SilverTrain
Legendary Member
Or perhaps we could all just keep trying to work out our issues without running away and taking our marbles home.
Should the south secede from the U.S?
- Thread starter Dave NoCal
- Start date
Or perhaps we could all just keep trying to work out our issues without running away and taking our marbles home.
Really?
How?
Suggestions??
I think New York City should secede from NY state, so it can fund itself, without the initial taxation it collects going to Albany, and waiting for Albany to decide on funding NYC....
Let the South go on its own...sure...will they have their own constitution? Will they revive that flag of the Confederacy? Will they declare Moonshine a national drink? Will you be allowed to have more than two teeth?
Let the South go on its own...sure...will they have their own constitution? Will they revive that flag of the Confederacy? Will they declare Moonshine a national drink? Will you be allowed to have more than two teeth?
Last edited:
SilverTrain
Legendary Member
Oh, I think I see.
South = toothless redneck hillbillies. So good riddance to them all.
And then,
Northeast = elitist snobs
Midwest = insulated, out-of-touch wasps
West = decadent commie hippies
Is that about it, then? Or are my generalizations off a bit?
South = toothless redneck hillbillies. So good riddance to them all.
And then,
Northeast = elitist snobs
Midwest = insulated, out-of-touch wasps
West = decadent commie hippies
Is that about it, then? Or are my generalizations off a bit?
Wow Zos, just when I was starting to like you. Maybe you and NoCal and Buildington should secede.
That sounds cozy.
Blago too, I guess. I don't know him, but I bet y'all get along just fine.
No I really don't think the South should go on its own. It just opens up a big can of worms, as I illustrated, and you've commented on. I've lived in the South for many many years, and I find my views at odds with the locals because of differences of opinion and education.
EI:
I find the Confederate flag a symbol of racism as used today, while the folks who display it means they don't like "Yankees" or "Washington liberals", and not being too keen on the history of their own region. In Camden Delaware some family displays the flag not to far from a Quaker Meeting House, which used to double over as a stop in the underground railroad.
Really? I'd be very interested to know where and for how long.
Which kinda illustrates my point. Unseemly as it may be to quote oneself, I would invite you to go back and read the rest of this if you missed it:
So you see what we're up against SilverTrain? And these are the reasonable and intelligent people.
Where are my marbles? I'm going home.
Last edited:
You left out gymfresh~~~ see the post below.
New York City has considered the secession idea at times. In the 1960s or early 1970s even there was the idea of 'The 51st State' which would have been the city and I think Long Island. although Long Island may have thought about doing this apart from the city and there is current talk of making upstate regions into a different state apart from the rest.
He included states which weren't mentioned in his commment "(give or take a few)" see the post below.
There's a great routine by David Cross who says he's met rednecks everywhere--Alaska, New York, Florida, California....the bit has a run and rhythm of words and how "they" all sound pretty much the same. The views and hostilities and objectivities all the same...as you said. The ignorance is all over.
I pretty much told you where I live.
I pretty much told you where I live.
um, I think GF was attempting a little humorous sarcasm there, but I don't know. Maybe you should ask him. Plus I never dis my Southern brothers, especially those proud patricians from Vaginyuh.
My, you are thorough, aren't you? Maybe you can tell me what people from which states are entirely lacking in a sense of humor?
And I still want to know why we didn't make the list. Not that I mind.
Last edited:
B_VinylBoy
Sexy Member
- Joined
- Nov 30, 2007
- Posts
- 10,363
- Media
- 0
- Likes
- 68
- Points
- 123
- Location
- Boston, MA / New York, NY
- Sexuality
- 90% Gay, 10% Straight
- Gender
- Male
I have no idea if Gymfresh was going for humor. It didn't read that way in the first go.
Yes I am thorough. You asked, I answered.
Why didn't Tennasea make the list? Because it borders a lot of states which did. And why no concern for Arkansas?
States lacking humor? Why don't you grace us with your wisdom on that one?
B_VinylBoy
Sexy Member
- Joined
- Nov 30, 2007
- Posts
- 10,363
- Media
- 0
- Likes
- 68
- Points
- 123
- Location
- Boston, MA / New York, NY
- Sexuality
- 90% Gay, 10% Straight
- Gender
- Male
Hey, they put a stripper in the Senate. Gotta appreciate the humor there!!!
Hey, that's cheating! You quoted me while I was editing it out so as not to offend.
{and I wish they'd gotten a better looking stripper~~he looks withered}
It certainly is. Actually some of the worst examples I've encountered were in pockets of San Diego county, where I lived for many years. Much worse than anything I ever experienced in the South.
Surely you don't mean Delaware. Please, it's next to New Jersey, and don't bother bringing up the Mason-Dixon line. The South is not lines on a map, it's a way of life and a state of mind.
B_VinylBoy
Sexy Member
- Joined
- Nov 30, 2007
- Posts
- 10,363
- Media
- 0
- Likes
- 68
- Points
- 123
- Location
- Boston, MA / New York, NY
- Sexuality
- 90% Gay, 10% Straight
- Gender
- Male
Sowwy! :redface:
I was born & raised in Taxachusetts. Love my home state but it does has issues.
True dat. I was thinking more on the lines of a Ramon Ragazzi type myself. :wink:
Like I said, you'll have to ask him.
Well I didn't ask you, I asked NoCal. And my question was perhaps not serious. I guess you'll have to ask me.
I find your logic confusing, as well as your spelling. I am not concerned for Arkansas. Arkansas does just fine.
I'm guessing you're from Massachusetts. And you left out Kentucky, neener neener.
Really do need ta go slop them hogs now. Y'all keep er goin.
Last edited:
*sigh* Virginia and Tennessee really were and still are the only aristocracies in the South. Just look at the fine national legislators they've each produced. And the genteel way we speak.
I've been doing some fascinating reading the last couple of years that attempts to explain the miserly, mean-spirited, irascible and occasionally homicidal streak found in that crescent from the Tarheel State to the Magnolia State. Seems a lot of it can be explained by genes. Who would have guessed?
But I digress. I honestly don't know what's holding this country together. Look at any electoral map and one has to wonder the same thing. I do believe the country as a whole will become more "liberal" and accepting of socialization as population density increases. It's a natural consequence of people learning to live together (or perish). The unsavory tendencies we're seeing today (like the inclination to quarantine certain segments of our population in "risk pools" for healthcare) are merely a consequence of the aforementioned irascible types feeling the inevitable squeeze.
The South, the topic of this thread, has numerous wonderful customs, quirks and recipes that I would like to see preserved. Could it function apart? Possibly/probably. Is it different enough to be better off as its own country? The differences are fewer and fewer all the time. It's a moot point anyway, because secession is not unilateral. There's the sticky question of consent from the part you secede from.
There is nothing wrong with regional pride. We Americans seem to have a dread fear and instinctive resistance to it, as if we'll balkanize. We never had to devolve, as Britain did to grant greater parliamentary powers to Scotland and Wales; we've been federalist from the get-go. But regions never took off. It's somehow OK for New Englanders to see themselves as clubby and insular, but everyone goes into a visceral, full-tilt panic when the South starts talking the same way. Don't even get me started on the flag thing.
The differences are still real. Whether that alone means we should become autonomous regions ("nations" in Catalan-speak) is by no means clear.
Similar threads
