Okay, I don't want this to be another post saying, "Oh I have a friend that is straight but I think he might be interested in having a gay experience." However, there are some things that I just need a second opinion on so I'm turning to you guys for suggestions.
So here is the story. My friend and I are really close. Like brotherly close. We've been this way for over 5 years. When we first started hanging out in college, he'd come over to my apartment and we'd hang out and talk about some deep topics.
Well, one night he came over and started saying "Dude, there is porn on Youtube." I, of course said, no there isn't. After a while we found some videos of naked girls on Youtube. No big deal. After we watch them, he says starts just Googling up porn. We start watching porn together right there. He mostly draws attention to male actor's penis while we watch these videos. He then starts talking about his length and size and how much he ejaculates. Nothing happened, but this continued for about 3 years. He'd come over, and we'd watch porn. He told me one time "Yeah not having a girlfriend can make someone really horny" while we were watching some pretty hardcore stuff. Again nothing happened. I was a VERY shy person, so looking back on it I really wish I would have taken some action.
During these 3 years or so, we'd also "bag tag" each other (when someone taps on the front of your pants). When we did it though, we'd each hold our hand there for a few seconds and really rub it in. One time I did it to him, and he was definately semi-hard. He swivled around in the chair he was in and went "ahhh" but never threw my hand away or anything. When we'd stay in a hotel together, the first thing we'd do at night is watch porn. One particular time he kept saying how horny he was and that he needed to take a cold shower. Again, nothing happend (yes I think I may have blown many chances).
So fast-forward to today. For the past 2 years he has had a very intense job so he doesn't get to come over much anymore. Mostly stays at home because he is so exhausted. We will talk all the time on the phone though. When we talk, it is filled with gay subjects. I should mention that he is convinced I'm gay, although I've never admitted to it mainly because I have only ever been attracted to him. He will always tell me he had sex with another guy friend because he says he "knows it makes me jealous". We will also talk about stuff he hypothetically did with those guys. He also starts asking me what I'd do to him if he was ever passed out drunk (by the way, he told me one time he doesn't trust HIMSELF around me if he was drunk so he never drinks liquor when we are together anymore). He likes me to go into detail. He likes to tell me how much he ejaculates and vice-versa. It's like when he talks to me, he's in "the zone" if that makes sense.
A few more examples:
One night, he was pretty wasted and was sleeping on the couch. I thought it would be funny to wake him up by putting my finger down the back of his pants (I was pretty drunk too). I walked over and saw that his eyes were open. I still thought it would be funny to do it though plus his face was face down and to the side and I could tell his eyes were open because I could see the side of his eyelids move. So I stuck my finger down the back of his pants expecting him to jump. He didn't. he let me keep doing it for like a minute then pretended to wake up.
I was over at his house one night and he started making these sounds on a table with his feet trying to annoy me. I grabbed his feet and held them. After a few seconds, I started rubbing his feet. He didn't pull away or anything. He just let me keep doing it. After 10 minutes or so, he said "I'm going to bed (it was late anyways) and then told me "Well now you have jack off material for the next 2 months now that you got to massage my feet." He also is convinced I fantasize about him.
Recently, we went to a sporting event as well. He started to pretend like he was passing out and kept putting his hands over his face. I would push him on the shoulder but after a few seconds, I'd rest my hand on it. Then I'd start gently rubbing. After 10-15 seconds, he'd say "quit" and pull away. This happened though about 20 times in a row! And each time I'd do it, I could see his eyes were still open between his fingers, so it was like he knew that if he put his hands over his face, I would rub his shoulder.
Sorry for the long post, but I guess my question is what should I think about all of this? There are tons more examples, but I didn't want to make this post any longer than it already is. Is this a gay experience in waiting? Is there some sort of homosexual urge in him? Oh, I should also mention he consideres himself a homophobe. Yeah.
So here is the story. My friend and I are really close. Like brotherly close. We've been this way for over 5 years. When we first started hanging out in college, he'd come over to my apartment and we'd hang out and talk about some deep topics.
Well, one night he came over and started saying "Dude, there is porn on Youtube." I, of course said, no there isn't. After a while we found some videos of naked girls on Youtube. No big deal. After we watch them, he says starts just Googling up porn. We start watching porn together right there. He mostly draws attention to male actor's penis while we watch these videos. He then starts talking about his length and size and how much he ejaculates. Nothing happened, but this continued for about 3 years. He'd come over, and we'd watch porn. He told me one time "Yeah not having a girlfriend can make someone really horny" while we were watching some pretty hardcore stuff. Again nothing happened. I was a VERY shy person, so looking back on it I really wish I would have taken some action.
During these 3 years or so, we'd also "bag tag" each other (when someone taps on the front of your pants). When we did it though, we'd each hold our hand there for a few seconds and really rub it in. One time I did it to him, and he was definately semi-hard. He swivled around in the chair he was in and went "ahhh" but never threw my hand away or anything. When we'd stay in a hotel together, the first thing we'd do at night is watch porn. One particular time he kept saying how horny he was and that he needed to take a cold shower. Again, nothing happend (yes I think I may have blown many chances).
So fast-forward to today. For the past 2 years he has had a very intense job so he doesn't get to come over much anymore. Mostly stays at home because he is so exhausted. We will talk all the time on the phone though. When we talk, it is filled with gay subjects. I should mention that he is convinced I'm gay, although I've never admitted to it mainly because I have only ever been attracted to him. He will always tell me he had sex with another guy friend because he says he "knows it makes me jealous". We will also talk about stuff he hypothetically did with those guys. He also starts asking me what I'd do to him if he was ever passed out drunk (by the way, he told me one time he doesn't trust HIMSELF around me if he was drunk so he never drinks liquor when we are together anymore). He likes me to go into detail. He likes to tell me how much he ejaculates and vice-versa. It's like when he talks to me, he's in "the zone" if that makes sense.
A few more examples:
One night, he was pretty wasted and was sleeping on the couch. I thought it would be funny to wake him up by putting my finger down the back of his pants (I was pretty drunk too). I walked over and saw that his eyes were open. I still thought it would be funny to do it though plus his face was face down and to the side and I could tell his eyes were open because I could see the side of his eyelids move. So I stuck my finger down the back of his pants expecting him to jump. He didn't. he let me keep doing it for like a minute then pretended to wake up.
I was over at his house one night and he started making these sounds on a table with his feet trying to annoy me. I grabbed his feet and held them. After a few seconds, I started rubbing his feet. He didn't pull away or anything. He just let me keep doing it. After 10 minutes or so, he said "I'm going to bed (it was late anyways) and then told me "Well now you have jack off material for the next 2 months now that you got to massage my feet." He also is convinced I fantasize about him.
Recently, we went to a sporting event as well. He started to pretend like he was passing out and kept putting his hands over his face. I would push him on the shoulder but after a few seconds, I'd rest my hand on it. Then I'd start gently rubbing. After 10-15 seconds, he'd say "quit" and pull away. This happened though about 20 times in a row! And each time I'd do it, I could see his eyes were still open between his fingers, so it was like he knew that if he put his hands over his face, I would rub his shoulder.
Sorry for the long post, but I guess my question is what should I think about all of this? There are tons more examples, but I didn't want to make this post any longer than it already is. Is this a gay experience in waiting? Is there some sort of homosexual urge in him? Oh, I should also mention he consideres himself a homophobe. Yeah.
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