Smoking Reduces Penis Size

[deleted356736]

OK CBRMALE you believe your way an i going to believe mine, as mine has been proved before my eyes as to what I'm talking about. to make it easier for you here is my take an on this i am 100% correct. my sister n laws father smoked 18 cigars a day. he smoked all his life as most did in his day an still do yet today. when he died he was old but in good health, he just past a way in his sleep. now on the other side to this. my hubby's grandma never did any of these so called nasty habits of drinking , smoking. or the like she was a some what health nut if you will. from way back for some reason, [she is the only one in family this way] when she died she had cancer. heart problems, and very high blood pressure . she went to her Dr. regular an also seen many specialist in her latter yrs. do to her health problems. at the end she also had Alzheimer's in late stages. now here is the clincher to all this ,you don't have to believe it but i do as i seen an know these people. my sister n laws father who supposedly had the nasty dirty habits. he died at 88 an at times when we would all go on walks with him visiting an such. we had to make quite a stride to keep up with him at times... now while he lived a life to be 88 yrs. old the grandmother who was so health consider an what not died at 66. these was two completely different people from a totally different family, none were related in any way. the older one lived a full life an didn't go to the Dr. hardly any only for a flu shot or what ever. but only in latter yrs. while not counting the cancer an such, she done everything right an died a early death, when you consider their age. so like i said early on every one is different an things that bother some never bothers others.. these are only two people i can quote more if needed [as I'm sure you can as well to prove your point as to what you think.] not related family wise, have past away while UN healthy while others with so called nasty habit's. have an still are out living a normal life. my hubby's grandfather also smoked an drank quite a lot all his life as well. he cut timber all his life an owned a saw mill. of which usually had many chemicals for treating wood around an such, he past away at 79 yrs of age with no health problems also. the death certificate says died of natural causes, so fig. why the nasty habits people out lived the others when these people never knew each other. i also know some smokers alive today that do not have any health problems an have been smoking quite a while my gramdpa is one of them. he smokes 4 paks aday an he is 77 yrs old. while at the same time i also know a few who do have health issues. but its un related to smoking, it is other thing an out of respect for them i wont say here. so like i said before what hurts one doesnt hurt the other.

I worked for a public hospital for two years and I saw some dreadful things... The other thing I say is that the people I saw who were dying and on their last were costing us, the non-smokers, a fortune to keep alive or try to cure. Although I was in a senior position in that hospital, and I learned that when it was 'self inflicted', perhaps the treatment was not as fastidious as it could have been.

Nonetheless, smoking costs society, yours and mine, a fortune beyond any taxes collected. You may think it's okay to pay inflated health insurance premiums to compensate, but I do not enjoy paying inflated taxes for such things. And remember this, no matter what taxes are paid on cigarettes, this does not come close to the health care costs incurred.

 

[deleted356736]

10% of smokers have double leg amputations? Yeah right. CBR, you do tend to fling the stats around will-nilly. LOL

My mistake, it should have been 1% leg and foot amputations from smoking. 1% is big, however, a couple of thousand a year in Australia. At my regional base hospital it was about 5 or 10 or so a month. This hospital had a rehab centre and I used to see them in winter sitting in the sun on their wheelchairs, blankets over their stumps, smoking away. Often they were only in their forties.

 

[hud01]

I don't believe these things. I quit 20 years ago, but when I was smoking I was also fucking everyday and most days 3 or 4 times a night.

The only thing that made my cock smaller was gaining weight.

 

[B_Morning_Glory]

INonetheless, smoking costs society, yours and mine, a fortune beyond any taxes collected. You may think it's okay to pay inflated health insurance premiums to compensate, but I do not enjoy paying inflated taxes for such things. And remember this, no matter what taxes are paid on cigarettes, this does not come close to the health care costs incurred.

i myself don't like paying the high cost of anything now days.. BUT smoking has not caused this to happen an didn't raise the prices of everything you see. nor is it the sole cost of health care to day. that said heres my final reply to you on this as i see it starting to be a debate I'm not going to be swade your way. an I'm not trying to get you to join mine i just given my thoughts on the article. you don't have to take if as 100% Gospel you see.

its funny to me you see, according to you an being in hospital care an all... how every time i have ever been at a hospital or places of medical services offered to the public... [ i most always see nurse/Dr. other medical staff out side smoking...... ] now it would seem to me that if it is sooo terrible as your trying to make it out to be. people in this type of work would not be running around trying to run my or anyone else's business about how them smoking, an how much it is bad for them,, then the next breath light up a cig, an smoke as if its OK for them to smoke but not us as it makes health care cost way to much LOL. remember its suppose to be a very nasty habit. ill take my chances with being around people who smoke thank you. as the out come is way better than what your trying to tell everyone here about it. it isn't that way at all. i know to many thats not bothered by it. also high cost of health care isn't so high just because we have lots of smokers in this country. thats like saying someone who has sugar because they had sex to much.. it has everything to do with Medicare ripping off the health care industry. the HMOs etc. etc. i have worked in the billing dept.a while an i see how these big insurence co. work an how they pay. some are great at paying everything,, but the majority suck when its paying time. an we the tax payer have to pick up the tab, why? because of these big insurence co. an the law that lets them get out of payin. when we have been paying into them for yrs, threw loop holes in their way of paying for services.. [ could make a whole other thread from this subject alone here ] but high cost ISN'T because of someone smoking. so telling everyone here that high cost of medical services is the smokers fault is just plain false. NOW i haven't been trying to convince you to believe only my way in any of my post or reply to you. an don't think a person should do this as one is in titled to his/her opinion on things. but on the other side to this,, YOU will never convince me that the things you have been saying are the only way to be a healthy person is to live like a health nut. WRONG ] no thank you i want to enjoy life an have done so, an always will. an i enjoy it very much with a guy who is a chain smoker. an in perfect health i mite add here as well.. an also with a big dick that gets rock hard solid every time. so like i posted else where on this. the article just isn't true at all. now lets give others a chance to chime in on this As well,, while we seat back watch learn an Read what they mite have to say..

 

[Dooky]

exactly how i feel, it is called two faced, but they sugar coat it an call it something else instead. they have a mad program [ mother against drunk drivers] an I'm all for that 100% next they will have a pass program [people against all smokers] that i will never support in any way. it would be the same as Hitler hating the people because they were Jews. hating someone because they smoke isn't any different, an that is happening in some ways i think.

Seriously?!? Apparently! being a jew kills yourself, kills your loved ones, can get your legs cut off, costs 20 bucks a week (estimate sorry if im off i know its expensive), and is prohibited in indoor facilities! what world have i been living in? i thought judaism was a religious practice boy was i wrong!

How old are you? seriously, i would expect a comment like that from a 16 year old tops.

 

[B_Morning_Glory]

Seriously?!? Apparently! being a jew kills yourself, kills your loved ones, can get your legs cut off, costs 20 bucks a week (estimate sorry if im off i know its expensive), and is prohibited in indoor facilities! what world have i been living in? i thought judaism was a religious practice boy was i wrong!

How old are you? seriously, i would expect a comment like that from a 16 year old tops.

you mist my point.. apparently being as your so eager to find fault rather than see others points of view. you appear to want to be an ass on this subject. to wards me. i was not saying anything about Jews. an or any other religion. but you are right your living in a different world, where all you have to do is spout BS about some one who has a different opinion on something than you do. be it my post or a smokers right to do so. you don't like it then live in a glass house. how ever in doing as you have you fail to even offer an opinion on the subject at hand. you rather just refer to a certain sentence in my post that you don't like. so i think we know who the childish 16 yr. old is here. share your opinion like others have on the subject of smoking. not on how a poster mite have
worded something you dint like in the way it was worded. you wasn't ask that in the beginning of this thread by the op. so put up or shut up as your not offering anything pertaining to this thread by doing so. no offense meant an none was taken. just pointing out a few facts for you.

 

[deleted356736]

i BUT smoking has not caused this to happen an didn't raise the prices of everything you see. nor is it the sole cost of health care to day.

I didn't say it was, so please do not write lies about what I originally wrote.

but high cost ISN'T because of someone smoking. so telling everyone here that high cost of medical services is the smokers fault is just plain false.

In Australia we have a government-run universal healthcare system, like all OECD countries bar one, and smoking is the largest contributor to preventable medical conditions to our system. Therefore, smoking is a major contributor to the high cost of healthcare in Australia. The second largest is obesity, followed by excessive alcohol consumption. Take a smoker who is overweight, and expensive medical treatment is guaranteed to follow.

 

[lovebignv]

cbrmale

In Australia we have a government-run universal healthcare system, like all OECD countries bar one, and smoking is the largest contributor to preventable medical conditions to our system. Therefore, smoking is a major contributor to the high cost of healthcare in Australia. The second largest is obesity, followed by excessive alcohol consumption. Take a smoker who is overweight, and expensive medical treatment is guaranteed to follow.

So what is your point? Are you going to regulate what people eat and drink? I like how people who say they care so much about a problem are the first ones to turn to neo-fascist behavior! You care about people so much that you (and some others) are the only one who knows what is right for them? This is odd given what you said in another post of yours: "I learned that when it was 'self inflicted', perhaps the treatment was not as fastidious as it could have been." So you are saying as medical professionals and caregivers you gave less treatment to some and more to others? Better care for some but the others were just shit out of luck? Do you see a conflict there at all? You care but if you think someone did it to themselves then you don't care but then you will pass laws to regulate people's behavior because you care? That is some mind-boggling logic! On top of that, you say you care about these people and want to prevent this so-called problem but when it becomes too expensive you suddenly don't care anymore?

It worries me that there are people who feel like you do and will sit in judgement of who gets care and who doesn't. I think you care more about being right rather than in doing what is right. Also, maybe you should find out why those costs are so high in your country. I imagine the bulk of your cost probably comes from administrative and beuracratic costs or vendors inflating prices on the products they supply to your government run healthcare system. And don't feel bad, we have the same problem here in the States but they are called insurance companies.

 

[B_Artful Dodger]

This whole thread is a bit of an irrelevance really as the subjects of the test are quite likely to have died from some other complication relating to smoking before any shrinkage is noticed. I would imagine if it happens at all, it would happen very slowly and gradually...

 

[Big Irish]

One husband in the US does not provide convincing evidence of the safety of smoking... Smoking causes heart disease, lung disease, impotence, double leg amputations due to gangerene (one of my favourites) etc etc. The gradual failure of the vascular system over time is not sexy at all.

One thing I find staggering are the number of people who have not studied statistics. Clearly not every smoker loses both legs, but about 10% do. Clearly not every smoker suffers impotence, but about 40% do. Clearly not every smoker suffers shrinkage of the penis, but about 60% do. This is what statistics are about, and these percentages should be enough to prevent men from starting this filthy habit, or giving it up immediately. Indeed, I told my female masseuse about the double amputations I saw when I worked in healthcare, she told her husband, and he stopped smoking that very day and never smoked again.

these sound like liberal statistics to me if ten% of smokers had double leg amputations then we would see them everywhere. Millions of peolpe smoke that means that there would be hundreds of thousands of these double leg amputations. However this is the first time I have heard of this ailment, that somehow has never made it into the surgeon generals warnings. I would hope that you could provide some type of reference for this information.

 

[Big Irish]

I didn't say it was, so please do not write lies about what I originally wrote.



In Australia we have a government-run universal healthcare system, like all OECD countries bar one, and smoking is the largest contributor to preventable medical conditions to our system. Therefore, smoking is a major contributor to the high cost of healthcare in Australia. The second largest is obesity, followed by excessive alcohol consumption. Take a smoker who is overweight, and expensive medical treatment is guaranteed to follow.

Ahhh now we see the problem socialized healthcare. Take all choice away and heap the bills on the tax-payer.

 

[Big Irish]

cbrmale is wise. Considering all of the other problems smoking and using tobacco causes (unless you're living in the early 20th Century or earlier and need to worm a horse) you smokers, sweet as many of you are, can stay far away from me.

I've quit socializing with many old friends because the continue to smoke. I understand how hard it is to quit, but I have little sympathy for them. Fortunately, in Barçelona and Buenos Aires it's so expensive to buy cigarettes (and muscles are currently in fashion) that smokinig doesn't appear as popular as it did 10 or so years back.

Smokers have the worst tasting cum.

You have no sympathy for peolpe with a heroin-level addiction? Is it lonely up on that pedestal?

 

[Big Irish]

I am suspicious of these studies. Rarely do I see one published for the general public with all the info on how they determine these things. What is the sampling size of the group studied? How long was the study done for? What was the age of the participants studied? What is their health history? To me it is a convenient study to try and scare people into quitting smoking by going for the penis so to speak.

I have also lived long enough to see many things go from good to bad to good again. Eggs, blue food coloring, M&M's, etc. You name it there is probably a study showing it as good or bad. If these people really believe their study shows something then put ALL the information out on the table for the public to see. Not just in medical journals for other researchers.

Finally, what the fuck is wrong with this country? Why are there so many people who want to tell you how to live, what to eat, etc.? I know smoking is bad for you, no argument there but what is this incessant need to control others? Also how come nobody gets upset about alcohol and the deaths it causes, or cholesterol, or smoking weed? Listen to me, it doesn't matter whether you are smoking weed or tobacco. If you think that weed growers don't use all sorts of stuff to enhance their product or concentrate THC levels then you are living in a dream. Tobacco is really modified I know but taking smoke into your lungs, regardless of where it comes from, is bad for you.

Here is something we all need to remember: Life is supposed to kill you. You are going to die one way or another. Why should we let a bunch of anal retentive assholes tell us how to live our lives? We have enough laws to cover all the stuff we shouldn't do like murder, stealing, identity theft and all that. Do we really need more laws that will subject us to one groups' personal ideals, feelings, or religious beliefs? Plus, for every person who bitches about smoking, I want you to give back all the tax money you have used from cigarette taxes. If you believe so strongly that smoking is bad then don't be a fucking hypocrite and make money off the backs of people that are dying.

The reason noone is upset about alcohol, cholesterol, and weed is that their tv has not told them to be angry. Most people are sheep, just killing time till the big dirt nap. This is also how we are persecuting people partaking of a LEGAL past time. TV told us to be upset. I quit smoking years ago, but will defend someones right to do it, till the last degree. State mandated health(not healthcare) is coming, and it will be just one more form of gov't control.

 

[Captain Elephant]

OK, reading too fast there. At first I thought it said "Stroking reduces penis size" and I thought to myself only if you're Pinnochio and you're using sandpaper gloves.

 

[B_Morning_Glory]

This is totally wrong, and there isn't a smoker alive who hasn't or isn't suffering health problems related to their addiction. The problems may be a greater propensity to catch colds and the flu, and a longer time to recover from such illnesses, but they will have these health problems at a minimum.

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Realy!Ive been a smoker and drinker since I was 16.Guess what my dick has not shrunk.And it's been three years since I had a cold or the flu.

Last it's not an addiction for me.When the money is not there I don't buy smokes or beer.It's been the same with all the males in my family.My mother is the health nut in our family and she is the one with the problems,heart stint,high blood pressure you name it!

So guess what you can do with your stats and studies!

oh but ED don't you know that your mothers problems are all caused by your smoking an drinking tho? LOL. don't you get the biggest laugh out of that when you hear it? i do sometimes, especially when we are on camping trips with friends an they are preaching [ as hubby calls it ]sometimes about how he shouldn't smoke so much, and he is the one ahead of all of us[ carrying most of the gear by the way, ] waiting on them while they are trying to get their breath to keep up with him. i laugh inside when this is going on.

 

[B_Morning_Glory]

I didn't say it was, so please do not write lies about what I originally wrote.


i did not write lies as to what you posted... an i don't appreciate being accused as such. i merly stated a point as to how what you did say was taken in your wording to me. that being said since you are accusing me of lieing here. I and many others don't appreciate you lieing about us as well as the ones we love an know also as friends. being the reason health care cost are so high. i think you need to do a little more research on a lot of other things as well before you take it upon yourself as to point fingers at just one certain type of people as to the reason for the cost. an i most defiantly can tell you that it is NOT smokers.

 

[B_Morning_Glory]

OK, reading too fast there. At first I thought it said "Stroking reduces penis size" and I thought to myself only if you're Pinnochio and you're using sandpaper gloves.

well if stroking reduces penis size. their must be an awfully lot of guys with really small penises in the world do to stroking it :biggrin1: more than we know of then huh? :wink: