some say gay=unnatural

[pedercic99]

dolfette...where did I ever change my opinion on anything? Can you find a quote to that effect.

You really need to learn to read.

As for vinylboy saying that homosexuals can reproduce. If they are reproducing with females then are not entirely homosexual are they?

If we can't agree on the meanings of the words natural and unnatural and people can't help getting defensive over them then this is a worthless discussion.

A lot of you are losing sight of the actual meanings of words. I am not saying that ants that don't breed are some sort of unearthly or monstrous beings. Simply that insofar as reproduction goes, and knowing that reproduction is the goal of all living things, they are unnatural. Because nature wants and expects every living thing to breed and contribute to the continuation of the species.

In all other respects I am sure that the ants and other animals that don't breed are prefectly normal. I never said they weren't but some people have been trying to imply that I did.

If you choose not to believe that then it is up to you. Just don't misinterpret what I write or claim that I have said things that I haven't.

[FONT=&quot]You do seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you, don’t you? You accuse them of being dense and ignorant, or tell them that they need to learn to read, and then trot out the same fallacious arguments. Without wishing to be rude I don’t think you’re in a position to be patronising about these matters.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You say that nature ‘wants’ and ‘expects’ every living thing to breed. Nature doesn’t ‘want’ or ‘expect’ anything. People (and possibly some animals) want and expect things. You might as well say that the sun wants to rise in the morning, or that a lake expects you to swim in it. You won’t find this sort of anthropomorphic fallacy in The Origin of Species, which I suspect you have either not read or not understood. It makes sense – of a sort – for a certain sort of Christian to describe homosexuals as unnatural, because they believe that we were all created for a purpose by God, who wants and expects certain things of us. As you don’t mention God I assume this is not what you’re trying to say.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You seem very keen on breeding, but I suspect that you would be better off doing some reading instead. A basic introduction to philosophy and evolutionary theory might be a good start...[/FONT]

 

[dolfette]

do you suggest they do a zoolander face?:biggrin1:

they already do!

For a different perspective on dolfette's original question, it's generally accepted in contemporary psychology that humans are naturally bisexual.

the bonobo society?
Bonobo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
if any of you guys don't know about the bonobo, you should have a read.
fascinating buggers.

Done posting because my post are being reported and i'm being warned.

that's because you're a homophobe.
''failed humans''? that's on a par with labeling the women here as ''just pussy''.

 

[B_Hamadim]

*Turn The Piano music On*

A Mysterious Guy once said:

"Whatever happens, they will defend Homosexuality... They will Embrace it... And swear to Protect it...

They are happy being Brainwashed, they don't realize being brainwashed, they will deny being brainwashed, they will swear you to hell for accusing them of being Brainwashed.

The Devil succeeded making Homosexuality beautiful in their Eyes.

He Increased their numbers, they are everywhere, "#####" In Human Forms.

He brainwashed them, convinced them that Homosexuals are born Homosexuals.

They Only Bring the animals as their excuse... as they are saying: "There is no difference between us and the Monkeys"

Will ever they realize? Will they? Can you hear me?......

My Eyes are bleeding blood... My heart is torn a part...

My words are fading... "

I don't have to agree with this guy, Who is he? Do you know him?

 

[dolfette]

ahahahahahahaha

 

[Rugbypup]

*Turn The Piano music On*

A Mysterious Guy once said:

"Whatever happens, they will defend Homosexuality... They will Embrace it... And swear to Protect it...

They are happy being Brainwashed, they don't realize being brainwashed, they will deny being brainwashed, they will swear you to hell for accusing them of being Brainwashed.

The Devil succeeded making Homosexuality beautiful in their Eyes.

He Increased their numbers, they are everywhere, "#####" In Human Forms.

He brainwashed them, convinced them that Homosexuals are born Homosexuals.

They Only Bring the animals as their excuse... as they are saying: "There is no difference between us and the Monkeys"

Will ever they realize? Will they? Can you hear me?......

My Eyes are bleeding blood... My heart is torn a part...

My words are fading... "

I don't have to agree with this guy, Who is he? Do you know him?

I know him... he's a c*nt!

 

[B_Hamadim]

I know him... he's a c*nt!

Yea right, shall we Stone him? Or Burn him?!!!!

 

[dolfette]

Yea right, shall we Stone him? Or Burn him?!!!!

or just ignore him.
because he's unimportant to my life and his opinions matter not one iota.

 

[Rugbypup]

I'm stunned at the amount of people who argue Creationism over Darwinism. Someone remind me what century we are in?

Ants and bee have been used a bit here as examples, fact is they don't 'choose' to not reproduce, their sexual instincts are suppressed by a dominate alpha's pheromones. In essence, chemically neutered.

Humans are animals, we are part of the animal kingdom. FACT. Why is that having to be explained to some people?

If homosexuality was counter productive to our species survival, then why has it not been breed out? As it's been highlighted, gay people 'choose' not to reproduce and there fore do not pass on there genes.

So why, with all these 'natural' heterosexuals banging each other over the centuries, does homosexuality keep occurring?

Darwinists are missing something here. The objective of life in his terms is not reproduction, it is survival and it's not survival of the strongest, it's survival of the fittest. Which means, homosexuality has evolved to cater to some niche in nature where it is the fittest solution.

As such, homosexuality is part of natures design, we just don't yet know what that is and I would like to remind some folks on here, mankind does not understand nature in it's entirety, so how can we say anything is unnatural in any terms.

 

[B_Hamadim]

dolfette You are right, Wisdom over flows from your heart, Most learned Woman.

 

[Rugbypup]

or just ignore him.
because he's unimportant to my life and his opinions matter not one iota.

That reads as a shot at me Dolfette?

I do not know the author of that religious homophobia, merely stating it's a pile of shit from an obviously hateful individual.

 

[B_Hamadim]

Rugby, Are you Christian?

 

[dolfette]

That reads as a shot at me Dolfette?

I do not know the author of that religious homophobia, merely stating it's a pile of shit from an obviously hateful individual.

you're doing it again! bad puppy!!


you can think him a cunt but i doubt you'd see him stoned either.
you don't hunt him down to punish him for his opinions.
you dismiss him as a cunt and you move on.
yes?

it was a shot at nobody.

 

[Rugbypup]

Rugby, Are you Christian?

I was, as a child. Having grown up and seen Christianity for the hateful and bigoted rhetoric that it is, I am not longer.

I do believe in God however, but not in the Bible nor the fanatical extremists that commit the most heinous crimes in God's name... be they of any religion!

 

[Rugbypup]

you're doing it again! bad puppy!!


you can think him a cunt but i doubt you'd see him stoned either.
you don't hunt him down to punish him for his opinions.
you dismiss him as a cunt and you move on.
yes?

it was a shot at nobody.

Sorry Dolfette...

Things read here can be too easily misinterpreted, my apologies.

 

[dolfette]

Sorry Dolfette...

Things read here can be too easily misinterpreted, my apologies.

that's ok.
i've come to find your occassional moments of paranoia rather endearing :tongue:

 

[Rugbypup]

that's ok.
i've come to find your occassional moments of paranoia rather endearing :tongue:

I am clearly known too well here, lol. :redface:

I found this, might be of interest...

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dolfette]

I am clearly known too well here, lol. :redface:

I found this, might be of interest...

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

YouTube - Ricky Gervais - Gay Animals (Animals)

and this is so funny!

 

[Rugbypup]

YouTube - Ricky Gervais - Gay Animals (Animals)

and this is so funny!

Brilliant.

Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dolfette]

Brilliant.

Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i have a pal who used to live in greece.
she said that where she lived only the receiver was considered gay.
the givers were just straight guys getting some arse.

 

[Rugbypup]

i have a pal who used to live in greece.
she said that where she lived only the receiver was considered gay.
the givers were just straight guys getting some arse.

Same thing in Italy I believe.