Small guy with huge bf

[madame_zora]

I think it's absolutely precious that you feel at ease with us enough to share these very private thoughts. One of the nice things about the anonymity of the internet, no?

 

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carolinacurious:

" I tend to get disturbed by the amount of men in general gay and supposedly straight that hit on him."

vs.

"As far as me talking to others on here: I'm not trying to get jiggy with anyone."

I thought Herbie was talking about stuff in your hometown. Personally, I'd say (Herbie) don't let stuff on here get to you although everyone has differing opinions on how this new 'internets' thing impacts our relationships.

"I am versitile, I like both and require both. From what Herble has always TOLD me, he is of the same likeness. Now, i'm seeing in this post him saying otherwise."

vs.

"... he kinda thinks I'm a bottom for somereason and I really dont overly enjoy that. I mean I do on occasion ..."

Herbie sounds (at least like he is describing being) versatile to me.


Good luck you two.

CC

 

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Herble: :blink: I called him at work I am however, really impressed with everyone's interpretation of our 2 statements and it is giving interesting insight so please continue to do so.

Oh and Thanks too

 

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TripodMillenium: *hugs them both* ^^

 

[ashlar]

Originally posted by TripodMillenium@Dec 20 2004, 03:44 AM
*hugs them both* ^^

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*huggles backerz*

 

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Herble: Hug me hug me!!

 

[ashlar]

Originally posted by Herble@Dec 20 2004, 12:20 PM
Hug me hug me!!

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What are you all uppity about ... you get more than hugs when you'r a good boy ... or when you naughty in a very good way ;P

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by ashlar@Dec 19 2004, 04:19 PM
Everyone has made some very intresting and valid points as well as suggestions.
I'll add what I can, although admittedly i'm not feeling well today and thus I promise to be extreamly chaotic with this post

I am versitile, I like both and require both. From what Herble has always TOLD me, he is of the same likeness. Now, i'm seeing in this post him saying otherwise.

*in as non bitchy a tone as possible I say* Consistancey, please.

Romanticisim is something I feel I'm being denied, which I've grown to resent, and I've made this no secret to ANYONE. In my mind, this is one of the larger issues, I find myself being less and less romantic (I think so anyways) because I don't feel i'm getting my fair share, and i'm not completely certain why that is, or at least in my current headspace it's not comming to me.

Fantasies: Yes .. I have them. Yes I'm open to discussing them, with anyone and everyone, not to bitch about not having them fufilled though that does happen, but to gain inside and ideas from others who have been in similar situations as far as the fantasy itself, as well as the relationship aspects. While many of my fantasies have been approached, it has not been in a serious manner ... it's all been very tongue in cheek. Thats fine, I've no problem with giggling and experimentation ... I'm all for that, but whatever your going to do, no matter what that may be ... MEAN IT. Does that make sense?

Communication: I'm all for communication, I'm constantly communicating whenever I can think straight, which at times seems seldom. However, please keep the agression to a minimum, when I see agression I get defensive, when I get defensive I can get unnessicarily cruel. Despite how many people choose to view me as sweet, the truth is i'm much more, like anyone else I have what some may consider to be faults, while others may not, one of which is most certainly my bitchyness. I spent a large portion of my life ... a good 19 years of it ... being walked upon and letting people back me into corners, this is the likely cause of my often overly domineering nature. I do not wish to argue or become aggressive, however if I feel the slightest push, i'll push back 10 fold without thinking ... hence the occasional foot in mouth syndrome. Aside from that, and perhaps in bed, I don't feel as though I'm an overly aggressive person unless i'm annoyed with shit and then I blow up easily though no fault of Herble's, Those times are probably the times when I MOST need to be held and loved and once that has calmed me down, I'll be more open to discussion, or perhaps after a nap, a hot bath, and/or a sound shagging.

I am a bitch at times, oh yes indeedy, I am very sweet ... I'll buy that too, I'm moody, introspective, difficult, and childish. Loving me, means loving that as well. I'm sure Herble will recall ... "All my light ... love my dark" ... EVERYTHING.
If at any point anyone does not feel up to the challange of dealing with me, just let me know, arrangements can be made for a time out, or whatever may be nessicary. I know i'm difficult to deal with, I have a hard time dealing with me sometimes. I realize i'm not always the brightest apple in the bunch, often times not; that I do some stupid shit; that i've done some things that are horrible, and i've no problem admitting my faults as I percieve them. However, this does not give anyone the right to use those things against me on a daily and often hourly basis, I still am as worthy as anyone else of respect and forgivness. In the grand scheme of things, I could be widely reguarded angelic in compairisin to the etrocities commited by others on a scale far larger than I can conceieve of.

I understand that Herble and I are beginning anew, and that there is fear inhearant in beginnings. I am WILLING, not merely TOLERANT, but WILLING to deal with that for better or for worse, for i've enough love in my heart to consume the very soul of another who holds the keys to such power. I'm even willing to GIVE those keys up, but one must be willing and open to accepting them though acceptance of who and what I am, understanding, and above all things love; and once a key is given, please use it, i beg of you.

The public, the forums, my correspondances: I've no problem discussing these things, or any other things, in a public forum such as this. I feel a certain amount of safety in that, and with our privacy issues at home, and our conflicting work scheduals, this works for me, with or without the input of others. It's funny that I feel privacy in a public forum such as this, but I believe the key lies within the fact that this is online, it's fairly anonymous, it's quiet, and I can turn it on and off, deal with things when i'm ready and able to deal with them. Also, there is a tacit understanding between myself, and the others who read and corrospond with me, and I am thankful for that.

As far as me talking to others on here: I'm not trying to get jiggy with anyone. I am attracted on whim to various things and people for various reasons, if that attraction were as great, or more so, than that which I hold for Herble, I would not be sitting here in this room, in this place, right now. Yes, i enjoy a bit of the attention sometimes, and sometimes I even dare to think I deserve it.

Yes, I end up being a bit of a flirt sometimes. TOATLLY cant help that ... I don't even have to try and it happens, and to be perfectly honest it's nice to know that i'm desireable even when neither party has any intention to act upon that desire for whatever reasons. I'm not taking it to a dark place, or to any extream, i've no illicit intentions, and even if that were the case, everyone is far far far away from me unfortunately, as this is my only outlet as far as friends are concerned save for one from school (kristyn). Those that I choose to communicate with are not trying to push or pull me into anything, and if I feel that to be the case, I simply stop communicating. Sometimes, I just don't realize it untill later rather than sooner. I want to be a bit nieve again, I want to believe that people are truely intrested in me, who I am, etc. etc. and sometimes that desire gets the better of me. Experience, has shown me to act with care, while still being able to love. Also, this gives me something to do when i'm board and need a break from everything I SHOULD be doing.

If at any point Herble needs my full attention, or to discourse, all he need do is ask me and I will wrap up my conversation or post on here and my undivided attention will be soly upon him. I've made this as clear as I can. I will not consider that an act of disrespect twords my being. However, attempting to jump my shit no matter what, or yap at me while i'm in the middle of something without respecting enough to give me a moment to finish up, will have adverse effects upon anyone who attempts as such.

I can yap, type, write, scream, open a veign, and bleed myself dry and still not be able to articulate the specifics of my being to any one person unless they are able, and most certainly WILLING to simply understand. I require reflection, introspection, time, and patience. If me posting, chatting, whatever on here, bothers Herble he can ask me to stop, and I will untill he's confident in my intentions, or untill I go mad(der?) if that be required.

Moral of this melodramatic tale:

Give me the moon, and I will take you to the heart of the sun.

"Jangle Jangle
Jingle Jangle
Jangle then circle again"

*NOte: I'm not spellchecking this ...i'm too exhausted to even reread it. I'm sure some of it sounds overly evil, or something maybe ... but I don't care that wassnt the intent so choose to understand the intent, or not I leave that up to each individual. Herble may or may not understand any of this and my need assistance in my absence. Or, Herble darling, you can ring me at work. *love* :wub:

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You are quite a writer. The internet does allow for us to have online conversations that we just wouldn't have face to face at home. I realize that. I have a son your age. But on this forum I don't feel an age. Everyone is just a person. I love your posts. Your being an English major shows.

You sound like a terrific guy. You aren't perfect and you let your real self show. That means your perfections and imperfections. You are one person I would really like to know personally. You have character. It shows through all your posts. Whether I agree with them or not, you are incredibly honest. And your honesty shows overall a good person.

We all want people to notice us. At 53 if you told me that you thought I was good looking, I would be on cloud nine. NO, I wouldn't expect a sexual relationship. I tell those little women in the 80's and 90's when they are dressed to the nines and have spent time on their hair how beautiful they are. And they are. At their ages to take the time to work on their makeup clothes and such. They are beautiful people.

So you notice other guys and your ego is inflated if other guys notice you. That makes you a human being. Duh, I think you already knew that.

But Herbie is who you love. I suspect if it came down to it you would risk your life to safe Herbie in an emergency. NO doubt you both love each other intently. It shows in what you both write here on this forum. May you have a long and blessed relationship.

You are a guy with lots of character. Someday I would love to meet you.

Freddie

 

[ashlar]

Originally posted by Freddie53@Dec 20 2004, 02:25 PM
You are quite a writer. The internet does allow for us to have online conversations that we just wouldn't have face to face at home. I realize that. I have a son your age. But on this forum I don't feel an age. Everyone is just a person. I love your posts. Your being an English major shows.

You sound like a terrific guy. You aren't perfect and you let your real self show. That means your perfections and imperfections. You are one person I would really like to know personally. You have character. It shows through all your posts. Whether I agree with them or not, you are incredibly honest. And your honesty shows overall a good person.

We all want people to notice us. At 53 if you told me that you thought I was good looking, I would be on cloud nine. NO, I wouldn't expect a sexual relationship. I tell those little women in the 80's and 90's when they are dressed to the nines and have spent time on their hair how beautiful they are. And they are. At their ages to take the time to work on their makeup clothes and such. They are beautiful people.

So you notice other guys and your ego is inflated if other guys notice you. That makes you a human being. Duh, I think you already knew that.

But Herbie is who you love. I suspect if it came down to it you would risk your life to safe Herbie in an emergency. NO doubt you both love each other intently. It shows in what you both write here on this forum. May you have a long and blessed relationship.

You are a guy with lots of character. Someday I would love to meet you.

Freddie

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Thank you Freddy for your compliments en-masse. I am overwhelmed, my heart warmed greatly by your kind words. I can only hope that life is as kind to you as you are to others. As far as I can tell, you have a truely beautiful soul.

*hugs*