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Andrea: Doubtless_Mouse
Some interesting comments - will reply soon.

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blar: wvalady1968 you trully are a smart lady. I am glad there are some people in this Mb that know what they are talking about unlike some of the other Mbs i have been to.

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"I don't like to cast doubt on some forum members but I do find it hard to believe some are as big as they claim"

funny you should say this but your right.(not to start argument) go into any sex Mb and ask and all men would say 8-10 inchs lol also alot of women do not know penis sizes unless they measure and they usually believe a guy if he tell them. Here is a funny story i use to visit a board like this a couple years ago it started great nice people then it got foolish as more people (guys telling fake sizes and fake "size queens" that talk rubbish, but i am glad the is site shutdown). well one of the female posters was fed up of all the lies... so she said she was going to do a little project on penis size. After a few months she posted a little story about asking guys if she could measure them...so to get to the point she posted the sizes of all the men she measured and it actually fit whats considered the adverage range 5-6. Majority of the guys were between 5-6(the adverage) only a rare amount were higher and a few lower. Funny thing was alot of people went quiet after that :eek:
just like one lady posted( i could tell she knows what she is talking about) in a thread here that was asking women what guy would they choose its rare to find someone greatly above adv.

"but I have to feel sorry for the guys who are 5".

to that poster why would you feel sorry for them? They are adverage in fact in the normal erection range. I fell sorry for guys that are adverge who think they are small and useless in bed because of the things they read.



But andrea you seem bothered by his size is he really that below adverage?

out of all the female friends i know say they never had a problem with going from "big" to "small" they are more into how you do in bed. to them it Never was a deal breaker.

Is your question about being in a relationship with someone under adv? cause i am getting alittle confused
 
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Andrea: Blar,
I admit to having a "nagging curiosity" as to how a man better endowed than my husband would feel. My husband, on his own bat, arranged an encounter so as to satisfy that curiosity. The encounter was then repeated under a slightly different set of circumstances. I now know what it is like to be penetrated by such a man and am no longer curious.

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The longer I stay here in this forum, the more amazed I am about our collective (tormenting) issues over "size".

I don't think there will EVER be one pat "definitive" answer over which is better...small or large.

We're all individuals with our own preferences and that's good.

What complicates life for us (I think) is our present day culture and the emphasis we put upon appearance.
The visual imagery appeal is supposedly stronger in men than in women but women obviously are aroused too, to some degree as well by "what they see".

Men (in their natural competitiveness) want to have the biggest male equipment possible.

This forum is one whereby "large" seemingly reigns supreme and so the average (smaller) men then feel short-cheated in life. --No wonder.

Thankfully, there are women in the world who, through honesty (or, their genuine kindness and sensitivity), will testify that it's the man himself , his heart, his technique of making love that really matters and NOT his "size".

But then, along comes another "dose" of the world again around us (media, hype, spam about PE, etc) and we ALL wind up once more believing a large penis is absolutely imperative to ever be happy.

Such a vicious cycle we're all apart of here!

And , we call this forum F U N ??

(Yes....we do! ;) )

What sheer irony and yet....I'm right here, too with the rest of us....too riveted to leave!

Self esteem issues?

More often than not---the LPSG is definitely the WRONG place to be at times. But,-- it's not any one member's fault necessarily, either. It's just the way things are.

--Probably always will be.

Comes right back to the individual and "what" he or she chooses to believe in and, to live by.

btw ladies, all men like to have a compliment now and then about their sexual prowess.

Please TRY to make it sound like it's "sincere" ;)
 
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blar: thank you benderten2001 you said what i was trying to say. I agree with all the spam and popups i get about pills to make your penis larger makes me not blame men sometimes for putting so much thought into there size the media stuffs it in our face. sadly for alot of men it causes them to be insecure of themselves and most likely causes them to be bad in bed because they worry about their size. Infact I was surprized to hear from one of my firends, that so many of the guys she slept asked/told her that they think their penis is small when they were infact adv.

All that penis growth pills and crap are fake the only thing that they grow is the bank account of the guy who sells it. Since they never go away there must be thusands of people fooled into buying them....talk about playing with peoples insecurties.

Thankfully, there are women in the world who, through honesty (or, their genuine kindness and sensitivity), will testify that it's the man himself , his heart, his technique of making love that really matters and NOT his "size".

yea as i said before they are the type that actually know what they are talking about. There is nothing wrong with being turned on or fond of look at "big ones" or liking them. But to me there is something wrong with putting the "size queen" label on yourself just because you like to look at them...i call these type of women fake size queens because they usually don't have a clue what they are talking about, they just tell fake "horror stories" on MBs and demand perfection when they are not perfection.
 

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blar, I appreciate your compliment.

One of the life's great lessons for me has been (and still is) to allow people to be the individuals they already are. --And, THAT can be hard to do sometimes!

I don't think there's anything wrong with a fascination over different "sizes" as such (for men or women). I hate "labels" being applied to men or women. That only adds to the situation undue judgment and needless ridicule.

I think the line has to be drawn however, when obsession over "size" begins to inflict emotional pain (and eventually harm) to a person's well-being pyschologically or within a relationship. "Size preferences" unleashes some really difficult issues then! "Wrong-thinking" by that point....is very hard to correct.

This is the main reason I like to advocate putting other human qualities first and foremost----way before genital size can overtake good judgment and wise choices.
 
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Andrea: [quote author=Doubtless_Mouse link=board=women;num=1068251345;start=20#39 date=01/29/04 at 05:50:51]Andrea - As a man I cannot speak from experience on this, but all I could think of when I re-read your thread was, what has it been like for you?  If memory serves me correctly (luckily I haven't lost that in my old age), with the help of your husband, you have stepped up and been initiated into the knowning what sex is like with a well endowed man and then went back to the husband who is less than average.  You stated in your other thread about inviting a third into the bed that sex with hubby was different as it was more emotional and involved love, but what about the physical side?  I know it seems like when ever you post a topic it gets turned on you, but might be helpful if you added your experiences to the mix as well as asking for others.  I am by no means huge, I am a little above average (glad for that), and I imagine that I have been both the smaller lover and the larger lover for some of the women I was with before I met my wife.  In my experiences (maybe I was lied to for my ego?), each episode of sex was an separate act and each time it was pleasuarble for both parties.  I never once felt like it was being added to my lovers anthology of partners/experiences.  I never once have seen the "oh, that was nice but not quite what I was used to or looking for" look.  Even now after almost 11 years of marriage, each time my wife and I make love it is like it is the first time.  We enjoy each one and don't compare.  Maybe I am lucky in this but it is how we are.[/quote]

Doubtless -
I especially like your comment describing each episode of sex as being a separate act. Each episode can be enjoyed for itself without needing to compare it to any other. Sex with a larger penis is certainly different to that with a small penis. For the first time I could feel the penis as it was removed - and sort of pulled my body out with it (though this is difficult to explain). I was also conscious of the potential pain it could cause - something all the other women here will know too well. It has been suggested women don't feel anything much deeper than the first few inches but I could certainly feel a sensation very deep inside me - a sensation also new to me. Also, because my husband was watching all this and the whole thing could be described as a "bad" thing for lady to do (which incidentally some women here are very quick to remind me of) the "taboo" nature of it enhanced my sexual arousal. At least I think this is what happened. Similar sort of thing to anal sex the first few times before it becomes commonplace. Sex with a larger penis is most definitely different - and a larger penis is more visually arousing. Better? Not sure.

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Evolon: being of the "slightly above average" group here, i can agree with most that is being said... with all the comercials about levitra, cialis, and lets not forget viagra... not to mention all the threads here about PE... its really easy for a man to feel less manly due to the size of his endowment... my wife has had larger men, much larger men (even two at one time), and still proclaims that i am her best ever... she has also had men smaller than me, much smaller than average... i always thought that being my size was to an advantage... not "too big" but not "too small"... except for your size-queens, id be pretty much accepted by most women...

the description of the feeling of the larger man pulling out is quite interesting though... i think im gonna go home and ask my wife to try to describe how it feels when we make love... very interesting...
 
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ORCABOMBER: I tell you what I find interesting. Okay, I'm 8.5 X Goodness knows inches and when I first came here I was one of the people who felt insecure by my size! I mean, I'm not a double-digit monster am I?

But what I think was important, is that I learnt to except myself for who I am, it's character building, I'm very happy with what I have.

But I find it probably weird, when you think that even someone my size at one time "belived the hype" and was getting worried! :D
 
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Doubtless_Mouse: Andrea - Thanks for the reply, will need to reread a few times to process (it is how i process information).

Anyway wanted to add a bit of levity to this discussion, I saw an ad the other day for a penis enlargement cream. Now I am not unhappy with my size (but like most men I sometimes would like to be a little bigger), so anyway, so here I am, surfing the web and this ad pops up. A cream, a lotion, something that you rub on and it will make your dick bigger. Hmm, I say, I wonder if this could be true, then I thought to myself, "Myself, if this cream (which would be applied by hand), makes your dick bigger, why wouldn't it make your hands bigger as well?"

Well, I thought that could be embarassing. Imagine going to work after a long weekend, and your hands are larger than normal. I am a person who usually does things to the extreme, so if I used this cream, I would use a lot. If it made my hand bigger (which it would right), how would I explain to my friends and co-workers about the change. Then of course there is the fear that other men have learned (and maybe a few women) that there is a cream that would make your hands and dick bigger. Imagine my red faced look when people started giving me the, "I know what you did look."

Needless to say, I will stick (hehehehe) to the size I have...unless of course a cream comes out (hehehehe) that guarrantees your hands won't grow with it.
 
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alysen6: Hey, I guess I'll be THAT girl that stands up and admits it: I've broken up with a guy primarily because of his size.

My first boyfriend (this was in high school) was a nice, cute guy, and we hit it off pretty well. He was a popular football player and all. The first time we had sex I noticed that he was just really small. I didn't measure, but I would put him at under 5 inches, maybe 4 1/2. I pretty much knew that he wasn't going to appeal to me sexually after that.

We broke up on good terms, and I didn't say exactly why I lost interest, but I think he knew. I felt bad for a while, since it seems a pretty unfair reason, but since then I have a better idea of what I prefer in guys that I date, and I usually am able to consider everything before I make my mind up.

That's me...of course i don't speak for most women. Peace!

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Doubtless_Mouse: Aly - I don't understand why you make it sound like such a bad thing to break up with somebody because of their size. The size is nothing more than another physical charateristic of a person. I have broken up with women because of physical charateristics I think we all have. I prefer asian women, especially petite women, does that make me a bad person? No it is my preference. If you prefer men who are a little bigger than that is your right. If I met a girl who was perfect for me in every way (well I did and married her) but if when I was looking, I did meet a girl who was perfect in every way, but some physical charateristic turned me off, or I didn't find her sexy and alluring because of some physical trait, then Why is it wrong to break up? I am looking for my happiness, I am looking for the person who compliments me, who makes me go WOW. If the person you are with isn't that person then I say you should break up, for what ever reason it is that they don't make you go Wow.

I am trying to clarify something, I know I say size doesn't matter, but in a way it does, it matters to some people. If they are not happy becasue it is too small or even too big, then their happiness should be first and foremost on their minds. We are talking about a life partner. Someone who we are going to spend our lives with, we need to find the right one. The reason we all have different preferences is to make sure we find the one that is our match. I believe there is more than one, but not all people can be with all people.

Sorry if I sound contradictory in my statements, might have to rethink and rewrite and post again latter.
 
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eyemready: A woman told me once that she was a "size queen" not because of the physical sex with large penis but because she has found that hung guys are more confident and self-assured as a rule. She did tell me that she was once fooled, however, when she went out with a real shy and withdrawn guy and he hauled out a baseball bat. As a rule, however, she has found that "shorties" have too much inferiority baggage.
 
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alysen6: Doubt-

Thanks for the point. I didn't mean to sound like it's a bad thing, I was more remarking on how few girls on the thread seem to feel the same way.

You have to admit, though, there is a social sigma against women who look at size before most other characteristics. Maybe I was expressing a reflex reaction before I voiced my opinion. Ah well!

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Andrea: I would certainly agree women are attacked for admitting a preferred penis size. We run the risk of being branded as shallow or as sluts.
I have been accused of various things just for being curious and openly admitting it.
I just like to think I have been open with my own feelings and views and have been strong and determined enough to see things through.

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Doubtless_Mouse: Aly & Andrea - you are right. Our society is still very one sided, no doubt. If a man were to say he likes women with big breasts, we might think him a little shallow but it wouldn't really affect how we interact with him, yet on the other hand if a women were to say she likes a large penis, then low and behold people who know this will more than likely veiw her a little differently. It seems expected that a man like certain characteristics in women and we are allowed to be vocal, we all want the barbie doll (not really but marketing and what not), yet women who want the ken doll are frowed upon. It is the world we live in though.
 
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blar: actually i can comment on that and say its the other way around. Out of the Mbs that i have read Women say oh i want a big dick etc etc...no one really says out of my experience that she is shallow but when a guy say he wants the perfect vagina that ones that have no labia sticking out. Or a women with a tight body not a fat women then he gets jumped on by women and it even more funny when its the same women who say they want a big dick are the one jumping on him and calling him a dog. Example that i am not good enough thread you see women saying if he does not like your body kick him out the door. Then you see they are the same ones saying a guy with a certain size is useless and blah blah blah.

But alysen6 lol you got to be care about that i know someone through the internet that did that and it came back and hit her. Some guy did something to her that really hurt her and after that she regrets what she did. Funny thing is she wants to meet the guy she dumped over that and say sorry to him.

But another question is would you feel the same or shall i say respect it if your bf/husband said he feels women who are better looking and that have a better body are greater in bed and is begging you to sleep with them?
 
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blar: opps so sorry lol its late i don't know how i made so much mistakes on my post lol..... too bad there is no edit button. :'(

but eyemready thats because most guys have never seen another guy's erection besides in porn... thus they think of themselves as small and afriad that a women will laugh at them.
 
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Andrea: [quote author=Doubtless_Mouse link=board=women;num=1068251345;start=40#51 date=02/06/04 at 03:59:57]Aly - I don't understand why you make it sound like such a bad thing to break up with somebody because of their size.  The size is nothing more than another physical charateristic of a person.  I have broken up with women because of physical charateristics I think we all have.  I prefer asian women, especially petite women, does that make me a bad person?  No it is my preference.  If you prefer men who are a little bigger than that is your right.  If I met a girl who was perfect for me in every way (well I did and married her) but if when I was looking, I did meet a girl who was perfect in every way, but some physical charateristic turned me off, or I didn't find her sexy and alluring because of some physical trait, then Why is it wrong to break up?  I am looking for my happiness, I am looking for the person who compliments me, who makes me go WOW.  If the person you are with isn't that person then I say you should break up, for what ever reason it is that they don't make you go Wow.

I am trying to clarify something, I know I say size doesn't matter, but in a way it does, it matters to some people.  If they are not happy becasue it is too small or even too big, then their happiness should be first and foremost on their minds.  We are talking about a life partner.  Someone who we are going to spend our lives with, we need to find the right one.  The reason we all have different preferences is to make sure we find the one that is our match.  I believe there is more than one, but not all people can be with all people.

Sorry if I sound contradictory in my statements, might have to rethink and rewrite and post again latter.[/quote]

Rather a refreshing statement. If a woman really cannot cope with the small penis of a partner then she must be honest with herself for the sake of the partnership - that is her partner and herself. She must not be pressurised by others in believing such a view is shallow and unimportant. For many it is unimportant - and not an issue. But if it is important for the woman then it is issue - and possibly an important one. In some relationships sex itself is of little consequence. It all depends on the individual and the partnership. Others should not be quick to condemn it.

Andrea xxx