I always hear these experts onn sex talk about how penis size doesn't increase the quality of sex. All their explainations for why it doesn't are physical reasons. However, there wouldn't be size queens if penis size didn't effect sex in some way. Also, I think about how breasts make straight men more aroused, increasing their enjoyment of sex. So I'm wondering if you think that penis size increases your enjoyment of sex for physical reasons or for psychological ones.
Size Matters: Physical or Psychological
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curiouscat9
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I ran across your question earlier today and wanted to think about it for awhile. I am wondering why some of the more dedicated members haven't responded yet?
I am new to LPSG.org and though I have posted a few items, I am still trying to test the waters. I hope you find my response helpful. Here it goes...
I dont think it is a matter of either/or. It is both. Unfortunately, for people in todays society, pornography has propagated a one-size-fits-all ideology. However, historical documentation, especially in the Chinese and Indian cultures, discusses the importance of certain sized men being accommodated by certain types of women. Despite the euphemisms within the Kama Sutra and the sexual disciplines of Taoism, the right fit seems to be critical in order for the participants to fully experience what these handbooks were designed to enhance.
Personally, I have never had the opportunity to explore the size issue, as I have always chosen partners for their personality and sense of humor first. And none of my lovers has been endowed in the dimensions that seem to predominate this group. As I have never been the kind of girl that asks for a bank balance or penis size before I say yes, penis size has always fallen secondary to my actual attraction to the person and their skill at foreplay.
However, for the sake of this discussion you should know that the best lover and the worst lover I ever had were also the two smallest penises in my experience. The biggest penis Ive had would possibly fit into the lower size category of this group. Im not certain I could truly enjoy carnal knowledge with someone whos packing because I would find the size daunting. But that doesnt mean I wouldnt give it a go. For women, stimulation before sex is both physical and psychological. If I knew my lover was hung like some of you are, he would have to overcome and exploit the combination of surprise, fear, fascination, challenge, determination, and curiosity I would feel. Hed also have to discover my physical hot buttons (which Im not telling) that get me wet, wet, wet.
For the record, I have been in a committed relationship for several years and am very happy. This means that fortunately (or perhaps unfortunately) I will probably never have the chance to act on my fascination with a large, beautifully proportioned penis. Oh well, I guess that is what fantasy is for sigh!
It doesnt really matter anyway because my main desire from this group is to get straight answers to questions that no one else, either in person or online, seems inclined to respond to honestly. As a researcher, I know that knowledge cannot always be found in the library or between the pages. Sometimes, you need to learn it from the street. I am greatful to have found you all.
I am new to LPSG.org and though I have posted a few items, I am still trying to test the waters. I hope you find my response helpful. Here it goes...
I dont think it is a matter of either/or. It is both. Unfortunately, for people in todays society, pornography has propagated a one-size-fits-all ideology. However, historical documentation, especially in the Chinese and Indian cultures, discusses the importance of certain sized men being accommodated by certain types of women. Despite the euphemisms within the Kama Sutra and the sexual disciplines of Taoism, the right fit seems to be critical in order for the participants to fully experience what these handbooks were designed to enhance.
Personally, I have never had the opportunity to explore the size issue, as I have always chosen partners for their personality and sense of humor first. And none of my lovers has been endowed in the dimensions that seem to predominate this group. As I have never been the kind of girl that asks for a bank balance or penis size before I say yes, penis size has always fallen secondary to my actual attraction to the person and their skill at foreplay.
However, for the sake of this discussion you should know that the best lover and the worst lover I ever had were also the two smallest penises in my experience. The biggest penis Ive had would possibly fit into the lower size category of this group. Im not certain I could truly enjoy carnal knowledge with someone whos packing because I would find the size daunting. But that doesnt mean I wouldnt give it a go. For women, stimulation before sex is both physical and psychological. If I knew my lover was hung like some of you are, he would have to overcome and exploit the combination of surprise, fear, fascination, challenge, determination, and curiosity I would feel. Hed also have to discover my physical hot buttons (which Im not telling) that get me wet, wet, wet.
For the record, I have been in a committed relationship for several years and am very happy. This means that fortunately (or perhaps unfortunately) I will probably never have the chance to act on my fascination with a large, beautifully proportioned penis. Oh well, I guess that is what fantasy is for sigh!
It doesnt really matter anyway because my main desire from this group is to get straight answers to questions that no one else, either in person or online, seems inclined to respond to honestly. As a researcher, I know that knowledge cannot always be found in the library or between the pages. Sometimes, you need to learn it from the street. I am greatful to have found you all.
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I think that a lot of people - especially the posers - come here for the psychological reasons. Really, how much of a role can the physical aspect play in a web site? A good portion of LPSG comes off as a fantasy world.
When you get in the real world and you are really having sex, the physical aspect is everything. Take, for example, the contrast between my wife of 12 years and the first relationship of any duration I had after the marriage ended. With my wife, size of always an issue. I couldn't penetrate her completely without causing discomfort or pain. I always had to be aware of her dimensions. You can't really fuck hard when you are only able to use 2/3 of your cock. She had a small mouth, too, and had difficulty with much other than very basic oral, covering the first few inches. She even gagged on this much if we weren't careful. Most of her BJ technique was licking.
In contrast, my next girlfriend raved about my ability to "go deep," often grabbing my ass and pulling me in further as we fucked. Though she had a very snug vagina, it clearly expanded to a much greater depth than my wife's did. She also had no problems with oral - even to tbe point of deep throat. Though I always thought I had a pretty good sex life with my ex, I can now tell you that I much prefer the kind of sex I had with this girlfriend. We were a good fit.
There is no one size fits all answer here. It's not that hard to figure out.
When you get in the real world and you are really having sex, the physical aspect is everything. Take, for example, the contrast between my wife of 12 years and the first relationship of any duration I had after the marriage ended. With my wife, size of always an issue. I couldn't penetrate her completely without causing discomfort or pain. I always had to be aware of her dimensions. You can't really fuck hard when you are only able to use 2/3 of your cock. She had a small mouth, too, and had difficulty with much other than very basic oral, covering the first few inches. She even gagged on this much if we weren't careful. Most of her BJ technique was licking.
In contrast, my next girlfriend raved about my ability to "go deep," often grabbing my ass and pulling me in further as we fucked. Though she had a very snug vagina, it clearly expanded to a much greater depth than my wife's did. She also had no problems with oral - even to tbe point of deep throat. Though I always thought I had a pretty good sex life with my ex, I can now tell you that I much prefer the kind of sex I had with this girlfriend. We were a good fit.
There is no one size fits all answer here. It's not that hard to figure out.
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I think it really depends on the size difference. If a woman sleep with average guy about 6 inches, then the next guy you sleep with is 6.5 inches. It's not likely she'll feel some huge difference in the physical part of sex. If she slept with someone that's 6 inches, then me (10.5 inches). It is likely she'll feel me more physically.
Also there are women that just have larger pussy's. Just like most guys are between 5 and 7 inches, and there guys like us here in the club. I have heard girls are the same way. Most girls are average, some have small pussys and average is large to them, and some women have large pussy's where average just doesn't do it for them.
Also there are women that just have larger pussy's. Just like most guys are between 5 and 7 inches, and there guys like us here in the club. I have heard girls are the same way. Most girls are average, some have small pussys and average is large to them, and some women have large pussy's where average just doesn't do it for them.
As a geezer i have no idea what goes through females minds when it comes to penis size. I quess it is a matter of preference to women in general. I know girls who will not bother with you unless you have a big one and i have met girls who are more into the person and a large penis would be a bonus. The thing is there is no definate answer, people are too complex to come up with a yes or no reply. On the other side of the spectrum some men only like women with large breasts, however, personally physical attraction is my thing, get to know a person before you judge them and maybe sparks could fly. :toast:
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I like this analogy, it makes sense and explains a lot. Could the % of men with a certain penis size correlate with the % of women with a certain pussy size?
Although this notion contains flaws as the vagina can ofcourse stretch, I think it could hold some merit.
I like this analogy, it makes sense and explains a lot. Could the % of men with a certain penis size correlate with the % of women with a certain pussy size?
Although this notion contains flaws as the vagina can ofcourse stretch, I think it could hold some merit.
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Well, I don't think correlate's the word you're looking for. Correlate means that as X increases, Y increases. Or as X increases, Y decreases. A correlation coefficient of 1 or -1 is perfect. Note: Correlations can only be used for linear (y=ax+b) functions. But maybe you mean the percentage is similar.
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Gee, where were you when I needed a math tutor? Let's see, umm 9 x 7 is 24, right? Or do I still need some help Mr. jonb?
I think its a mixture. I've had girls say that sex with me was great, it may have been entirely psychological or emotional but I do think my penis helped.
I also believe that the psychological aspect is to do with emotions and not thinking 'I've got a big penis inside me woohoo!'. The physical feeling of the penis is probably what matters most, otherwise every woman would be content with a big dildo
I also believe that the psychological aspect is to do with emotions and not thinking 'I've got a big penis inside me woohoo!'. The physical feeling of the penis is probably what matters most, otherwise every woman would be content with a big dildo
i think it's a mix, i'm not hung but my partners never got unsatisfied but sex isn't just pulling something inside there, there is foreplay, chemistry, talking, hands and, in my opinion, penetration is just a percentage of the entire thing.
honestly i'll say that, for us men, once one is over 6" it's a mix btw psyco and phisical matter, under those sizes the concern is more phisical than phisiologycal and the reason, always in my opinion, is that we can access porno contents too easy and we are surrounded by those huge cocks that make ours look not small but tiny :-(
we should realize that those are exceptions (apologize my english please) and also that before going to finish a scene for those guys it needs more than one try...
honestly i'll say that, for us men, once one is over 6" it's a mix btw psyco and phisical matter, under those sizes the concern is more phisical than phisiologycal and the reason, always in my opinion, is that we can access porno contents too easy and we are surrounded by those huge cocks that make ours look not small but tiny :-(
we should realize that those are exceptions (apologize my english please) and also that before going to finish a scene for those guys it needs more than one try...
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It is exactly what I mean. As the penis size increases (x) the % of men decreases, I am wondering if this correlates at the same rate the % of women with a naturally big vagina (y) decrease also.
But even if its the wrong word...my thinking is they say a seven incher is one in 10...so maybe a vagina with such size that it cannot be satisfied with anything less than 7 is also 1 in 10. Likewise an 8 incher is something like 1 in 100, could a woman who cannot be satisfied with anything less then 8 also be 1 in 100?
It is exactly what I mean. As the penis size increases (x) the % of men decreases, I am wondering if this correlates at the same rate the % of women with a naturally big vagina (y) decrease also.
But even if its the wrong word...my thinking is they say a seven incher is one in 10...so maybe a vagina with such size that it cannot be satisfied with anything less than 7 is also 1 in 10. Likewise an 8 incher is something like 1 in 100, could a woman who cannot be satisfied with anything less then 8 also be 1 in 100?
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I have no idea if I have more fun and satisfaction with my 11 than a guy swinging less (no length specified).
I know that when the "fit works" I have a hell of a time with the feeling of being turned inside out. Luv It!
Even spending the next hour or so, unkinking my toes all goes to the "feeling" and satisfaction in realizing my partner is in recovery also. The initial hurtin feeling of having pumped and ounce or two of burning hot sauce into or onto my loved one of the evening, gradually gives way to a cooling sensation that offers a calming.
I did'nt have a pacemaker defibrillator at the time so sparks did'nt fly.
HAVING A COCK is good/great/wonderful, compared to the alternative (for a guy at least).
blackwood
My wife and I talked about this one and wed both like to respond not only to CelestialFurys question but to comments made by Curiouscat9.
The question as to whether penis size increases enjoyment for physical or psychological reasons is directed to those celestialfury labels size queens. We suppose only size queens must answer for themselves. My wife is not a size queen. Like curiouscat9, my wife's choice of partners was based mainly on the softer qualities of personality, etc. We were on our way to developing an emotional relationship before the questions and issues of penis size were put into play. That was fortunate for me/us. CC9 hit the mark when she noted the factors of surprise, fear, fascination, challenge though she may be unaware of things like discomfort and embarrassment and other emotions both my wife and I faced. My wife fully admits that the purely physical aspect of sex with me is different from earlier partners though she is cautious about saying its better or worse. Shell say now that its better but at first it was worse. A lot of things happened between worse and better, some we wont go into here but some has to do with CC9s notion of hot buttons. Were certainly learned the hows and whys of pleasing each other though we dont agree that its limited to well endowed partners. All couples need to explore these things in one another if they are to maximize sexual pleasure. Most importantly, we have a long term stable relationship based on mutual respect and love.
This site and others are testament that some people are attracted by the size of a man's penis. For many women (as this was posted in Women's Issues) the preference is borne from the array of men they've experienced and most have indicated that, all else being equal, they choose larger dicked men. However they also qualify that a big dick with a big dick would not be the guy of their dreams. How many size queens have found their perfect man? The search for the perfect penis may be a psychological crutch for some unable or unwilling to commit to relationships for a host of other reasons. Whatever the reason, those presupposed to prefer a man with a larger penis will in all likelihood enjoy larger men to smaller men. It might be deemed a self-fulfilling prophesy. In this way the physical component is supported by the psychological and visa versa. Those who are not size queens can also find pleasure and carnal happiness with well endowed men just as they do with men who are not.
The question as to whether penis size increases enjoyment for physical or psychological reasons is directed to those celestialfury labels size queens. We suppose only size queens must answer for themselves. My wife is not a size queen. Like curiouscat9, my wife's choice of partners was based mainly on the softer qualities of personality, etc. We were on our way to developing an emotional relationship before the questions and issues of penis size were put into play. That was fortunate for me/us. CC9 hit the mark when she noted the factors of surprise, fear, fascination, challenge though she may be unaware of things like discomfort and embarrassment and other emotions both my wife and I faced. My wife fully admits that the purely physical aspect of sex with me is different from earlier partners though she is cautious about saying its better or worse. Shell say now that its better but at first it was worse. A lot of things happened between worse and better, some we wont go into here but some has to do with CC9s notion of hot buttons. Were certainly learned the hows and whys of pleasing each other though we dont agree that its limited to well endowed partners. All couples need to explore these things in one another if they are to maximize sexual pleasure. Most importantly, we have a long term stable relationship based on mutual respect and love.
This site and others are testament that some people are attracted by the size of a man's penis. For many women (as this was posted in Women's Issues) the preference is borne from the array of men they've experienced and most have indicated that, all else being equal, they choose larger dicked men. However they also qualify that a big dick with a big dick would not be the guy of their dreams. How many size queens have found their perfect man? The search for the perfect penis may be a psychological crutch for some unable or unwilling to commit to relationships for a host of other reasons. Whatever the reason, those presupposed to prefer a man with a larger penis will in all likelihood enjoy larger men to smaller men. It might be deemed a self-fulfilling prophesy. In this way the physical component is supported by the psychological and visa versa. Those who are not size queens can also find pleasure and carnal happiness with well endowed men just as they do with men who are not.
I believe that women get excited of the look of a large penis. I had girls that love taking showers with me and fondling my dong. It is an obvious sign that she is with a man when a large penis can clearly be seen. As for sex, it sometimes hurts or they simply love it. I have no doubt that a normal size guy could get done what I do sexually, yet some girls especially look for the large cock.
I would say that it's more physical (at least for me), as there are certain parts of me that he's not hitting if his penis is below a certain length. So I'm looking for a sensation that I'm not getting, which can be a tad bit, umm, disappointing, for lack of a better word off the top of my head.
I think psychological more than physical ... I think %90 of sex is in our brain otherwise we could get satisfied with some sextoys... but we are not...we like sharing,showing,impressing,feeling,smelling...etc
girls prefer big cause , big looks better, manly , symbol to explain power ,
and rarely in the world
girls prefer big cause , big looks better, manly , symbol to explain power ,
and rarely in the world
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I think you can split it 50/50 for this simply on the basis that need to know exactly where you stand with it before proceeding with anything.
Interesting.
I haven't yet heard that, "penis size doesn't increase the quality of sex",
but I have heard discussions about the discomfort (detracting from sexual pleasure) of a large penis.
Yup.
I believe the size queens enjoy both the physical and psychological.
I am wired psychologically to respond physically, unintentionally to the sight and touch of full breasts. I enjoy playing with them, pleasing the owner, and observing the restrained fluid motion as she gets slammed.
IMO:
1. I believe that most women would prefer as large a penis as she can comfortably accommodate.
However
2. penis size is NOT a priority with most women. Lots of OTHER things inspire and weigh more heavily on her enjoying sexual pleasures.
3. Inexperienced women tend to postpone sex with a big guy. Once they've experience it - the worry seems to dissipate. But not all women are the same.
4. There are Many Reasons why a woman may not be able to have sex, or sex with a thick guy, physically and psychologically.
With me, it's definitely physical. When I first saw that massive bulge in my boyfriend's pants, I was shocked, but felt no sexual stimulation. Likewise when I first saw him nude. I was simply stunned. But when he entered me, I went bananas. My vagina is so spacious that my ex-husband of 17 years and my boyfriends before him felt nothing,--and neither did I. My boyfriend's penis is just over 10 inches in circumference, and he has no difficulty entering me. We're certainly made for each other, but definitely not for anyone else. Alexia
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I have had girlfriends in the dim and distant past, who physically needed size and some who physically didn't but had made up their minds that they did.
I remember with one girl it took us three nights to achieve penetration (and I'm just big not huge), but she was determined to have a boyfriend with a big cock. In almost all other things she was highly intelligent, rational and pragmatic.
I've posted before asking whether women would want to know their ideal size, but got little response - perhaps its a Pandora's box?
Men (I'm thinking from a personal perspective) are conditioned to consider it their responsibility to satisfy women - is it the same for women? and therefore an issue to be avoided if they find themselves too large for their chosen partner. It can't be the easiest subject to broach with a partner who satisfies in so many other ways, that his dimensions aren't meeting your physical requirements.
So maybe most women think it best to keep the lid on the box?
It would be great to be honest enough for our cultures to get to the point where men wouldn't be traumatised by someone saying - "I love you, I want only you, but will you fuck my brains out with this nine by seven black strap on!"
PS - "only if I can shag you up the arse afterwards!!"
I remember with one girl it took us three nights to achieve penetration (and I'm just big not huge), but she was determined to have a boyfriend with a big cock. In almost all other things she was highly intelligent, rational and pragmatic.
I've posted before asking whether women would want to know their ideal size, but got little response - perhaps its a Pandora's box?
Men (I'm thinking from a personal perspective) are conditioned to consider it their responsibility to satisfy women - is it the same for women? and therefore an issue to be avoided if they find themselves too large for their chosen partner. It can't be the easiest subject to broach with a partner who satisfies in so many other ways, that his dimensions aren't meeting your physical requirements.
So maybe most women think it best to keep the lid on the box?
It would be great to be honest enough for our cultures to get to the point where men wouldn't be traumatised by someone saying - "I love you, I want only you, but will you fuck my brains out with this nine by seven black strap on!"
PS - "only if I can shag you up the arse afterwards!!"
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