Shutting Down ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by transformer_99, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. transformer_99

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    Wow, after reading this, sounds like America is closing shop ?

    Excite News - Fire moves into houses abandoned by foreclosures

    Probably a lot of that housing is better off bulldozed and replaced ? But at the prices today ? Who can afford to rent or buy them. The house that burned down was on tax foreclosure already, the property flippers no where to be found.

    Other news, saw where unemployment is at 10% in FL. This economy has to turn around sooner or later ?
     
  2. Flashy

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    unemployment is going to go up even further nationally, likely over 10%.

    California is already at 11.5%
    Florida is at 10.2%
    South Carolina is at 12.1%
    Michigan is at 14.1%
    Oregon is at 12.4%
    Nevada is at 11.3%

    to name a few

    there are 13 states over 10% unemployment at the moment

    Inflation is going up, so are gas prices.

    the economic recession is already slowing and we are no longer in freefall, the problem is, there may not be any recovery because of higher inflation, higher unemployment, higher oil prices etc.

    there may not be a "turnaround" for years.
    see my thread:

    http://www.lpsg.org/137144-here-comes-inflation-get-ready.html
     
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  3. transformer_99

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    Flashy, I've been feeling that inflation and now what is even worse, we go to work and hear how we have to find ways to give even more and be even more productive. It just really hits home, we were @ss raped along the way under Bush, under Obama we're heading right back into that, only now it's the threat that any day you report to work that day there's a distinct possibility you get blindsided by the axe of unemployment.
     
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    As a Canadian, a resident within the borders of your largest trading partner, my perspective is a bit different. The measures to "thicken" the world's longest undefended border are doing neither of us any good. Choosing to pursue a "buy American" policy complicates our trade relationship. We get hurt worse, because you are our largest trading partner too, and the proportion is bigger for us than for you and because you share two land borders with neighbors while we only have one.

    The fact is that Janet Reno appears to know less than nothing about the long and productive relationship between Canada and the U.S.A. Her repeated assertions that the border with Canada should be treated exactly the same as that with Mexico would be absurd and humorous, if they were not so destructive to us both. The auto industry is just one area where the combination of restrictive border movement has deepened the distress of an already vulnerable industry hit hard by poor management and the economic downturn.

    I don't know if you are all aware of this, but it is now the case that U.S. citizens need a passport to get back into their own country. You can come up here to fish and hunt and travel, but you need a passport to go home. One of us is acting very afraid of the other and ironically it is the big guy with the big weapons who is shaking in his boots. None of the 9-11 terrorists entered through Canada. Ms. Reno has had this explained to her numerous times but she does not seem to get it. We do not harbor terrorists. At the last count which I have seen, there were over 250 home grown terrorist groups known to be operating in the U.S.A. Most are total wingnut whack-jobs opposed to some kind of taxation, or pursuing secession of their particular backwoods outhouse from the union. They have set off bombs, derailed passenger trains and done other acts of terrorism. The threat is largely from within folks. Don't look to us for the source of your woes, and don't punish us for your bad image in the world.

    We like you as neighbors, we would not want any other people to share our border. We enjoy our friendship. But we are really tired of getting blamed and punished for what happens to you. Lets work together and help each other and try to resove some things so we can both get along with each other, and have a positive relationship with the rest of the world.

    And rememer who won the war of 1812. We would hate to have to come down there again and straighten you out. :wink:
     
  5. transformer_99

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    Naw it doesn't....people voted for change....and are getting it!
     
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    not closing shop. just recovering. this isnt the first time its happened to us and it wont be the last.
     
  8. Rikter8

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    Welcome to Michigan.

    The demolition crews you seek caught onto the states despair, and hiked their prices, double and sometimes triple since there are only a few Demo crews around.

    The cities can't afford to tear these homes down. So they sit.
    The Half burned homes if gutted by fire, but still standing - sit.
    Many homes are gutted of their copper plumbing and wire since it brings coin at the salvage yards.
    Likewise with aluminum siding - many homes are stripped as far as hands reach for the aluminum.
    So, even if you wanted one of these homes, you'll have to invest serious coin to get them livable again.

    Most of Flint is abandoned, mainly due to low income, or system leeches slowly devouring the structures that once were.

    These aren't homes you want. They are now Ghetto. Dangerous little wooden boxes ready to go at any time.

    Let the banks fall on their ass for their greed of cash and rigged loans.
    Let the houses burn.
    Let mother nature take it back.
     
  9. transformer_99

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    Rikter8, sounds a lot like the stories of the Iarq War, children rummaging thru bombed out buildings collecting scrap metal, the only thing missing is the war zone and bombed out buildings ?

    I can imagine the demolition crews hiking their rates. This is probably their day to turn good coin for their trade. What a mess ?
     
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