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Yes, I know it's a nasty habit, yes, I know it's bad for me, yes, I know it's expensive, yes, I know people don't like it, but somehow, it seems to fit my mood. I've fucked up my life, and all I have is ashes, so the taste of the cigarettes seems to fit.

Wow. This is me in a nutshell too - minus the fucked up my life, ashes part. I love smoking from time to time. I don't give a shit that it's bad for me. I hate when people come up to me "OMG, do you know how bad cigarettes are for you?" Jesus Christ, of course I do. STFU and let me enjoy my cigs. The occasional drag of tobacco for me is very pleasurable. I just can't do it too often because in NY it's simply too expensive (highest taxes in the nation), and I only enjoy smoking in moderation.
 
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I know a lot of ex-smokers who feel the same way about smell of cigarette smoke, oddly I still find it pleasant when I'm around smokers. (I just don't like the stale smell of old lingering smoke) But fresh smoke still smells pretty delicious to me.
So do I! I'm always tempted to linger and get a nostril-full. :p

I still do like a bit of social smoking from time to time tho - always managed to keep it to a couple a day or less, so... not bothered. :)
 
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That said, I can befriend a smoker, if you keep it outdoors. But you'll hear me bitch about it 24/7.
That would be funny. ;)
I do keep it outdoors - and infrequent. :)

@Innymouse - I guess, if times are tough, a nice cig of an evening is something to look forward to. I'd try and reduce it tho, to maybe a couple per day - for financial as well as health reasons. Also - dyou know anyone who can pop round and have a cig or a drink with ya, while you're chilling - just for company and stuff?
 

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That would be funny. ;)
I do keep it outdoors - and infrequent. :)

@Innymouse - I guess, if times are tough, a nice cig of an evening is something to look forward to. I'd try and reduce it tho, to maybe a couple per day - for financial as well as health reasons. Also - dyou know anyone who can pop round and have a cig or drink with ya, while you're chilling - just for company and stuff?

We can be friends, then:biggrin1:

It causes bad breath, too!
 

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I quit smoking on April 14, 2011 by using the electronic cigarette, which is water vapor. It makes you believe you are still smoking. I have saved a ton of money. I can't stand the smell of cigs now, it turns my stomach. Tried a lot of different methods over the years to stop smoking and none worked till I found the e-cig. I am very thankful to the chinese guy who invented the e-cig!

Congratulations! You succeeded in quitting. From what I've read, usually it takes a few tries before achieving success. I avoided the problem by never starting.

When I was a kid, smoking was considered normal and not-smoking was considered abnormal. The mother of a friend of mine actually apologized for not smoking; she said that she had tried to learn to smoke, but it always gave her a headache. When I was in my early 20s, people continually asked me why I didn't smoke and expected an explanation as if I owed them one. I was also told that I should start smoking so that the smoke from other people wouldn't bother me. Asking people not to smoke, even on one's own car or home, was considered rude. We've come a long way.
 

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Lately, I've been killing almost a pack a day.


Enjoy it as you wish, am sure its just a part of where your at, at this time

Personally feel the Authorities are going well overboard in taking smokers rights away, talking NZ...despite Health reasons etc .. more like Govt $ saving reasons.
NON smoker all my life, but would/have never denied people there rights with such
(is the thought that Govts care for your Health more than the costs per smokers health care, i doubt that very much ..)
 
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We can be friends, then:biggrin1:
:tongue:

Congratulations! You succeeded in quitting. From what I've read, usually it takes a few tries before achieving success. I avoided the problem by never starting.
I found it best to cut down a lot first - makes the shock easier to deal with when you cut the cord finally (and helps you eliminate the routine/habit element more easily). :)
 

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:tongue:


I found it best to cut down a lot first - makes the shock easier to deal with when you cut the cord finally (and helps you eliminate the routine/habit element more easily). :)

It appears that one technique is not best for everyone, i.e., what works best for one person doesn't necessarily work best for someone else. Perhaps people have to try different techniques until they find what works for them.

Perhaps one problem is that parents too often teach their kids to conform, sometimes by saying, "What would people think if you did such and so?" Kids already have a built-in impulse to conform to peer pressure, which makes it difficult for them to resist pressure to smoke, and it doesn't help for parents to strengthen the desire of their kids to conform. Rather, kids from an early age should be thought to think for themselves so they can better decide what is reasonable and what it not reasonable. That would make them better able to resist the peer pressure to smoke.
 
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Perhaps one problem is that parents too often teach their kids to conform, sometimes by saying, "What would people think if you did such and so?" Kids already have a built-in impulse to conform to peer pressure, which makes it difficult for them to resist pressure to smoke, and it doesn't help for parents to strengthen the desire of their kids to conform. Rather, kids from an early age should be thought to think for themselves so they can better decide what is reasonable and what it not reasonable.
Yup, interesting.
 

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Meh. Why is it that people who don't smoke seem to feel free to be shitty as all get out to smokers?

Honestly, 90% of the smokers I know, myself included, have strict boundaries about smoking. We don't light up without permission, or make sure that we're in a safe place to smoke, IE where it's accepted, and there's fresh air/ventillation. Furthermore, I know a LOT of smokers who will not smoke indoors or in their house or car. We understand the damage it does, and how it works. A lot of people don't want the smell lingering in their homes, or their cars.
 

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Meh. Why is it that people who don't smoke seem to feel free to be shitty as all get out to smokers?

Honestly, 90% of the smokers I know, myself included, have strict boundaries about smoking. We don't light up without permission, or make sure that we're in a safe place to smoke, IE where it's accepted, and there's fresh air/ventillation. Furthermore, I know a LOT of smokers who will not smoke indoors or in their house or car. We understand the damage it does, and how it works. A lot of people don't want the smell lingering in their homes, or their cars.

That is a great change from the situation before the middle 1970s. Before that time, if smokers would refrain from smoking where the smoke bothered others, they acted like martyrs and would continually remind others of the supreme sacrifice they were making.

I remember what happened on an airplane when they still permitted smoking in the back seats. I was seated near the front. Across the isle from me, a woman lit up. I instantly pressed the call button for the cabin attendant. When she came, I pointed, as conspicuously as possible, to the woman who was smoking in the no smoking area, and said loudly, "That woman is smoking!!!!" The cabin attendant seated her in the smoking area. It took that kind of constant vigilance to change attitudes to make it possible to avoid breathing poisoned air. Smokers would constantly "forget" that they were in no smoking areas.
 

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After reading all this I want a Marlboro Smooth or a Marlboro menthol light.

Me, too. Well, a DuMaurier actually. And if I could listen to a lecture about how bad smoking is for me, it would make the cigarette taste even sweeter....:biggrin1:.
 

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Because they have the holier than thou mentality

No.

In many cases, it's because we were around before smoking became socially unacceptable and we had to spend considerable time and effort trying to figure out how to avoid smoke and still live normal lives. There were many places where we couldn't go without breathing heavy dense smoke that gave us headaches, burned our eyes, and burned our noses. Sometimes we couldn't avoid it at work. Some of us couldn't eat in restaurants. Flying was a nightmare that left us feeling sick because of the heavy smoke. Smokers could smoke just about any place they wanted to smoke and those of us who asked them not to, even in our own cars and homes, were considered rude.

Probably you will find that many of us who were around at that time have an extremely negative attitude towards smoking. Some of us fear that if we relaxed the pressure, history would repeat itself, as it often does, and smoking would again become popular.

Smoking was dying out before World War I, until General Pershing made it unpatriotic to object to smoking. It could happen again unless we are vigilant.
 

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Honestly, 90% of the smokers I know, myself included, have strict boundaries about smoking. We don't light up without permission,

can i suggest, its only been from around your age / generation aninn, that this now occurs
geuss the laws that have been implemented recently has ensured such happens
Prior to that its a fact that we all lived with the smokers smoke, without a doubt
Recall travelling to my Paper Mill job in the early 70s by bus
Despite a shower before, hopping in that bus, and the 10 minute ride to work from the camp,
. Fn hair was saturated with smoke smells, was annoying
(also think 60s/70s Long hair craze ha, we all had it )..
over 60% of the 20 odd shift workers were smokers,i know i counted em, daily, with hate..?
soooooo
No worries tho, survived ha


agree with parts of what you say FRE
 
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After reading all this I want a Marlboro Smooth or a Marlboro menthol light.
Embassy #1, plz.

I did used to smoke Berkeley Menthol, tho - after convincing myself they somehow tasted healthier, hehehe (and are longer). :wink: