some say gay=unnatural

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I am not Christian, But allow me to bring this up.

This is from Genesis 18:25 "Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed"
Lot was a Jewish Prophet of God.
"The Two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the City, When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My Lords", he said "Please turn aside to your servant's house, You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning"

"No" they answered, "We will spend the night in the square"

But he Insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate, Before they had gone to bed all the men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and Old- Surrounded the house.

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said,

"No my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man."

Let me bring them out to you and you can do what you like with them, but you don't do anything to these men, for they have come under my protection of my roof"

"Get out of our way" they replied and they said "This fellow came here as an alien and now he wants to play Judge! We'll treat you worse than them" They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the Door.

But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were at the door of he house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here-Sons-in-law, Sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here because we are going to destroy this place.

The Outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it."


What is the Moral of this Story? Why did Lot offer the men his 2 daughter rather than giving them some strangers to have sex with?

You dare to call God a Homophobe?
 

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Actually, it's my belief that God is bisexual. There are straight and gay folk in this world and we were all born as such. If we truly are made in God's image, then God is bisexual.

The Bible is a pile of shit, most aren't even aware of it's history as a document.
 

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What is the Moral of this Story? Why did Lot offer the men his 2 daughter rather than giving them some strangers to have sex with?

You dare to call God a Homophobe?
who calls god a homophobe?
no, we call some of those who claim to speak for god homophobes.
the bible isn't written by god. it's written by men.
a compilation of opinions.
put together by men.

jesus never condemned homosexuality. and he was 'the son of god'.
no, he said ''let he who is without sin cast the first stone''.

and as for the moral...inviting a group of men to gang rape your daughters?
i see nothing moral in that.
 

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If the definition of natural is:

in accordance with nature; relating to or concerning nature;

Then homosexuality goes against the natural order of things; which is to live, procreate and then die.

As for gay sex in the animal kingdom, from what I have seen, males use it to relieve themselves of sexual frustration when there are no females around.

So from what I have seen, it is a temporary 'bout' of homosexuality and those same males would breed with females given the chance. Homosexual acts therefore do occur in the animal kindom. But as for 100% homosexual orientation (in the animal kingdom)...I'm not so sure.

Carrying on from what Rugbypup said, it could be that homosexuality in humans is a remnant from the early years when submissive males only had male outlets (inlets? :wink:) for their sexual needs.

And that system probably existed for a long time and became ingrained to some degree in some human psyches, which would explain 100% homosexuality. I suppose the same way that you can breed a fighting instinct into a dog.

That could be why it "feels natural" to some or most gay people.

However, according to the dictionary, homosexuality is not natural.

lol......i thought this type of theory died when being gay was taken out of the dsm...

ignnorance is bliss...especially if you are ignorant to the fact that you bore me....
 

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I read alot about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, The 3 semetic religions see Homosexuality as a work of Devil.

"1youngboy" is right, you can't compare animals to humans, Human has the mind, Knowledge of Good and Evil, Creating and Inventing, Creating a greater Science, Bulding the world.

"Ghostycrow" is also right, Homosexuality is a natural way to reduce the overpopulation, When God created the man, he wanted him to increase the population of the world, to breed and have more children, to build the world, but the Man needed a helper, and so God created the Woman from the rib of the Man "It is not Good for the man to be alone, I will make a helper suitable for him" Genesis 1:30.

So Homosexuality is against of idea of increasing the population of the world.


I can see that Adam and Eve is mentioned in the Holy books of God, not Adam and Steve :p


Please don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against the Gays, besides I have some gay friends, This Topic is only to exchange some points of views.

i really dig people who say " i have nothing against gays, some friends are gay but....'
 

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engorged... I really have nothing against Gays, but allow me to say this:

Is it wrong to tell the truth?

If you see it so, then you have something wrong with your Brain.

I will say the truth even If it threatens my Life...
 

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To The whole world, everything is the witness to it...

Every thing you touch and see is witness to it...

According to the God you make, According to the God you choose...

Perhaps you don't understand it now, but one day you will ....


one day.........
 

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To The whole world, everything is the witness to it...

Every thing you touch and see is witness to it...

According to the God you make, According to the God you choose...

Perhaps you don't understand it now, but one day you will ....


one day.........

...prick!

I will gladly ignore you from here on out.
 

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engorged... I really have nothing against Gays, but allow me to say this:

Is it wrong to tell the truth?

If you see it so, then you have something wrong with your Brain.

I will say the truth even If it threatens my Life...
no, you give your opinion of what is true.
what you believe is the truth.

there's a difference.

if i hold a rock i can say truthfully 'this is a rock'
but i can only say that i believe this rock was created by the big bang/god/volcano/pixies.
 

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To The whole world, everything is the witness to it...

Every thing you touch and see is witness to it...

According to the God you make, According to the God you choose...

Perhaps you don't understand it now, but one day you will ....


one day.........

brandishing the truth carrot like a good christian...good boy! can you do any other tricks.....
 

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To The whole world, everything is the witness to it...

Every thing you touch and see is witness to it...

According to the God you make, According to the God you choose...

Perhaps you don't understand it now, but one day you will ....


one day.........
you believe.

there are billions who believe just as strongly in something else.