and that's a fact! from what I've seen, this thread will be entirely out of place on here, but I truly hope to get some legitimate feedback. so here's the basic facts.....I'm a virgin with a penis 8" long and 5 1/2" in circumference (I'm not going to be posting pictures or anything to prove it, just accept it. I know it's not a ridiculous claim anyway), and my bride to be (we're not engaged yet, but we've already talked about it and know it's a year or more down the road, but I want to get this out there now so I have plenty of time to get replies) is only 5' 1" and amazing. We are, for reasons religious and just plain pragmatic, waiting till we are married to have sex. Trust me, it's going to take all the will and cunning I posses to make it there, but we will make it. We've already fooled around making out and stuff. I've even made her climax on several occasions just rubbing her clitoris through her jeans, so it may seem odd that I am even asking this question, but.... How can I make our first time as painless and pleasurable as possible for her??? I know that scientifically, a female's height doesn't have anything to do with the size of her vagina, but I know that no matter what, 8" by 5 1/2" isn't going to go down all that easy. So that's what I want from you. Men: what have you done/do to make sex easier on the girl. Women: if you lost your virginity to a large penis, what was it like? what could have made it better? or even if you weren't a virgin. I know that I'm going to get mostly post along the lines of "just @%$# her brains out and make her squeal" or "make her take it all the first time, and then she won't have a choice from then on" but I'm truely hoping to get some sound advice on this. I know that not all of the members here are juvenille pricks. I'm sure this whole thing makes me seem like I'm asking for your help while trying to stay "above" you in some way. Trust me, I'm not. I'm as flawed as the rest of us. So beyond my request, make this thread what you want it to be. Political, Religious, Emotional, Whimsical....all banter is desire. The fact is that I love to just talk (particularly in text format) about eveything. Thanks for your help! also, I won't get very detailed at all about it, but I will tell you how it goes when we finally do the deed, woot woot!