"Sluts" and "Whores"

[Tattooed Goddess]

You aren't watching mainstream straight porn then. And you havent been around here as long as i've been here and i've seen tons of posts regarding males telling females how their bodies should react- squirt, orgasm from penetration alone, etc.

Just because i find blatant disrespect for females to be disrespectful doesn't make me out of the ordinary.

I can tell we will get along just peachy!

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Obviously you like to argue about how your life varies from this standard of mainstream porn. Do what you like in your bedroom, no one says you can't enjoy it. But i know there is a trend in why women don't typically like porn and it is how we are portrayed and treated. I'm a huge pornography fan and i'm getting tired of it. I see more respect in extreme forms of porn than the generic shitty mass produced garbage that is mainstream today.

 

[Axcess]

Like most males I watch porn sometimes but to me is a fantasy . In real life I would never do most of the things that those guys do to woman in the movies . I agree with most of the posters in this thread . Porn is mostly a fantasy but one one thing about it is real . Guys that treat woman like crap in real life are the ones the get laid the most . Guys that treat woman well or nice guys usually not go anywhere with most woman . Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that to get laid guys must treat woman like in many porn movies . That's really extreme . I like to treat woman well , I can't treat woman like crap . The reality is that my jerks friends really get laid a lot.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

I dont speak for every woman, i speak for a lot of women. And i look at any of the major porn hubs such as yuvutu.com, youporn.com, redtube.com, xtube.com and i check them many times a day and they have the latest published videos from mainstream porn companies as well as amateur. The titles often suggest that calling women "slut" and "whore" is going to be mainstream.

Our ideas of what we find acceptable often have to do with how we are raised. These words were used to describe a worthless meaningless person that no one would miss if she disappeared from the streets. I see we are from different parts of the world, raised in different families and married different types of men. Our sexual past has a lot to do with how we see ourself and others.

I am more aggressive sexually and i pick more sexually conservative partners because our personas meld well. It was a major insult to be called "bitch" "slut" "whore"

What used to be confined to fetish porn (which i thoroughly enjoy by the way) has been skewed into some shitty version of what was sub/dom conversation between someone who obviously enjoyed playing the counterpart to the other.

When i see the typical "frat boy" or "unkept" middle aged male paired with a stereotypical female porn actress who just happened to make it through auditions because she can take a face fuck on cam like a pro and can manage to tune out any shit given to her....

Maybe i need to find out where you are getting your porn, because obviously i don't have a clue where to find the good stuff.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Shrek and Princess Fiona is a perfect description of a lot of porn i've seen. It's been explains here time and time again about how men are threatened by the site of another man, so they like the POV porn that doesnt even show the mans face. I have to admit when i see an ugly dude in porn- even if he has a hot body- i lose all interest. Not because i cant look at an ugly man, but he's paired with some idealistic specimen of a female. It's truly insulting. Like a woman like her would look twice at a man like that in real life....only if he made a lot of money.

I don't have much respect for the women in mainstream, they are embarassing to watch- especially when they all hit the same note of "Nnnnnyeah" when getting pounded reverse cowgirl. It's so predictible.

My husband used to watch porn with me and now he has zero interest "Here comes another facial finish...."

 

[javyn]

David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.

Maybe my friends are like me and i certainly dont fit that stereotype. I just happened to be blessed with a gentleman who is also very attractive. I've dated not so attractive gentlemen because it was more important to me to be treated like a lady. That's something my Dad taught me and my mom showed me by choosing my dad who is much older than she is for her 2nd marriage, because he valued her.

 

[javyn]

Kotch, the worst is the running commentary by the dumbass cameraman in those bangbros videos. Completely retarded.

But anyway, yeah I enjoy some of the 'bad' porn, such as the cumfest videos, cock slapping, throat gagging, etc....and guess what, I've been with my gf over a year now and I still open every door for her and treat her better than any man has ever treated her before, that's coming from her mouth.

Our love can be sweet, passionate, or deep, or it can be completely brutal. Sometimes a mix of both. I agree with you up to a point Rouge, just don't go calling something misogynistic when it's enjoyed and encouraged by the lady.

Sure I call my woman a slut when I'm fucking her...that's the fastest way to make her cum. Naturally I don't think of her as such, then again, I don't think of any woman as a whore.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

I also vote for taking out the Technicolor. Making everyone look bronzed and their clothing fluorescent reflects reality as much as Saved By The Bell represented highschool.

 

[Axcess]

David, you are pretty much right on. I used to be a nice guy once, until I woke up and realized that what women SAY they want and how to be treated is completely different than how they REALLY want to be treated. In other words, action speaks louder than words. Every girl will say she wants a nice guy, but they all say that while they date jerks.

Misogyny sucks certainly, but it's even more sad that it's biggest supports are in fact women.

edit: There is nothing wrong with calling someone a slut, or cock slapping, or spitting, if that's what you both are into.

That's right . Most woman say one thing but they USUALLY think the opposite . Guys must ignore what they said and pay attention what they do . Most say that they want nice guys but most want jerks bad boy guys . Some woman really like nice guys but I believe that they are an slim minority.

 

[Axcess]

Maybe my friends are like me and i certainly dont fit that stereotype. I just happened to be blessed with a gentleman who is also very attractive. I've dated not so attractive gentlemen because it was more important to me to be treated like a lady. That's something my Dad taught me and my mom showed me by choosing my dad who is much older than she is for her 2nd marriage, because he valued her.

You are like most ladies should be . In my logic people should not want to treat them badly . That's crazy and that actually says that something is really wrong with the person .

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

You are like most ladies should be . In my logic people should not want to treat them badly . That's crazy and that actually says that something is really wrong with the person .

I forget sometimes what it must be like for men in the dating scene when looking at what women want from them. It can be very confusing and paradoxical at best.

 

[javyn]

It is Rouge. Thing is...jerks aren't born, they are made.

 

[Ethyl]

Oooo I have another one while we're pulling apart porn..

Can we please please pretty please get rid of hot pink lycra clothing? It makes my eyes hurt when they switch to a new girl and she's wearing that, the bastards never take it off either

You mean when they pull the thong over to the side 'cause they can't be bothered to take it off? And what's with some of these girls wearing dopey stuff like cowboy hats and high heels together?

For the record, I've kept it on mute for years as well. Hate that, 'cause the sound of a man's voice is heaven to my ears.

 

[B_ScaredLittleBoy]

In the real world:

If a woman whom a man wants to sleep with refuses him, she's a slut

If a woman pisses off another woman, she's a slut

If a woman cheats on a man (particularly with numerous partners), she's a whore

If a woman steals another woman's boyfriend, she's a whore

In porn...

"Slut" and whore are the selling points. Catchphrases. If they were taken out then porn wouldn't be as exciting or different.

Intelligent people don't let porn, which is a fantasy, enter into reality.

 

[Industrialsize]

I've noticed this disrespect that porn is renowned for is spilling over into the amateur community. I've never liked the slut and whore titles and dialogue but it bothers me that a man would refer to his wife as such.

I've talked porn with many different males, any that find this kind of talk in porn to be repulsive, also notices the general misogynistic nature of professional porn. He tends to not enjoy watching a woman be seen as a mere "cum dumpster" and has no desire to mimic that sort of behavior in the bedroom.

The males whom i've talked to who do find nothing wrong with it tend to have some pretty messed up relationships with the females around them. Most of the guys i've seen brag on these sort of things or talk about these things as their ultimate fantasy, tend to repel women from them because they treat them in a condescending way.

I cringe when i see a guy talk about his fantasies about humiliating a woman in front of his peers. Maybe my own sexually abusive past makes me so sensitive to the sexual disrespect i'm seeing as mainstream and among amateurs.

Vintage porn didn't show as much of the following:

• Slapping a womans face with his cock
• Requiring oral sex from her with no reciprocation
• Mass numbers of males cumming on her face
• Ass to mouth
• No lubrication prior to intercourse (even anal sex)
• A blantant disreguard for her pussy such as slapping it, slapping her tits (which is not generally pleasurable)
• Spitting on her face
• Forced face fucking
• Gagging her
• Calling her names
• Unrealistic views on the female body to the point where its sexier to be too skinny than to have 5 extra pounds on your ass
• Digustingly large rippling implants
• Faking is more popular because women have to fake being turned on when they are being spat on, throat fucked and called a slut at the same time
• Insane insertions to further push the pussy/ass to the limit and/or humiliate her
• Pubic hair has to be non-existent or shaped in a way that is difficult to maintain in order to do away with anything naturally pleasing about the female genitalia.

With the advent of internet porn and access to unlimited amounts of it for free there is going to be a new culture/generation of males who are not going to know how sex is a delicate dance between the male and female. Not a one way, give it to me, I'll do with you how i please, act that is solely about your cock and balls.

I was very fortunate to be paired with males who were respectful to me during sex and most of the time in every day life. I married a man who would cut off his balls before he'd call me a whore in the bedroom. Maybe there are a few of you who like this or are married to women who like this, but i have a feeling most women would refuse to be compared to a whore or a slut but rather more pleasing descriptions if we are hungry for your body in the bedroom.

I feel there is more psychological damage done to males and females who find this sort of trend to be acceptable. This is in no way talking about submission and domination agreements between people who participate in that and get turned on by humiliation. Those are a special breed who are ignited by it. I am talking about mainstream everyday pornography found on xtube, redtube, youporn, etc.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it, male and female.

Am I a pervert? All of the things you listed I love to have a hot alpha male do TO me....yikes!

 

[Industrialsize]

Yes you're a pervert, but we love you for it :biggrin1:

Just checking.....but i agree, there must be an entirely different dynamic when this activity goes on between a man and a woman unless they ARE both into the whole role play aspect of it.

 

[jrad]

I couldnt agree more with most everything that Kotch and Rouge are saying in this post.

Then comes the mans perspective and I agree with what Hingdave is saying as well. In the real world women can be very confusing.

It all comes down to fantasy vs reality. What is your fantasy and what is your reality. I find the abusive nature of many porn fantasies NO FUN and I turn it off.

I find the amature porn or reality porn much prefered to the current production stuff. I like what Rouge has done because it is more erotic and really not porn at all in my mind.

The best part of all of this is that if you don't like it, and it doesnt turn you on, you can turn it off!

Keep up the good work everyone...I like this place.

J

 

[tripod]

Oooo I have another one while we're pulling apart porn..

Can we please please pretty please get rid of hot pink lycra clothing? It makes my eyes hurt when they switch to a new girl and she's wearing that, the bastards never take it off either

Tripod goes and returns his new pink lycra unitard for fear of making Kotch's eyes hurt.

Hitting the same note... that reminds me of the things I hate most in porn:

1. Seriously hot guy with average at best dick and she's screaming "Fuck my tight wet cunt with your huge dick" How am I meant to get off while I'm laughing so hard I'm crying?

That is one of the best benefits of a lpsg membership, I get to watch straight porn that has guys with genuinely big cocks fucking appreciative females... I am soooo with ya on that!!!!

You mean when they pull the thong over to the side 'cause they can't be bothered to take it off? And what's with some of these girls wearing dopey stuff like cowboy hats and high heels together?

Clearly a cowboy hat needs cowboy boots to go with it. I have NEVER had a woman pull her undies to the side and say, "Fuck me like a slut!" Nor have I ever had to fuck a pussy so fast that I couldn't get their knickers off in time... damn if that wouldn't chafe like a mofo!!!

 

[B_New End]

Most of the performers in porn, amateur or otherwise are sluts or strippers or "buying" drugs. That's the reality.

• Slapping a womans face with his cock

I learned it from "devil in Ms. Jones" And it was a hot scene. I love doing it, and my ex loved it. Not all the time, of course, but its just role play, and she was disappointed if her boyfriends were not aggressive enough to do it.

• Requiring oral sex from her with no reciprocation

watching a guy go down on a girl usually is boring.

• Mass numbers of males cumming on her face

I must admit, as humiliating as it is, sometimes I love me some bukkakke.

• Ass to mouth

foul!

• No lubrication prior to intercourse (even anal sex)

lubrication!? Boo! lubrication like spit means shes not turned on!

• A blantant disreguard for her pussy such as slapping it, slapping her tits (which is not generally pleasurable)

hmm... slapping with what?

• Spitting on her face
• Forced face fucking
• Gagging her
• Calling her names

foul

• Unrealistic views on the female body to the point where its sexier to be too skinny than to have 5 extra pounds on your ass
• Digustingly large rippling implants

this really isnt in amateur I have seen.

• Faking is more popular because women have to fake being turned on when they are being spat on, throat fucked and called a slut at the same time
• Insane insertions to further push the pussy/ass to the limit and/or humiliate her

again, you are being jaded by pseudo amateur porn, I think. Which is porn using strippers or prostitutes, and telling them to pose as wifes or girlfriends... or drugs are being exchanged for services, (see prostitutes)

• Pubic hair has to be non-existent or shaped in a way that is difficult to maintain in order to do away with anything naturally pleasing about the female genitalia.

matter of opinion. I think younger women do not shave, out of shame of admitting they want to be played with, and older women do. Its a part of adult hygiene, like cutting your hair, or shaving your legs, or shaving your face.