So I want to see my gf get fucked

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i hate the idea of it.
i'm objectified enough in this society.
i don't want my lover doing it too.

I'm not sure I understand your meaning. I think my lover is the one I want objectifying me the most, assuming that his objectified perception of me isn't all that he sees as desirable in me, because otherwise he wouldn't find me to be physically attractive, would he? I think that men who cannot objectify their wives at all end up with virgin-whore complexes, sexualizing women who aren't their wives, which itself is a kind of neglect and emotionally abusive because those women end up feeling unattractive and undesirable by the person that they love and desire that kind of intimacy with. But somehow I don't think that's what you meant...
 

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I'm not sure I understand your meaning. I think my lover is the one I want objectifying me the most, assuming that his objectified perception of me isn't all that he sees as desirable in me, because otherwise he wouldn't find me to be physically attractive, would he? I think that men who cannot objectify their wives at all end up with virgin-whore complexes, sexualizing women who aren't their wives, which itself is a kind of neglect and emotionally abusive because those women end up feeling unattractive and undesirable by the person that they love and desire that kind of intimacy with. But somehow I don't think that's what you meant...
i'm going with this definition.

ob·jec·ti·fy
tr.v. ob·jec·ti·fied, ob·jec·ti·fy·ing, ob·jec·ti·fies 1. To present or regard as an object: "Because we have objectified animals, we are able to treat them impersonally" (Barry Lopez).
2. To make objective, external, or concrete: thoughts objectified in art.

when i'm with my lover i'm seeing him a whole, wonderful, sexual person. i would like to be the same thing, and not just in-the-flesh porn or a living blow-up doll.
 

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i'm going with this definition.

ob·jec·ti·fy
tr.v. ob·jec·ti·fied, ob·jec·ti·fy·ing, ob·jec·ti·fies 1. To present or regard as an object: "Because we have objectified animals, we are able to treat them impersonally" (Barry Lopez).
2. To make objective, external, or concrete: thoughts objectified in art.

when i'm with my lover i'm seeing him a whole, wonderful, sexual person. i would like to be the same thing, and not just in-the-flesh porn or a living blow-up doll.

That's what I want, too. Because of certain feminists who classify any appreciation of physical attractiveness as objectification, that's where my misunderstanding lay.

Does the OP only sees his girlfriend as a just-in-the-flesh porn or a living blow-up doll because of his desire to be cuckolded? I really don't know.
 
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That's what I want, too. Because of certain feminists who classify any appreciation of physical attractiveness as objectification, that's where my misunderstand lay.

Does the OP only sees his girlfriend as a just-in-the-flesh porn or a living blow-up doll because of his desire to be cuckolded? I really don't know.
no idea.
but that's how it would make me feel.
 

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This sounds like something of a lie, dolfette.

Because in the thread posted below, which you started 2 weeks ago, you claim you have only had sex once in the last 3 years.

http://www.lpsg.org/271667-people-who-dont-have-sex.html
the 'when' bit passed you by.

at various points in my life i have had lovers.
and they were 'my' lovers at that point.
petite had no trouble understanding that.

are you a troll? you smell like a troll.
i'm going with troll and putting you on ignore.
i won't see your reply to this but i'm sure that, if you reply, others will be greatly amused by your snarking into empty space.

bye bye, angry little man.
 

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no idea.
but that's how it would make me feel.

I'm not being disingenuous when I say that I truly don't know how I would feel in that situation... Depending on the relationship and context, I can see myself reacting anywhere from feeling like I wasn't cared for and simply an object, to feeling trusted and like our relationship bonds were strong and based upon factors outside of sexual possessiveness so that sexual experimentation or some adventures together didn't threaten us. As a person who rather likes the possessiveness of TheBF, I think it might distress me, but I've reacted in unpredictable ways to situations in the past, so I really don' know. Considering how important TheBF is to me, I probably wouldn't want to take a risk, even if I was intrigued, but that's a consideration outside of how I would feel regarding his desire to see me with another man.

This sounds like something of a lie, dolfette.

Because in the thread posted below, which you started 2 weeks ago, you claim you have only had sex once in the last 3 years.

http://www.lpsg.org/271667-people-who-dont-have-sex.html

Even if she has never had sex, that doesn't mean that she doesn't have opinions regarding what she desires in her next lover.
 

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I'm not being disingenuous when I say that I truly don't know how I would feel in that situation... Depending on the relationship and context, I can see myself reacting anywhere from feeling like I wasn't cared for and simply an object, to feeling trusted and like our relationship bonds were strong and based upon factors outside of sexual possessiveness so that sexual experimentation or some adventures together didn't threaten us. As a person who rather likes the possessiveness of TheBF, I think it might distress me, but I've reacted in unpredictable ways to situations in the past, so I really don' know. Considering how important TheBF is to me, I probably wouldn't want to take a risk, even if I was intrigued, but that's a consideration outside of how I would feel regarding his desire to see me with another man.
i've done a threesome, but it was just something that happened and it was the three of us doing something together (rather than two of us being something for the third to observe).

in my mind there's a big difference.
 

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Wow, I definitely appreciate all the feedback! Making her feel objectified is not my intent, and I was kind of worried about that too. I also, didn't even think this would suggest any I was going outside of our relationship for pleasure, but putting myself in her shoes I could see that as well.

I know I don't mean any of those things, but definitely food for thought. Thanks again.
 

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Wow, I definitely appreciate all the feedback! Making her feel objectified is not my intent, and I was kind of worried about that too. I also, didn't even think this would suggest any I was going outside of our relationship for pleasure, but putting myself in her shoes I could see that as well.

I know I don't mean any of those things, but definitely food for thought. Thanks again.
you sound like a decent guy.
whatever you decide to do, i hope it works out ok.
 

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i've done a threesome, but it was just something that happened and it was the three of us doing something together (rather than two of us being something for the third to observe).

in my mind there's a big difference.

That's the way mine happened, but I was single at the time. It was with two ex-boyfriends whom I remained friends with, so it wasn't exactly as if all the participants only saw one another as sexual objects. We were friends. We were former lovers. There were complicated feelings. It was unexpected and surprising. It is a good memory.

I don't think I see much difference between being watched vs someone participating, other than feelings of performance anxiety, but it's all speculation anyway for me. I feel confident that TheBF will never say that he wants to be cuckolded.
 

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I think most men fantasize about this. I wouldn't mind seeing my wife with another man. Although, I would love to help out with the project.
I'm not sure about most men, but, Imo, it is a fairly common fantasy. So much so that I find the scorn posters receive when discussing the topic quite ridiculous.
 

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I'm not sure about most men, but, Imo, it is a fairly common fantasy. So much so that I find the scorn posters receive when discussing the topic quite ridiculous.

I absolutely agree with this.

I find Dolfette's whining that such a fantasy necessarily entails the "objectification of women" bot incorrect, and oppressive.

There are women on these boards who actually participate in these kinds of fantasies, and find them liberating and exciting. When done in a spirit of mutual trust, love, and with a lot of communication it's something both partners can really enjoy, if they both want to do it.

Why then does Dolfette resort to these tiresome shaming tactics?
 

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"You know, that sounds like a great idea!" is exactly what she would say to the friend of her boyfriend making a lighthearted joke about being fucked by a guy with a larger penis. Yeah.

Perhaps you ought to rethink how well you understand women.

you seam to have missed the point i wasn't suggesting you get a friend to ask her for sex, but if someone else raised the subject of 3somes or something, he would be able to gauge her attitude toward this kind of thing without being the person to suggest it.