It would be very helpful if those of you who responded to this thread in support of Shuster would communicate that to MSNBC. I am afraid the network will make a sacrificial lamb out of Shuster in the name of PC.

Incidentally, I enjoyed reading Zoe73's postings--she was very persuasive in her well-written pieces and it's highly informative to get a woman's viewpoint about an issue involving what many view as "sexist" language. (If you're not a professional writer, Zoe73, you should be. Both of your postings could stand alone as outstanding OpEd pieces.)
 

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If this is a sign of how Hillary is going to deal with pundits like this? Heaven help us if she gets the White House.

No he should not be fired. The Clinton's are just mad because someone called them on their game.
 

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It would be very helpful if those of you who responded to this thread in support of Shuster would communicate that to MSNBC. I am afraid the network will make a sacrificial lamb out of Shuster in the name of PC.

Incidentally, I enjoyed reading Zoe73's postings--she was very persuasive in her well-written pieces and it's highly informative to get a woman's viewpoint about an issue involving what many view as "sexist" language. (If you're not a professional writer, Zoe73, you should be. Both of your postings could stand alone as outstanding OpEd pieces.)

Unfortunately, the masses would think I was a republican or worse, some bat-shit crazy Ann Coulter clone ranting about the same thing repeatedly, only with poor grammar and in dire need of a spell checker.