Should large-breasted women pay extra for bras?

[D_Mylor Mentallydaft]

I remember attending a meeting of female bartenders who were demanding that they get paid the same hourly rate as the male bartenders...
So the club owner got up and asked if the female bartenders would be willing to POOL and divide all tips evenly....

well lets be honest... unless you work at a gay club...... asking the female bartenders to pool their tips and share with the men is like asking florida and alaska to pool their energy bill money but it only covers heating

Why should I have to pay more to fuel my Hummer than you do to fuel your Prius when we are both driving the same distance and both just trying to get to work...

Sorry. Its a foolish argument.

its not a foolish arguement phill, its a very intelligent and well debated one, it's called socialism, only there are no hummers in socialism phil, hummers ar almost exclusivly for military use and the only normal folks that can afford the 150 thousand dollar watered down civilian puke mobile are the "rich" and they don't exist in socialism.... hell in a socicalist socioty the military dosen't have em, cause the cheap ass gov can't afford to build new stuff...... and in this world, the women with HH cups breasts pay the same as women with b cup breasts.

so in your 2 very contradicting examples the first being the people with the money refuse to give lower prices and women pay more you win.... small

the second is hippy utopia in which you are assigned a job at birth, everything is substandard to the rest of the world, and no one is ever rewarded for anything they accomplish, cause it's all for the greater good and your hard work gets you nothing and winds up buying the ladies their bra's on your dollar anyway.... you loose.... big.... but on the other hand, women have better support less pain and the the giant juggs get kept cause no one wants a walter reid breast reduction and i never have to see another pair of beautiful breasts hacked off again and while you're sweating your little nuts off in your shitty highrise project in tampa i'm gonna bundle up and illegally immigrate to a capitalist country with a lax penal system and and weak morals, and have my giant breasted women from your country over cause I GOT CENTRAL AIIIIRRRR!!!!! I WINN!!!! YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YA WANT PHILLY BOY BUT IF YA TRY SOME TIMES YOU JUST MIGHT FIND!!!!!! YA GET WHAT YA NEEEEEEED!!!!


and lay off the anti women stuff... you're mother is a woman, and even bad men love their mamas

 

[dolfette]

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yeah, that's really insightful *yawn*

 

[ManlyBanisters]

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yeah, that's really insightful *yawn*

Do you know that's exactly what I read too. Stunning coincidence!

 

[deleted356736]

Just to repeat my post: extra large-sized clothing costs more because they are made in smaller quantities and therefore cost more to make per unit. Dis-economies of scale. Material usage is a part of it, but the extra cost (and price) is mostly labour.

I used to work in clothing manufacturing, and as an accountant too.

 

[dolfette]

Just to repeat my post: extra large-sized clothing costs more because they are made in smaller quantities and therefore cost more to make per unit. Dis-economies of scale. Material usage is a part of it, but the extra cost (and price) is mostly labour.

I used to work in clothing manufacturing, and as an accountant too.

my size 10 blouse is the same price as the size 18 in the same style.
my size 10 jeans are the same price as the size 22 in the same style.
my size 10 knickers are the same price as the size 16 in the same style.
my size 6 shoes are the same price as the size 9 in the same style.

i know that this is a tricky concept to grasp, but the objection is that the two price system only applied to bras.

some studies show a link between badly fitting bras and breast cancer.

 

[Ed69]

^^^I buy my shirts in large size,my brother gets his in 2XL and they are on average 5$ extra always has been that way.More matrial more labor small pruduction unit!Even with womens bra's in the US.It costs more,get over it!

 

[Ed69]

some studies show a link between badly fitting bras and breast cancer.

This is why my wife at 44G only uses sports bras when neaded.:smile:The rest of the time she goes cammando!

 

[ManlyBanisters]

some studies show a link between badly fitting bras and breast cancer.

I saw that too. I wondered if the women who don't pay attention to buying a well fitting bra are also the kind of women who neglect to breast check. I'm not saying that's the case - but that is the thought that crossed my mind when I saw a report on a study of that nature.

I guess it is worth noting that Just Joe above does say in Target he pays more for larger sized 501 type jeans. I have also noticed that online t-shirt printing operations do charge more for the XXL and up t-shirt sizes.

I see what cbr is saying, and appreciate it is from a position of experience, but I don't think there is that much of a difference material between a D cup t-shirt bra and an E or F cup - the store in Ireland I prefer to buy these bras in doesn't do anything larger than F cups. I should imagine, though I may be wrong, that the manufacturing process is not significantly different. So the store only orders 1000 of them (for example) and orders 10,000 C cups - does the run for the F cups really cost that much more that £2 / $3 per bra is require to make the same mark-up? I can't believe that.

EDIT: Not to mention that cup size is not the only difference - there is the chest size too. 34B / 34C are about the most common sizes (in Ireland) but they make 40 C and 40 B, they also make 34 E and 42 F and 36 A. But M&S were never charging extra for the 40 / 42 C even though they are probably as commonly (uncommonly) bought as the 38 F, for example.

So just basing the price difference on cup size can't have been based solely on manufacturing costs because in that case the 42 B and 36 A bra should be more expensive, too.

 

[D_Kay_Sarah_Sarah]

This is why my wife at 44G only uses sports bras when neaded.:smile:The rest of the time she goes cammando!

I would have thought the weight of G boobs unsupported and pulling her forward would have done a LOT more damage then any ill fitting bra would have?

 

[Ed69]

Lee M^^I would too,but my wife says no.She only wears sports bras when there will be extra force applied to her breasts.Horse back riding being the most common thing to cause pain.

 

[ScorpioSlut]

my size 10 blouse is the same price as the size 18 in the same style.
my size 10 jeans are the same price as the size 22 in the same style.
my size 10 knickers are the same price as the size 16 in the same style.
my size 6 shoes are the same price as the size 9 in the same style.

i know that this is a tricky concept to grasp, but the objection is that the two price system only applied to bras.

some studies show a link between badly fitting bras and breast cancer.

As someone who has worn various sizes and having worna size 22 I beg to differ. Yes specialty stores definitely cost more for larger sizes.....but even at places like Target that carries both sizes.....my clothing always costs at least $3-$5 more. The same is true for JCPenney and other department stores as well. It is often the same for people who wear tall sizes as well. If you don't want to take my word for it open a Sunday Ad or a catalogue.....the fine print often says "add $x for sizes 1x-whatever" or "Size 0-18 is $x and size 20-28 is $x + $3"

 

[dolfette]

As someone who has worn various sizes and having worna size 22 I beg to differ. Yes specialty stores definitely cost more for larger sizes.....but even at places like Target that carries both sizes.....my clothing always costs at least $3-$5 more. The same is true for JCPenney and other department stores as well. It is often the same for people who wear tall sizes as well. If you don't want to take my word for it open a Sunday Ad or a catalogue.....the fine print often says "add $x for sizes 1x-whatever" or "Size 0-18 is $x and size 20-28 is $x + $3"

the thread is about a uk store.
not an american store.
so my inexperience of target, jcpenney etc isn't an issue.

 

[ManlyBanisters]

Scorpio - dolfette is in the UK. It seems the large sur-charge is a US phenomenon. In Ireland, France and the UK (the 3 countries I'm most familiar with) I can't ever recall seeing larger sizes of the same style being anything other than the exact same price.

I've shopped for clothes in the US but not noticed a clothing size price difference, but I believe you and others. cbr's point is valid, it must be to do with the size of production runs because it doesn't apply to kid's clothes. If you look at dresses or trousers, the same dress or pair of trousers for a 3 yo is not cheaper than the 9 yo size - because the production runs for each size will be about the same.

 

[ScorpioSlut]

40 and 42 bands are not as uncommon as you might think. The store where I buy my bras orders them in at least the same quantity as 36 and 38 and they often have to special order my 40/42 band (depending on the bra style) because they have already sold out of them.

Also as stated before it's not only the amount of material used to make the cup or the band, but the smaller production and supply and demand....which in my opinion is the bigger problem. Even though I have found a wonderful place to buy bras for many years I had a horrible problem as many of you have stated, much like Kotch, finding not only a bra that fits properly but is also stylish and something I'm proud to wear. However, since large-breasted people much like larger people are in the minority the supply is relatively small in relation to the demand that is there.....therefore shops can charge more for an item that is fairly essential to us.

For what it's worth the specialty shop where I buy my bras does charge more for bras that are larger at a certain point......anything over a 42" band in a cup size under C costs more (apparently because they are more rare) just like anything over a DD (I think) costs more. Just like other clothing for larger people they alway range about $5 more than the sizes that are more commonly carried.

I saw that too. I wondered if the women who don't pay attention to buying a well fitting bra are also the kind of women who neglect to breast check. I'm not saying that's the case - but that is the thought that crossed my mind when I saw a report on a study of that nature.

I guess it is worth noting that Just Joe above does say in Target he pays more for larger sized 501 type jeans. I have also noticed that online t-shirt printing operations do charge more for the XXL and up t-shirt sizes.

I see what cbr is saying, and appreciate it is from a position of experience, but I don't think there is that much of a difference material between a D cup t-shirt bra and an E or F cup - the store in Ireland I prefer to buy these bras in doesn't do anything larger than F cups. I should imagine, though I may be wrong, that the manufacturing process is not significantly different. So the store only orders 1000 of them (for example) and orders 10,000 C cups - does the run for the F cups really cost that much more that £2 / $3 per bra is require to make the same mark-up? I can't believe that.

EDIT: Not to mention that cup size is not the only difference - there is the chest size too. 34B / 34C are about the most common sizes (in Ireland) but they make 40 C and 40 B, they also make 34 E and 42 F and 36 A. But M&S were never charging extra for the 40 / 42 C even though they are probably as commonly (uncommonly) bought as the 38 F, for example.

So just basing the price difference on cup size can't have been based solely on manufacturing costs because in that case the 42 B and 36 A bra should be more expensive, too.

 

[D_Mylor Mentallydaft]

my size 10 blouse is the same price as the size 18 in the same style.
my size 10 jeans are the same price as the size 22 in the same style.
my size 10 knickers are the same price as the size 16 in the same style.
my size 6 shoes are the same price as the size 9 in the same style.

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yeah, but all of the costs from the production a figured in b4 they are sold to distributor. if it cost a buck to make a large 2 bucks to make and xl and 3 bucks to make 2x and the sold one of each they would take 6 bucks mark it up 14-18% charge you shipping and send it on and when you got it ont he shelf it would be reflected

but the sell em all at the same price because they buy 20 large 10xl and 5 xxl so the price rounds out to 2.50,3.00 a shirt.

bigger bras cost more cause they require more material obviously and they also must be hand assembled unless its a company that ONLY makes larger bra's

 

[upone]

I say stop crying. you know how many women get SURGERY to have large breasts?!? and lastly, i agree with larger clothing costing more. If you want a 9oz steak it costs more than an 8oz right? why wouldn't the 9oz bra cost more than the 8oz. more materials = more money required. now as for the actual price increase due to the extra materials, that i can't comment on.

Bullshit! Women with big natural tits should get a subsidy! My bank gets a subsidy, my car company gets a subsidy; we need a Big Tit Subsidy!!

 

[got_lost]

The only flaw with cbr's reasoning, is that yes, the larger sizes may well cost the manufacturer more cos they are making less of them, but then so will the smaller sizes.

The most cost effective sizes to make would be that which sells the most, but there will be many sizes made that don't sell in such large quantities as the average hence both smaller bra's and larger bra's would be more expensive.

Hence there could be a range of prices to reflect these whereby a 34B is the cheapest and all other bra's get more expensive whether they go up or down in size.

That said, the stores selling 'off the rack' products don't do this.
Logically that's the right thing to do.

Any manufacturing which wants to sell it's product in a mass market will make the range of products it can and sell them at a set price, reflective of how many total units a seller buys. They know that the overall costs of each size differ and know how many of each size will be sold and that is reflected in their overall pricing strategy.

At the point where they cannot sustain that product at that price they would either make it a 'speciality item' or just stop bloomin' making it!

 

[joybunny]

To the original answer: It depends. I have been a DD since my early 20's and currently wear from a 34 - 36. The biggest pet peeve I have just like others here is that many of the pretty bras are reserved for those with far smaller breasts. I also find it annoying that I may have to pay $3 - $5 more for a bra while someone who wears a 40 C doesn't. Last time I checked there's not much difference in the amount of material used.

At this time I do not have a favorite brand because I've found a number of bra manufacturers start their DD's at either a 38 or 40. I guess the assumption is those with large breasts are either overweight or have implants.

If I find a bra in my size, and it fits well, I'll buy it. My favorite bra right now is by Cacique. They are the few that carry 36 DD but every once in a while I find an Olga that fits. Only down side is that Cacique can be kind of pricey (they do have good sales) and the Olga bra straps can be too think.

I know this is off topic but I've noticed an increase of advertisements for breast reduction in my area. I realize that there a many women who may suffer with the pain of having large breast but I think some clinics are psyching some women into a surgery they may not need. Back pain can come from numerous sources outside of having large breasts. I personally don't have that issue because I wear good fitting bras and I do a work out that targets back muscles and my core.

 

[ScorpioSlut]

So being charged more for bras is only a UK issue? Just because the OP used M&S as the example doesn't mean this isn't a universal women's issue. I don't expect everyone to be experience with every store globally. I am simply adding an American perspective to the conversation. It is totally commonplace for larger clothing no matter what article it is to cost more and I can understand the reasons why. That doesn't mean I believe it's right....just simply stating the facts.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

my size 10 blouse is the same price as the size 18 in the same style.
my size 10 jeans are the same price as the size 22 in the same style.
my size 10 knickers are the same price as the size 16 in the same style.
my size 6 shoes are the same price as the size 9 in the same style.

i know that this is a tricky concept to grasp, but the objection is that the two price system only applied to bras.

some studies show a link between badly fitting bras and breast cancer.

Dolf, that's called an argument from ignorance.

Had you read the previous post you would have heard what someone with experience in clothing manufacture had to say...

The difference between a Size 18 and a size 12 dress is strictly the amount of Fabric.
Because the parts for the dress are cut out of standard width bolts of cloth, and the patterns can only fit so tightly on the fabric, the difference in how much cloth is used on a DRESS is fairly minimal... literally a few pennies per item...

However, as apparel gets smaller, and more co,lex to build, the costs of material become a larger factor. Because their is less waste.
Also- there is no such thing as a 38 DDD bra, having the same cosntruction as a 34 A bra regradless of style.
large bras are made using more costly thread, they have additional panels, and often require more expensive materials that can take the stresses that will be applied...
Making them look similar in style is a hard trick to pull off.

Further, a size of two in a dress may only cost another inch or two of material to cut out... they both have the same number of buttons, same number of parts...
However, lining 8 inches of bra with lace is a lot cheaper than lining 18 inches of bra with lace.
And additional metal closure, or an underwire that is twice as heavy is also a real cost increase... and the difference between a 34 A and a triple E cup size in something as small as a bra may well mean 3 or 4 times the amount of material...
Those are REAL costs... extra labor, smaller orders, more materials, it adds up...
And WHY, exactly, should the flat chested girl have to shoulder that cost for the busty girls?

That being said, I can tell you that the HUGE jeans for fat folks DO cost more than the smaller jeans.
Walk into a big and tall men's shop and you can see that size DOES affect price.

But the bra is immaterial to the argument... the argument being forwarded is that you should pay for the Idea of a thing rather than its cost.

I would have said the "function" but there is no doubt that a 38DDD woman is asking a hell of a lot more function out of her bras than a 34 A.


So, please- explain to me how that notion... that Everyone Else should share the additional costs incurred by a small fraction of folks...

Seriously... give me a real argument... Manly couldn't, perhpas you can.

Or should EVERYONE have to pay the price reflected in the MOST COSTLY minority... just so those people don't feel they are being treated unfairly... that is, everyone get overcharged and the company making the goods get to keep the overage?

Cause, really, conservatives keep calling the wrong things socialism...
True socialism is equalization of pay and equalization of pricing to all citizens.

And what you and Manly are arguing is an absolutist argument that price should not be allowed to reflect cost.


So carry it thru... does that mean I can buy a Bently for the same price as I can buy a Malibu?

Or does it mean I end up paying the same for the Malibu as I would for the Bently?

'cause, y'know, they BOTH only haul your ass and a few others from place to place....

PS- Shoes are the same... You argue as if an inch or two of extra leather made a difference...
That is not the difference between a large bra and an average bra.

Try buying a size 18 shoe and see if the price is the same as for the Size 9.