So.....is this the end of Rush???

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Gotta love Rush. He's all up in arms about people who "want to have sex without consequences."

Guess he wants women to just shut up and get pregnant, like the good old days.


All actions have consequences.........if you take the chance of having sex without protection you deal with the consequences. But don't make it my or anybody else's problem if you get prego or sick. If you don't want to get prego or sick and still have sex, figure out a way to pay for your own protection. Last time I checked condoms were cheap and in some cases (planned parenthood) free, and Birth control was relatively cheap. So instead of buying that Ipod or data plan to go with your fancy iphone or night out at the bar.....you should have invested in some sort of sex protection for yourself.
 

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Consequences?
So when is rush getting shot for being a drug user?

"drug users should be shot" -retard limbaugh





Its thousands of times cheaper for society to provide birth control, than raise/ incarcerate unwanted children.
 
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Four More Advertisers Ditching Rush Limbaugh | ThinkProgress

"In total, this makes 26 advertisers who have taken steps to end ads on Limbaugh’s show since last week."


Non sequitur (logic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It takes considerable ignorance to believe that anyone here is unaware of that fact. But then, if your understanding of the term "left wing" is shifted as far to the right as terms like "socialist" are shifted in the speech of self-described conservatives of today (a use of terms under which, e.g., President Eisenhower comes out as a leftie), then what you say is indeed not widely known, but also not true.

This is such silly and puerile paranoid nonsense that I can't bring myself to give it a serious reply. Maybe someone else will.

A "plant"? How is she a "plant"? Apparently, you agree with Darrel Issa that a hearing on the coverage of female contraception by insurance policies is a process in which only celibate Catholic clergymen can give testimony and in which women have no business.

If your claims have a basis in fact, provide it.

Perhaps my favorite post on this site. Thank you for applying logic to the discussion.
 

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All actions have consequences.........if you take the chance of having sex without protection you deal with the consequences. But don't make it my or anybody else's problem if you get prego or sick. If you don't want to get prego or sick and still have sex, figure out a way to pay for your own protection. Last time I checked condoms were cheap and in some cases (planned parenthood) free, and Birth control was relatively cheap. So instead of buying that Ipod or data plan to go with your fancy iphone or night out at the bar.....you should have invested in some sort of sex protection for yourself.

It *is* your problem if people get pregnant or sick--unwanted children and costly medical issues are a problem for society as a whole.

The question is, are we going to acknowledge that connection and work as a society to address these issues--or will we remain stuck in a myopic "not my problem" mode?
 

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When Rush is on a roll he is a Political Commentator but when he is on the ropes he is an entertainer was just joking. Which is it? At least with Stewart there is some truth in his comedy act, there is no Comedy in Limbaugh's Commentator act.
 

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SWEET.....we have a winner!!!

Here's a link to the "plant" issue

Sandra Fluke Is Really 30 Years Old And Went to Georgetown Knowing Contraception Wasn’t Covered | Video | TheBlaze.com

Granted most on this board will probably dismiss the story because of the source, but if you look at the links and articles the story does reference.....makes you wonder.
Sandra Fluke is "really" 30 years old: how is this supposed to be relevant to anything? When did she ever claim to be of any other age? A transcript of her testimony can be read here. At no point does she say how old she is. Apparently there were some people who thought that she was 23 years old (which would be unusually young for a third-year law student). Your view apparently is that if someone makes erroneous statements about a person's age, the person whose age has been misstated is somehow discredited.

The evidence that the article offers to support its contention that "Fluke intentionally chose to go to Georgetown so she could agitate and sway them to cover contraceptives" is this passage:
Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.

Fluke says she would have used the hearing to talk about the students at Georgetown that don’t have birth control covered, and what that’s meant for them. “I wanted to be able to share their stories,” she says. “My testimony would have been about women who have been affected by their policy, who have medical needs and have suffered dire consequences.. . .The committee did not get to hear real stories I had to share, about actual women who have been dramatically affected by this policy.”
The passage shows (1) that Ms. Fluke chose to attend Georgetown despite its non-coverage of contraceptive expenses, and (2) that she wanted to talk about this issue in her testimony. To adduce this passage as evidence that she "chose to go to Georgetown so she could agitate and sway them to cover contraceptives" is another fine example of the non-sequitur--unless, perhaps, the writer of the article is such an imbecile as to think that when Fluke said, "I wanted to be able to share their stories," she was referring, not (as anyone but an idiot or a person rendered idiotic by political bias can see) to the time when she expected to give testimony before the congressional committee, but to a time three or four years ago when she was thinking about what law school to go to. In that case, the argument is not so much an example of non-sequitur as an example of incompetence in reading.

In either case, your evidence for your claim is, essentially, nothing at all.
Nice reference of Wiki......

On Rush's backers.....its call reactionary policies. Its like when that commentator said "chink in armor" headline with ESPN. Who own's ESPN? Disney, they will do whatever it takes to protect business. So when something could be taking out of context or see as offensive....just get rid of it. Don't ask quesitons.....just fix it. You know that the author of that headline is also married to an asia woman, right? Must be a huge racist :rolleyes:

To me it seems as your view of what is left and right wing is so far to the left you thing fascists are right wing.

And as far as my "paranoid nonsense", who are the ones protecting the democrats? Or won't question the presidents policies? Who are the biggest contributors to the democratic/leftist parties?
I can see no coherent argument in this babble of yours and don't understand what it is supposed to mean--not that I care. You have given compelling evidence of one fact only: that you are a loudly braying jackass.
 

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Four More Advertisers Ditching Rush Limbaugh | ThinkProgress

"In total, this makes 26 advertisers who have taken steps to end ads on Limbaugh’s show since last week." ....

What I found interesting was the list of advertisers who dropped "The Asshole", including three: J.C. Penny, Capital One [it's spelled CapitOl in the article...is this the bank?], and Netflix - all three of which I am or have been a customer, and wouldn't have been had I know they were advertising with this stupid fuck in the first place.

All forgiven, in light of their recent moves. BTW, I might have mentioned this here before but just in case I didn't, FUCK Limbaugh.
 
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Boycotting is a very legit way of social activism; Christianists have been doing it for years (see Disney, et al), as have those with both moderate and progressive tendencies.

The best part of boycotting is that it actually works (at least within the associated demographics); some tar and several feathers definitely do their intended job. Everyone in the US has the right to express his/her political views, however they also have every reason to expect consequences from airing their views, especially when such views are loathsome and contrary to majority opinion.

Those who live by the sword are doomed to die by it; that's been true for thousands of years, and certainly never truer than right now. Rush has every right to spew his venom, and greater society as a whole has every right to repudiate his toxic views and take their money to those who most closely mirror their values, to the loss of the venomous and their financial well-being.

Ms Fluke's motives are of no concern to me. I do, however, care a great deal about her message. I honestly thought that the whole birth control issue was dead in the water for decades; let the reactionary polemicists spout whatever they like: it's a losing issue with the vast majority of the American electorate.

And, just for shits and giggles, why is the party of individual freedom (allegedly) so quick to deny such a basic right as a woman's right to decide when and how she'll conceive? Once the Republicans decided to equate birth control with abortion, most nearly every thinking person puked a bit in his/her mouth. It's an issue that obviously loses supporters.

But it's a well-known fact that once a movement hunts for heretics instead of converts, they're in a terrible state of decline, and the GOP has been in a state of decadence for decades. This latest debacle is just the latest nail in the coffin; let them wander in the wilderness at least as long as the Democrats did in the 80s and early 90s until they learn how to moderate their approach and temper the worst excesses of their base.

It will serve them (and our nation as a whole) much good. We cannot survive without at least two viable, electable parties. My guess is that in four or eight years Republicans will split into three discrete groups: Establishment, Teabaggers and Christianists (the latter two are essentially the same, IMO). Until the GOP rediscovers secularist humanism they'll lose not just Latinos, Blacks, Millennialists and GLBTs, but the greater pool of independents who are repelled by the culture wars currently being waged. They only create division and gridlock, which has paralyzed our government for the the last three years.

Victory is achieved through compromise in a representative republic such as ours. Though I violently disagree with many of the compromises Clinton made (DADT and DOMA, principally), I do understand that he was working the the Congress he had (not that which he might have preferred). The current Congress has zero interest in compromise and has poisoned the air on Capitol Hill: just ask Olympia Snow.
 

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So what Maher, Schultz and every other Leftist/Marxist/Communist/Socialist commentator says about people of the right, middle america, or any other Conservative that speaks up is ok?

I hate to break it to most on this board, but the left wing is the minority in this country. But seeing as they make up the most of news commentators, opinion writers, college professors, etc. they control the message. And will "beat down" any opposition opinion, but when one of their own does something that they accuse the right of doing they look the other way.....or call it a "distraction".

Once the left treats their own like they do the right.......they need to get off their high hypocritical horse.

FYI......Miss Fluke was a plant by the democrats on that day, just to cause mis-direction and change the big news stories of the day or week. She mis-represented herself during her little presentation, she's actually 30 and apply to Georgetown, not for the education....but to change their policies. Instead of finding an institution that shared her values...she decided to go to one she didn't agree with and change it.
lmao...
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It *is* your problem if people get pregnant or sick--unwanted children and costly medical issues are a problem for society as a whole.

The question is, are we going to acknowledge that connection and work as a society to address these issues--or will we remain stuck in a myopic "not my problem" mode?


Ok, so lets take your idea to the logical conclusion:

Mandatory, ENFORCED, surgically reversible sterilization for EVERYONE until they:

* Are at least 18 years old

* Graduate school

* Demonstrate they have at least a certain amount of intelligence and respect for others

* Prove they have marketable skills and desire to be a productive member of society



That way society won't have to worry about unwanted children.
 

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In the early Rush days, Snapple bottled iced tea was a major sponsor. Lately, their shelf space in stores has been reduced to a trivial amount. Snapple is clearly not the beverage of the young generation. Wonder why ?
 
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Perhaps my favorite post on this site. Thank you for applying logic to the discussion.

Logic?

President Eisenhower had progressive social policies and was an interventionalist. Granted a he ran as a Republican, but was a progressive none the less. Yes, there are progressives on both sides of the fence; think Teddy Roosevelt.

Ever hear of the depression of 1920? I wonder why? Because if proves that if the government takes their hands off the economy and let it work itself out, things recover. Ever wonder why the great depression took so long to recover from? How about what actually caused it?
 

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lmao...
Get rid of all Anti-People Politicians this November!
Get up off your tired asses and register to vote and VOTE.
OBAMA/BIDEN.....2012

Anti-people Politicians?

So you want to vote for the Marxist-in-Chief? Do as I say not as I do?

Man, I wish I could throw huge parties and golf as much as he does. But I am glad he and his wife and tell me and my kids what to eat, how to think, what to drive, etc. Worked really well for the Soviet Union through the 80's didn't?
 

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So if Miss Fluke wants her college's health insurance to pay for her contraception, because its her basic human right. Can I ask for my homeowner's insurance to supply me with a gun because its one of my rights, second amendment?
 

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Ok, so lets take your idea to the logical conclusion:

Mandatory, ENFORCED, surgically reversible sterilization for EVERYONE until they:

* Are at least 18 years old

* Graduate school

* Demonstrate they have at least a certain amount of intelligence and respect for others

* Prove they have marketable skills and desire to be a productive member of society



That way society won't have to worry about unwanted children.

And by "logical conclusion," of course, you mean ridiculous extreme.
 

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And by "logical conclusion," of course, you mean ridiculous extreme.

Why....takes all the consquenses and responsibilities away from the population that many on this board and progressives say can't handle it. I mean it falls right in line with Margaret Sanger's line of thought. And she's a champion of progressives.

Plus, think of all the savings that would be had in terms of health care!!!!!
 

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So if Miss Fluke wants her college's health insurance to pay for her contraception, because its her basic human right. Can I ask for my homeowner's insurance to supply me with a gun because its one of my rights, second amendment?


Contraception is part of women's health, and thus should be covered by insurance. It is one of the reasons why people pay for health insurance, and health insurance is part of college fees.

Owning a gun is not part of owning a home. Gun owners are a "minority in this country."

If you're going to make arguments, at least present plausible ones.
 

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Contraception is part of women's health, and thus should be covered by insurance. It is one of the reasons why people pay for health insurance, and health insurance is part of college fees.

Owning a gun is not part of owning a home. Gun owners are a "minority in this country."

If you're going to make arguments, at least present plausible ones.

Unless a woman needs it to control a medical condition, explain to me just how a woman need contraception to live?

If Gun owner's are a minority......why are sales thru the roof. And do you ever leave the state of Cali or any large city where gun ownership is harder than the rest of the country? Do you have any facts to back up your claim?