Should incest be decriminalised?

[B_Hickboy]

Over the centuries there has been a lot of in-breeding among the gentry and Royal houses of Europe.

Also, didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry his 16 year old cousin?

She was 13 at the time, I believe.

 

[TurkeyWithaSunburn]

I was just reading about Alan Turing, who was castrated for being a criminal, a felon of that time - a homosexual.

Alan Turing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia He had a chemical castration so he didn't have to go to prison. At the time I do believe a conviction of homosexual acts carried a LIFE imprisonment sentence.

Even cousins are off limits.unless you're from alabama.

It must be a pressing problem in MD. I never knew
Md. lawmaker aims to ban first-cousin wedlock - Sexual health- msnbc.com

11 State Laws About Marrying Your Cousins, From Strictest to Loosest - 11Points.com
Marrying your 2nd cousin is legal in all 50 states according to that page.

News Blog: Incest may not be best, but marriage bans should be rolled back, scientists say

Cousin marriages around the world are common.
Risks of cousin marriages | Qatar Living

He said that cousin marriage was common around the world with up to 20% of couples being first cousins.
“In Arab countries, cousin marriages range between 20-70% of all marriages with between 50 to 70% occurring in Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Pakistan and India also have up to 60% of marriages happening between cousins,” he said.
He said first cousin marriages were being allowed in 26 states in the US, adding that no European country prohibited first cousin marriage.

First cousin marriages are common in some areas of the world. It increases tribalism and loyalty to the family clan. Saddam Hussein was married to his first cousin.

Third Cousin or further is ok in Korea.
Article 809 of the Korean Civil Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most states allow incestuous marriages past a certain degree of seperation.

Depends on what is meant by incestuous. Most of the time it is thought of as a nuclear family and one further degree of separation. Mother/father/daughter/son/uncles/aunts/nieces/nephews/grandparents.

There is the case of a German brother and sister who were adopted out to different families and met as adults. They met, fell in love, did the nasty, and two of their 3 children have severe problems, I think the 3rd also has "minor" medical problems. The man has been to prison for years at a time because of it. They want to marry.

There are also cases such as the Austrian guy who locked up his daughter in the basement for decades and raped her and she had children. I think they have problems because of the incestuous parentage and their isolation.

There is an Australian case where a daughter met her father who was absent or she was adopted off as an infant. They hit it off and produced a few kids. Kids with defects.

The only society that I can think of offhand to encourage true incestuous marriages was ancient Egypt. The royalty had a lot of brother–sister, father–daughter, and mother–son arrangements.


Do whatever the hell you want to with a consenting adult, and DO NOT have children with them is my take on it. But I reserve the right to be grossed out and puke upon your shoes.

 

[thadjock]

and the future of the planet depended upon them creating a new generation, .

ironically, and somewhat tragically, given the events of the last few wks, and really most of the last decade, I'd say we've reached the point where the future of the planet might be more secure if the human species DID die off completely.

homo sapiens are the kryptonite in EVERY eco-system.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

ironically, and somewhat tragically, we've reached the point where the future of the planet might be more secure if the human species DID die off completely.

What good would the planet be then? Just a rock circling the sun with no intelligent life on it, like the other useless planets in our solar system. That's just silly. What point is there in a future if there is no one to enjoy it and partake of it? What kind of earth do you think we'd have if it was overtaken by nature without intelligence, beautiful maybe, but worthless if you ask me.

People will always be populating the earth whether you want to or not. I think there comes a point on either side of this argument where not everything can be left to be a self containing eco system without human interferance nor can it all be taken up with skyscrapers. You take advantage of many things provided to you in the modern world thanks to this "imbalance" of the eco system and then complain its all bad out of the other side of your mouth.

Practice what you preach and go move off and be a entirely self containing organism where you don't effect any part of this planet. It's nearly impossible.

 

[thadjock]

What good would the planet be then? Just a rock circling the sun with no intelligent life on it, .

i just got an email from a dolphin who's really pissed

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Then go live with the dolphins.

 

[luka82]

I fuck you all.

And YES, you can! You are not my real father!!!!:biggrin1:


And LOL to all people who are comparing homosexuality with incest, I just can`t believe it!
I`d rather laugh than cry!

 

[HiddenLacey]

And YES, you can! You are not my real father!!!!:biggrin1:


And LOL to all people who are comparing homosexuality with incest, I just can`t believe it!
I`d rather laugh than cry!

The things I've heard homosexuality compared with do not even begin to shock me anymore! You know the world is full of some people who cannot accept people that are different from what they are comfortable with.

 

[HazelGod]

Responding to the title of this thread, I have to invoke the consenting adults
rule.

 

[rob_just_rob]

Tough call. I find the idea of sibling or parent-child (or grandparent-child) incest pretty damn disturbing. But so long as both parties are consenting adults, the fact that it disturbs other people (including me) shouldn't be relevant.

 

[luka82]

The things I've heard homosexuality compared with do not even begin to shock me anymore! You know the world is full of some people who cannot accept people that are different from what they are comfortable with.

Yeah I know!:frown1:

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

My great grandparents were first cousins. It probably explains alot of my quirks. But not entirely unusual in the rural areas of any part of this country 100 years ago.

 

[Xcuze]

My great grandparents were first cousins. It probably explains alot of my quirks. But not entirely unusual in the rural areas of any part of this country 100 years ago.

Well we all descend from inbreds, basically.

But decriminalising it would be society endorsing it. Which is not a great thing considering how many vulnerable people there are trapped within family units. Especially younger members but also older members with issues; mental, emotional or physical even. Just sends out a message that they are fair game.

It's not something to be encouraged I don't think.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Yeah i totally agree. I can't stand 96% of my family, there is no way im going to be marrying or fucking any of them. I love 33% of the household not being related to me honestly.

 

[D_Portelay Porquesword]

For me, it's not about "consenting adults", of course grown folks can do what they want.
However, why feast on your own family like that? The idea is repulsive to me.

The world is big place, the choices are many. For me, family is not the area of the gene pool to be picking sex partners from.

 

[HazelGod]

For me, it's not about "consenting adults", of course grown folks can do what they want.
However, why feast on your own family like that? The idea is repulsive to me.

The world is big place, the choices are many. For me, family is not the area of the gene pool to be picking sex partners from.

So it isn't for you...and that's fine. It isn't for me, either. But if two consenting adults wanna go for it, why should it be a criminal act?

The sickos who molest their pets...now those are the ones who should be shot between the eyes and dumped in a shallow grave.

 

[D_Portelay Porquesword]

So it isn't for you...and that's fine. It isn't for me, either. But if two consenting adults wanna go for it, why should it be a criminal act?

The sickos who molest their pets...now those are the ones who should be shot between the eyes and dumped in a shallow grave.

Agreed.

It should not be a criminal act.

 

[Drifterwood]

So it isn't for you...and that's fine. It isn't for me, either. But if two consenting adults wanna go for it, why should it be a criminal act?

If you can define consent and take responsibility for that being the case, then I may go with you. But the vast vast majority of incest is all about abuse.

I don't know why you can't be like other civilised nations and be happy with sheep.

 

[dandelion]

The comments from Balance1771 state for me times it could be even remotely considered allowable- consenting adults, mentally fit, no power plays/coercion involved. Even with consent and no psychiatric malady, I am not particularly for it and there are far too many available men and women on the loose in the world to make for the necessity of this.

Once more mitchymo, you present incest and give no age parameters or other details. In fact, in this post, the one immediately above, you say 'any incest'. Really? You mean such as a 4 year old and an adult?

I dont think youre taking the question seriously. There are lots of laws which say an adult cannot have sex with a child, you cannot rape, etc. The question is whether apart from all the normal restrictions there should be another one banning sex between two people where it would be allowed except that they are closely related.

Nope - the reasons against it are still valid, even in the 21st century. Inbreeding produces genetic disorders - plus it leaves people much more exposed to abuse within families.

Inbreeding issues apply to cousin marriages too, and they're allowed. Its still quite a small risk. Do you think people with inheritable diseases should be legally forbidden from having children? As mentioned, there are lots of other laws about abuse: does this really add anything since the people concerned would legally have to be adults anyway?

Ahhhhh, NOOOOOOOOOOO........incest is still incest, even in a "liberalized" society.

So why exactly is it disgusting and therefore ought to be banned? I remember seeing a program about children brought up on Israeli communes. It said they were very concerned because children all raised together from birth naturally do not regard each other as interesting sex/marriage partners. They all married out of the commune. So it is instinct. But if some want to do it...why does the law have to get involved? What business is it of anyone else?

 

[798686]

i just got an email from a dolphin who's really pissed

He's just a gay shark. :tongue: