Some Food For Thought

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  1. jakeatolla

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    Or, mabey not !!! This blew me away.

    MSG The food additive MSG (Mono-Sodium Glutamate) is a slow poison. MSG hides behind 25 or more names, such as "Natural Flavouring."

    MSG is even in your favourite coffee from Tim Horton's and other brand-name coffee shops!

    I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive obesity epidemic, and so did a friend of mine, John Erb. He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo in Ontario , Canada , and spent years working for the government. He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a book he was writing called The Slow Poisoning of America.

    In hundreds of studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to use in diet or diabetes test studies. No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so scientists have to create them. They make these creatures morbidly obese by injecting them with MSG when they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates, causing rats (and perhaps humans) to become obese. They even have a name for the fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats."

    When I heard this, I was shocked. I went into my kitchen and checked the cupboards and the refrigerator. MSG was in everything -- the Campbell 's soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavoured potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, and Kraft salad dressings, especially the "healthy low-fat" ones.

    The items that didn't have MSG marked on the product label had something called "Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein," which is just another name for Monosodium Glutamate.

    It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our children everyday are filled with this stuff. MSG is hidden under many different names in order to fool those who read the ingredient list, so that they don't catch on. (Other names for MSG are "Accent, "Aginomoto," "Natural Meat Tenderizer," etc.)

    But it didn't stop there.

    When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants what menu items contained MSG. Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG.

    But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly provided, sure enough, MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere.

    Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant -- even the sit-down eateries like TGIF, Chili's, Applebee's, and Denny's -- use MSG in abundance. Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in every chicken dish, salad dressing. And gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin -- their secret spice was MSG!

    So why is MSG in so many of the foods we eat? Is it a preservative, or a vitamin?

    Not according to my friend John Erb. In his book The Slow Poisoning of America, he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it has on the human body.

    Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group supporting MSG explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people eat more.

    A study of the elderly showed that older people eat more of the foods that it is added to. The Glutamate Association lobbying group says eating more is a benefit to the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us?

    Betcha can't eat [just] one," takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is concerned! And we wonder why the nation is overweight!

    MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their products. It makes people choose their product over others, and makes people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added.

    Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive substance. Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago, MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the pre-packaged meals, soups, snacks, and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday.

    The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food. They claim it's safe to eat in any amount. But how can they claim it's safe when there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these:

    "The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of exercise in obesity." Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA. Res Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002.

    Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats." Guimaraes RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori C, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro. Brain Res Bull. 2002 Aug.

    Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: An animal model of multiple risk factors." Iwase M, Yamamoto M, Iino K, Ichikawa K, Shinohara N, Yoshinari Fujishima. Hypertens Res. 1998 Mar.

    Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in suckling period and subsequent development of obesity." Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K Kusunoki. Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct.

    No, the date of that last study was not a typo; it was published in 1978. Both the "medical research community" and ?food manufacturers" have known about the side effects of MSG for decades.

    Many more of the studies mentioned in John Erb's book link MSG to diabetes, migraines and headaches, autism, ADHD, and even Alzheimer's.

    So what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping this fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity epidemic we now see?

    Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of the highest government health officials in Canada . While he was sitting in the government office, the official told him, "Sure, I know how bad MSG is. I wouldn't touch the stuff." But this top-level government official refuses to tell the public what he knows.

    The big media doesn't want to tell the public either, fearing issues with their advertisers. It seems that the fallout on the fast food industry may hurt their profit margin. The food producers and restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying the price for it. Our children should not be cursed with obesity caused by an addictive food additive.

    But what can I do about it? I'm just one voice! What can I do to stop the poisoning of our children, while our governments are insuring financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us?


    The best way you can help to save yourself and your children from this drug-induced epidemic is to forward this article to everyone. With any luck, it will circle the globe before politicians can pass the legislation protecting those who are poisoning us.


    The food industry learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill like this in place before someone blew the whistle on nicotine?

    If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is good for us and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for yourself. Go to the National Library of Medicine at www.pubmed.com.


    Type in the words "MSG Obese" and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear.


    We the public do not want to be rats in one giant experiment, and we do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic, addicted sheep, feeding the food industry's bottom line while waiting for the heart transplant, the diabetic-induced amputation, blindness, or other obesity-induced, life-threatening disorders.


    With your help we can put an end to this poison.

    Do your part in sending this message out by word of mouth, e-mail, or by distribution of this printout to your friends all over the world and stop this "Slow Poisoning of Mankind" by the packaged food industry.


    Blowing the whistle on MSG is our responsibility, so get the word out.
     
  2. alex8.5

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    Good to know
     
  3. Rikter8

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    The same think with Corn Syrup - the nations epidemic with obesity.

    When there's additives to make you eat more, its for boosting sales and profits.

    I looked at your food list - dude...you seriously need to shop differently.

    Steer clear of ALL pre-processed foods.

    "Campbell 's soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavoured potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, and Kraft salad dressings, especially the "healthy low-fat" ones."

    Campbells soups are Loaded with MSG and Sodium. They're a heart attack waiting to happen.
    Doritos - you know better.
    Top Ramen is just scary.
    Hamburger Helper is also frightning. I opened one of their cans and found what looked to be "Rice", in a chicken version. It turned out to be dead processed Maggots.
    Swanson dinners are equally scary.
    I buy the Make your own salad dressing packs, but they also contain MSG.

    Soups are ultra easy to make by yourself with your own ingredients, and it freezes well for later.
    Ramen Noodles can also be made by a little bit of flour, a couple of eggs, little salt, and a little patience cutting them out.
    (Plus...you want a Power breakfast food that will give you substance - Mix your home made thick noodles with Scrambled eggs, a can of mushrooms or green peppers and ham - in the skillet, heat it through)

    Want stew? Ok.
    1 lb package pre cut stew beef from your local store. 5 large white potatoes, sliced and quartered. 5 carrots sliced, or baby carrot pack. Fresh onion and greens diced.
    Take your stew meat. Roll it in 1 beaten egg. Then Roll the meat in flour. Pop it in a seasoned with fried onion cuttings and olive oil sauce pan, and brown. Once brown, throw it in a crock pot with 1 cup of water. Throw in your veggies you want or like. Salt and pepper to liking. Pop the lid on, and 4 hours later you'll have enough stew to last you a week, or several lunches.


    Never - EVER buy Pre-mixed dinners either in the frozen bags, or in the can.
    Your just askin for trouble.
     
  4. Catchoftheday

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    I would take this with a pinch of salt ..
     
  5. B_ScaredLittleBoy

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    Chemicals causing obesity? I don't think so.

    Chemicals causing cancer? Yes.

    Make your own food. From scratch. :smile: No problems.
     
  6. Principessa

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    WOW! Looks like the Santa Fe Chicken Salad at Applebee's isn't as healthy a choice as I always thought. :frown1: I knew the dressing and guacamole were fattening but I thought it was an otherwise decent choice because the chicken is grilled not fried.

    C'est La Vie
     
  7. Principessa

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    Fine, you come live with me and cook all my meals... from scratch. :wink::biggrin1:
     
  8. B_Think_Kink

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    We're all going to die someday.. just need a cause to put on the death papers.
     
  9. StrictlyAvg

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    The whole tone of that article smacks of propaganda and misinformation - the Tim Horton's thing is a proven urban legend.

    I have heard/read some rather more balanced/informed debates (BBC Radio 4 food program about 18 months ago) than this, on where the whole glutamate thing comes from i.e. the umami flavour that occurs naturally in quite a few of our most tasty foods (shellfish, prosciutto, parmesan, steak, many vegetables and - gasp - human breast milk). They went into its effects on people - very little in moderation, very little difference between added MSG and naturally occurring glutamates and it was not exactly easy to find strong reactions even in higher doses. MSG is just the new demon that will "kill us all" when like any other food, it will cause a minor adverse reaction in a small number of people and a very strong one in a very small number of people. It's hardly a poison! But like salt, fat and many other things too much of something in your diet over a long period is going to have an effect.


    But I do agree that we shouldn't be routinely subjected to unwanted high doses of anything by food manufacturers trying to make their nastier foods palatable and the advice above to control what you eat by knowing what goes into it is as good as you're going to get.

    Damn urban legends, haven't we got enough real issues to worry about?
     
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    I for one have no problemo falling asleep at night ever, but when I eat the Southwestern Cobb Salad at Chili's, It takes me hours to fall asleep at night even when I eat it early in the day. MSG is freakin' speed. Let's hear it for NO GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS ON ANYTHING. They're killing people and we can't do anything about it.
     
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