So women aint stupid right?

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It's just that I think advertising companies think they are. Since the greatest proportion of shopping of all kinds is still done by women and this makes most women extremely savvy consumers, why is it that I see dozens of mascara adverts claiming to give women enormous eyelashes without using falsies which have models and celebs blatantly wearing false eyelashes in them? And then there's all the pain free Epilator adverts, and the endless print adverts with women who look almost foetally young from insanely excessive airbrushing which claim your skin will definitely look like this if you spend enormous cash sums on this or that foundation or this or that cream.

Oh and there's all the slimming pill adverts which seem to have become popular recently, snake oil "herbal" things usually which claim to help you loose pounds and pounds.

Oh and the Laxative adverts which show a young slender woman looking miserable at the thought of dressing up to go out because she feels "bloated" (spot the euphemism) and then shows her glammed up and smiling after having shat herself thin.

Or there's the shampoo and hair dye adverts which promise orgasms and supermodel hair.

Now I'm not even going to get in to how retarded most adverts aimed at men are, and anyway most men are thick stupid enough to be seduced by the idea that some deodorant that reeks of kerosene and dishwasher detergent will make him a total poon magnet with the body of an Jamaican pornstar.

And I'm going to fess up that I'm an enthusiastic consumer myself who will spend lots and lots on all kinds of prettily packaged nonsense with long lists of exotic ingredients and suspiciously potent claims attached in my endless search for the secret of stopping the signs of the passage of time.


But don't you Ladies ever want to drag the whole festering crowd of gangsters and liars in the advertising industry out in to the street and trample them to a bloody pulp with your Christian Louboutin stilettos for presuming that you're all a bunch of dribbling imbeciles with nothing to show for your excellent educations but a big ol credit limit and a fervent desire to starve yourself and try and look like someone with a totally different body and face to you?

I mean you women are smart right? Don't it piss you off something terrible?
 

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Ugh, don't even get me started. Millions of dollars are spent every day to advertise products that need no advertising whatsoever. The worst thing about these ads is they make us appear idiotic.

"...body of a Jamaican porn star." Priceless!

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It's just that I think advertising companies think they are. Since the greatest proportion of shopping of all kinds is still done by women and this makes most women extremely savvy consumers, why is it that I see dozens of mascara adverts claiming to give women enormous eyelashes without using falsies which have models and celebs blatantly wearing false eyelashes in them? And then there's all the pain free Epilator adverts, and the endless print adverts with women who look almost foetally young from insanely excessive airbrushing which claim your skin will definitely look like this if you spend enormous cash sums on this or that foundation or this or that cream.

Oh and there's all the slimming pill adverts which seem to have become popular recently, snake oil "herbal" things usually which claim to help you loose pounds and pounds.

Oh and the Laxative adverts which show a young slender woman looking miserable at the thought of dressing up to go out because she feels "bloated" (spot the euphemism) and then shows her glammed up and smiling after having shat herself thin.

Or there's the shampoo and hair dye adverts which promise orgasms and supermodel hair.

Now I'm not even going to get in to how retarded most adverts aimed at men are, and anyway most men are thick stupid enough to be seduced by the idea that some deodorant that reeks of kerosene and dishwasher detergent will make him a total poon magnet with the body of an Jamaican pornstar.

And I'm going to fess up that I'm an enthusiastic consumer myself who will spend lots and lots on all kinds of prettily packaged nonsense with long lists of exotic ingredients and suspiciously potent claims attached in my endless search for the secret of stopping the signs of the passage of time.


But don't you Ladies ever want to drag the whole festering crowd of gangsters and liars in the advertising industry out in to the street and trample them to a bloody pulp with your Christian Louboutin stilettos for presuming that you're all a bunch of dribbling imbeciles with nothing to show for your excellent educations but a big ol credit limit and a fervent desire to starve yourself and try and look like someone with a totally different body and face to you?

I mean you women are smart right? Don't it piss you off something terrible?

Rofl I've decided I really like you:tongue: Yes I feel like this all the time. Their eyelash's are always fake. The Victoria's Secret models STARVE and work out all the time, I would never be that thin unless I were sick it's just not in my gene's. No hair product is going to make your hair better it's DEAD stop bleaching and dyeing it and it will stop breaking and looking like fuzz. I've just decided for me personally makeup sucks and people who expect me to prance around like a supermodel are wacked in the head. It's not going to happen. I like to feel pretty. But none of that crap make's me beautiful. I'd rather be beautiful without it. Of course it doesn't mean I never pick up some new lip gloss or the occasional tube of mascara... but most of it lives underneath the cabinet in my bathroom never to see the light of day while my trusty softlips or carmex is in my pocket. As long as I have one of those things and a hairbrush I'm ready to face the world:cool:
 

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most women don't spend a fortune on such self harming shit, but the sizable minority who do make up a lot of spending power.

a sizable minority of men will spend a small fortune to sit in the stands and watch a ball being knocked around...or buy a vibrating, lubing razor with seven blades, guard wires, matching brand gel, spray & balm and an ad promising beautiful women will want to stroke your face.

i sizable minority of people are fucking morons.
yes, it pisses me off.
 

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Ugh, don't even get me started. Millions of dollars are spent every day to advertise products that need no advertising whatsoever. The worst thing about these ads is they make us appear idiotic.

"...body of a Jamaican porn star." Priceless!

:laughing:


This is what's mystifying because even in their own terms advertising and marketing and PR companies admit that women are incredibly intelligent consumers who after a couple of centuries of rampant capitalism have actually developed shark-like shopping reflexes. So why do they continue to treat you like you all have major brain injuries? I mean doesn't this kinda perpetuate the notion that women are airheads? Is this a part of why men have such a fucked up conception of how women think?

Rofl I've decided I really like you:tongue:



Carmex? Hairbrush? I think I like you too. :wink:

most women don't spend a fortune on such self harming shit, but the sizable minority who do make up a lot of spending power.

a sizable minority of men will spend a small fortune to sit in the stands and watch a ball being knocked around...or buy a vibrating, lubing razor with seven blades, guard wires, matching brand gel, spray & balm and an ad promising beautiful women will want to stroke your face.

i sizable minority of people are fucking morons.
yes, it pisses me off.


That I can believe. A fool and his money are easily parted. I sort of discount men though for being in most cases only a little more perceptive than a Stoat with a hardon.


Nah - it did when I was a kid - but now I just ignore them.

I don't buy any of that shit. That's punishment enough for them.

Punishment enough? I say no punishment is enough! It's time to storm the Bastille de Batards Ladies, let's get busy with the knitting while the heads start rolling! :biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:
 

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For what it's worth, my girlfriend (who has an MBA in marketing) has to be lead around stores like Macy's by the hand to prevent her from buying clothes she makes sorry excuses as for buying.

It's either the music or some scent in the air - as soon as we walk into the store she's becomes a mindless, money-spending zombie. Then, she complains "Where is all my money going?" When I point out that she went on a shopping spree she'll say
"but those 4 dresses were only $60 each and those 8 shirts were only $30 each; on sale!"
 

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Ok...so, I'll be the cold bath here...

Those adverts are still used because they work. They use womens' tactics against them - emotional manipulation. It works on women that are morons. It works on highly intelligent women. Unless you make everything you use or have everything you use custom made, some kind of marketing or advert has influenced your purchasing decision for things you've bought. The fact that it works on you doesn't make you stupid. It's proof of your humanity.
 

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Ok...so, I'll be the cold bath here...

Those adverts are still used because they work. They use womens' tactics against them - emotional manipulation. It works on women that are morons. It works on highly intelligent women. Unless you make everything you use or have everything you use custom made, some kind of marketing or advert has influenced your purchasing decision for things you've bought. The fact that it works on you doesn't make you stupid. It's proof of your humanity.


I'm not saying that all advertising is stupid or that responding to all advertising makes one stupid. I'm saying that a vast selection of adverts do seem to be pushing idiotic messages and presuming that most women in particular are stupid, and that a lot of it is sheer crookery.

I in common with almost everyone in the developed world am influenced by advertising all the time, but I find myself influenced by advertising and marketing which aims itself at an intellectual level I feel less insulted by.
 

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I'm not saying that all advertising is stupid or that responding to all advertising makes one stupid. I'm saying that a vast selection of adverts do seem to be pushing idiotic messages and presuming that most women in particular are stupid, and that a lot of it is sheer crookery.

Well, you are stupid (if you insist on using that word) if you fall for it. And given the ROI from those adverts, I'd say more than a majority of the market is dumb enough to fall for it

I in common with almost everyone in the developed world am influenced by advertising all the time, but I find myself influenced by advertising and marketing which aims itself at an intellectual level I feel less insulted by.

Don't feel too special.

What you're saying is that you'll allow yourself to be maniuplated as long as you don't feel like your intelligence is insulted. That actually makes you easier to manipulate, especially on a personal level.
 

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Don't feel too special.

What you're saying is that you'll allow yourself to be maniuplated as long as you don't feel like your intelligence is insulted. That actually makes you easier to manipulate, especially on a personal level.


No I think you should read what I wrote, I said "I find myself influenced by advertising and marketing which aims itself at an intellectual level I feel less insulted by.

Not "as long as you don't feel like your intelligence is insulted"

There's a subtle difference. But feel free to be snarky instead if you don't want to look for it. :wink:





















 

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Don't feel too special.

What you're saying is that you'll allow yourself to be maniuplated as long as you don't feel like your intelligence is insulted. That actually makes you easier to manipulate, especially on a personal level.

The manipulation is sometimes so subtle that it slips under our radar. Pink razors for women that cost at least three dollars more than men's blue razors. Why? Because pink is more expensive packaging? No, because they can charge more for "feminine" products. Same thing with deodorant. We need razors and deodorant but the girly stuff cost more. Which is why I use my friend's razor which he left here last summer and replace the blades. Same four blades that slice through my fur - only they're blue not pink and cost less.

It should bother me more but my wallet is happier for the choices I make. I'll take what I can get.

What pisses me off most is the price of a haircut for women. Guys can get their hair snipped for less than twenty dollars. It always costs me at least thirty five. Argh.