So. What does it mean to be French?

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  1. ubered

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    Now, now... be nice people!! :biggrin1:

    Nicolas Sarkozy recently launched a national debate on French identity. French citizens are being enouraged to participate and contribute their input on what being French means to them. This is supposed to culminate in some kind of conclusion at some point.

    What's the debate all about? Anti-immigration/islamophobia? A necessary search for consensus in a changing world? Political manipulation? France clinging to national identity in context where this is increasingly irrelevant?

    And most of all: what does it mean to be French?
     
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    To fossilize your language so it doesn't change. To house "political" creatures like Ira Einhorn and Roman Polanski. To eat cheese and snails. To wine and sleep.
     
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    La langue de chez nous

    by Yves Duteil

    Album: La langue de chez nous

    C'est une langue belle avec des mots superbes
    Qui porte son histoire à travers ses accents
    Où l'on sent la musique et le parfum des herbes
    Le fromage de chèvre et le pain de froment

    Et du Mont-Saint-Michel jusqu'à la Contrescarpe
    En écoutant parler les gens de ce pays
    On dirait que le vent s'est pris dans une harpe
    Et qu'il en a gardé toutes les harmonies

    Dans cette langue belle aux couleurs de Provence
    Où la saveur des choses est déjà dans les mots
    C'est d'abord en parlant que la fête commence
    Et l'on boit des paroles aussi bien que de l'eau

    Les voix ressemblent aux cours des fleuves et des rivières
    Elles répondent aux méandres, au vent dans les roseaux
    Parfois même aux torrents qui charrient du tonnerre
    En polissant les pierres sur le bord des ruisseaux

    C'est une langue belle à l'autre bout du monde
    Une bulle de France au nord d'un continent
    Sertie dans un étau mais pourtant si féconde
    Enfermée dans les glaces au sommet d'un volcan

    Elle a jeté des ponts par-dessus l'Atlantique
    Elle a quitté son nid pour un autre terroir
    Et comme une hirondelle au printemps des musiques
    Elle revient nous chanter ses peines et ses espoirs

    Nous dire que là-bas dans ce pays de neige
    Elle a fait face aux vents qui soufflent de partout,
    Pour imposer ses mots jusque dans les collèges
    Et qu'on y parle encore la langue de chez nous

    C'est une langue belle à qui sait la défendre
    Elle offre les trésors de richesses infinies
    Les mots qui nous manquaient pour pouvoir nous comprendre
    Et la force qu'il faut pour vivre en harmonie

    Et l'Île d'Orléans jusqu'à la Contrescarpe
    En écoutant chanter les gens de ce pays
    On dirait que le vent s'est pris dans une harpe
    Et qu'il a composé toute une symphonie

    Et de l'Île d'Orléans jusqu'à Contrescarpe
    En écoutant chanter les gens de ce pays
    On dirait que le vent s'est pris dans une harpe
    Et qu'il a composé toute une symphonie.
     
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    To be French is to be lovely. To be Parisian, however, is to be assholic. :wink:
     
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    To ride round on a bicycle in a stripey shirt, with some onions round yer neck.
    Ohh, and to own a 2CV. ;)

    Only kiddin - I actually really like France and les frogs. :D
     
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    The last war they won was their civil war.

    Only joking, I am something of a francophile, but I have met the most remarkably chauvinist Frenchies. Simply put, everything about them is best, culture. climate, geography, music, art, philosophy, food, wine, women and of course no other man can make love like a frenchman.

    Personally though, I do not believe that the world owes France a living for being sooooo wonderful.
     
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    They're quite good at hosting invasions, tho... :wink: (sorry!)
     
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    I know, but which side?
     
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    I almost bought a Deux Chevaux back in the day. One step up at best from Fred Flinstone's wheels.
    I'm sure it would have been a gas.


    Hmmm.
    Joll, what happened to you?
    That's real wit.
    :tongue:

    I always found the French lovely ... yes, even the Parisiens.
    A bit stuck in the past with these visions of French glory.
    But there was something wonderful about seeing a big-bellied truck driver step down from his cab and start speaking that beautiful, musical language.
    And French food is no longer automatically considered top dog in the cuisine sweepstakes, but it's still damn fine food.
     
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    The winning side, D'uh :biggrin1:
     
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    To be a "surrender monkey"?

    I don't know, just heard.
     
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    To have crepes and play the accordion all day?
     
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    to remind the americans that if it wasnt for french forces in america during the war of independence - that tipped the war in a america's favour - the war may have ended differently.
     
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    For the French on Continental Europe, right?
     
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    The French saved your ass - the shame :tongue:
     
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    Yes, the king of France was brilliant to sow the seeds of his own discontent with his long delayed altruistic behavior.
     
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    Paranoid, private, pessimistic, and always complaining...(sorry for the generalizations)

    France has always had a surprisingly high suicide rate for a country that prides itself on its "joie de vivre."

    But I still love them and always will.:smile:

    Yeah, they helped the Americans out in the Revolutionary War.
     
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    Didn't I say to be nice??!! You just can't resist you lot, can you? :biggrin1:

    Il n'y a pas des français ici pour donner leurs points de vue? Allez-y, soyez pas timides!!
     
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    Part of what it means to be French is the ability to piss off many Americans without ever saying or doing anything. LOL.
     
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    Silly, silly me.
     
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