So...trump used his 1st press briefing to lie and complain about media

[Industrialsize]

I do understand what you're saying...
1.)People get their information from somewhere...yeah, well, 'somewhere' is the problem, isn't it?
2.) Divergent views of reality...I don't want a view (a subset, as it were) of reality: I'd like the whole 'real deal.'
Divergent views of reality are what Trump, Hannity, Rove, Limbaugh, Spicer, Conway, (et al.) offer;
Put another way (and I agree 'to the extreme') , realities we cannot agree on are, IMHO, hallucinations.
3.) I don't see where anyone here has suggested acceptance a collapse of social cohesion.
4.) No, we don't take Trump's word at face value--I don't think even members of his own party do.
5.) I believe in the idea of responsible journalism, I just haven't seen much of it, especially since the beginning of this 2016 campaign.
6.) and so, since idea and practice of responsible journalism differ, where does that leave me?
7.) And @TexanStar, please point me to what you think are credible media, which I seem to have trouble finding on my own

Buy a newspaper. Don't trust the national ones? Find a local one you trust. We need "beat journalists" to hold this president's feet to the fire.

 

[Chrysippus]

Buy a newspaper. Don't trust the national ones? Find a local one you trust. We need "beat journalists" to hold this president's feet to the fire.

My local newspaper is a republican rag, thanks. I dont see any beat journalists.

 

[Industrialsize]

My local newspaper is a republican rag, thanks. I dont see any beat journalists.

Then find a newspaper you like. A journalist you like. The ENTIRE media is not shit. And if you think not a person or publication in the world can be trusted for news, you have just crossed the line to doomsday prepper.

 

[TexanStar]

7.) And @TexanStar, please point me to what you think are credible media, which I seem to have trouble finding on my own

For in depth coverage:

https://www.youtube.com/user/PBSfrontline is good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight is good too (it's a comedy show, but they do a good job of mining investigative journalism for their segments).

For news of the day:

https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/to-the-point isn't bad

 

[Chrysippus]

For in depth coverage:

https://www.youtube.com/user/PBSfrontline is good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight is good too (it's a comedy show, but they do a good job of mining investigative journalism for their segments).

For news of the day:

https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/to-the-point isn't bad

thanks.

 

[deleted116951]

If any good comes of all this it will hopefully be that news outlets get back to actual reporting and fact checking real news instead of inundating us with what the Kardashians are up to.

 

[JulieInNaplesFL]

Man if you look at all the post on this thread you'd think Hillary got beat.

Oh wait, she did. lololololololololololololol.

Poor snowflakes.

 

[chrysler fanatic]

The part we should be worried about is why people even care which crowd was bigger.
Obama was the first non-white president for crying out loud. His crowd should have been bigger than it was!
I have seen so many different photos of the crowds and heard so many different facts on how many and why coming from both sides of the media bias, and I finally asked myself, "who gives a shit? This is stupid."

I did hear a reporter on our local news station saying that he met Spicer and that he is a straight shooter, but definately tougher and more belligerent than past press secs. This local reporter is fairly ambiguous in his politics, so I hope his impression is correct.

Bottom line. We are dumb for caring about this.

 

[Klingsor]

Bottom line. We are dumb for caring about this.

The problem is, Trump cares--and lies--about it. Not a good sign of things to come.

 

[Novaboy]

Man if you look at all the post on this thread you'd think Hillary got beat.

Oh wait, she did. lololololololololololololol.

Poor snowflakes.

Only by your fucked up system. Getting 3000000 less votes than Hilary is a hollow victory. Though Trump of course calls it one of the biggest wins ever.

 

[b.c.]

Only by your fucked up system. Getting 3000000 less votes than Hilary is a hollow victory. Though Trump of course calls it one of the biggest wins ever.

One would think that they'd at LEAST come up some original dog whistle terminology - instead of "snowflake" and shit that asswipes like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity spoon feed them on a DAILY basic.

Oh... wait... on second thought, no. THAT would actually require a BRAIN.

 

[Jjz1109]

The problem is, Trump cares--and lies--about it. Not a good sign of things to come.

Probably because it's been replayed, and replayed, and replayed by the media.

In my opinion, not one he should have taken the bait on when the media first made this a "story." Like Chrysler fanatic says, it's dumb. Who cares? The ones who want to make it "newsworthy." Time to move on.

 

[Chrysippus]

Probably because it's been replayed, and replayed, and replayed by the media.

In my opinion, not one he should have taken the bait on when the media first made this a "story." Like Chrysler fanatic says, it's dumb. Who cares? The ones who want to make it "newsworthy." Time to move on.

1.) Spicer didn't take the bait--Trump did: Spicer is Trump's press secretary and spokesman, the handpuppet on Trump's dick. You dont expect anyone to think that Donnie didn't approve the Saturday
Spicer tantrum. The tirade had Trump written all over it--bigly. Plus it's characteristic Donnie, fearful of comparisons and anxious anout crowd size, a hallmark of his campaign remarks about rally size.

2.) Spicer made it newsworthy by giving the Saturday session with the media, whose job it is to cover Spicer's statements.

3.) You Trumpsters want to move on because you don't like the fact that Trump and Spicer stepped in it--publicly.

 

[Klingsor]

In my opinion, not one he should have taken the bait on when the media first made this a "story."

Everyone's opinion--but it's going to keep happening. When has Trump ever refused to take the bait?

 

[Jjz1109]

1.) Spicer didn't take the bait--Trump did: Spicer is Trump's press secretary and spokesman, the handpuppet on Trump's dick. You dont expect anyone to think that Donnie didn't approve the Saturday
Spicer tantrum. The tirade had Trump written all over it--bigly. Plus it's characteristic Donnie, fearful of comparisons and anxious anout crowd size, a hallmark of his campaign remarks about rally size.

2.) Spicer made it newsworthy by giving the Saturday session with the media, whose job it is to cover Spicer's statements.

3.) You Trumpsters want to move on because you don't like the fact that Trump and Spicer stepped in it--publicly.

#1. Trump never passed up a fight he didn't like. Especially when it's directed at him. His biggest personal issue he needs to deal with IMO.

#2. Spicer made it newsworthy only after the liberal media (yup, I said it) felt the need to post the now infamous pic.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd.html?_r=0

I don't agree with the response, but understand where the anger and frustration was coming from, effective Day 1. Let the hate and attacks begin. My view? Very petty and unprofessional of the media, but not a surprise. Mine is bigger than yours. Whatever, the liberal media looks to frame public opinion, instead of being objective, it's a new era.

#3. Only in the wacky world of the LPSG politics thread is someone who doesn't follow the pack called a "trumpster." Show me where I stated I voted for trump. I guess unless I jump on the bandwagon here, support the pink pussies, and all the whiners, then by default I must be a trumpster. Got it.

 

[Industrialsize]

#1. Trump never passed up a fight he didn't like. Especially when it's directed at him. His biggest personal issue he needs to deal with IMO.

#2. Spicer made it newsworthy only after the liberal media (yup, I said it) felt the need to post the now infamous pic.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd.html?_r=0

I don't agree with the response, but understand where the anger and frustration was coming from, effective Day 1. Let the hate and attacks begin. My view? Very petty and unprofessional of the media, but not a surprise. Mine is bigger than yours. Whatever, the liberal media looks to frame public opinion, instead of being objective, it's a new era.

#3. Only in the wacky world of the LPSG politics thread is someone who doesn't follow the pack called a "trumpster." Show me where I stated I voted for trump. I guess unless I jump on the bandwagon here, support the pink pussies, and all the whiners, then by default I must be a trumpster. Got it.

Trump hasn't stopped whining since he took office. Tell him to put his "bigboy" pants on and to turn off the TV. (he'll probably be installing them in the Oval Office any day)

 

[Chrysippus]

Only in the wacky world of the LPSG politics thread is someone who doesn't follow the pack called a "trumpster.

C'mon, you run in a pack of your own with Julie from Naples, Mercury Girl, Kingjf64 et al.: your knee jerk is on the right side, not on the left.
If you don't like the media, turn 'em off.
Wacky world of LPSG politics? Then why are you posting here?

 

[b.c.]

Trump hasn't stopped whining since he took office. Tell him to put his "bigboy" pants on and to turn off the TV. (he'll probably be installing them in the Oval Office any day)

Exactly. It all shows a rather pitiful lack of "presidential integrity" on his part, not that he's ever demonstrated it before. As of late he's still pushing the absurd notion that "millions of illegals" voted against him in the last election.

It's really PATHETIC.

White House doubles down on voter fraud claim

 

[b.c.]

C'mon, you run in a pack of your own with Julie from Naples, Mercury Girl, Kingjf64 et al.: your knee jerk is on the right side, not on the left.
If you don't like the media, turn 'em off.
Wacky world of LPSG politics? Then why are you posting here?

PRECISELY. I've a newsflash for him, you don't necessarily have to had voted for Trump to be considered a "trumpster." Second newsflash, he is not judged by "default." He's judged by who/what he supports, who/what he defends, and what he ignores or dismisses.

And frankly, he's sometimes said and defended some pretty "questionable" (to use a kinder word) things.

 

[JulieInNaplesFL]

Only by your fucked up system. Getting 3000000 less votes than Hilary is a hollow victory. Though Trump of course calls it one of the biggest wins ever.

Our fucked up system? And you live in Canada? lol

If you removed the leftest idiots out of two small areas of America Trump would have had the popular vote also. Start with LA, CA and NYC. Sure we want LA idiots and NYC fools running America.
Were not a Democracy, Maybe you need to study what type of government we are.

If you think your country is so much better than ours then why do 77% of Canadians live within 150 miles of the American border? Easy access to a great Country maybe?
No need to answer I know you empty answer.