Have you ever seen Sharapova, Kvitova, Pierce, Davenport, Seles, the Williams Sisters play?
These women know how to hit the ball and they know how to hit it flat and with power.
My point is - Women should not be like men! They should be equally payed for the hard work they put into that athlete life.
I put hard work into being a pro athlete, but I ended up with career ending hip surgery. Should I be paid for the "hard work I put into that athlete life?" NO.
What about my hard work rehabbing my surgery when I attempted to come back?
Hard work is hard work. No one is forcing these athlete women to do anything they don't want to do. If they're not happy with their pay, then they can do something else. If fans aren't happy with their pay, they can vote with their wallet.
I understand that.
But as I stated before, even when women become more popular then men they get payed less.
That's normally because they're popular in spite of their athletic ability, not because of it. (see: Danica Patrick)
It`s about rights and deprivation of the same when women achieve them. :smile:
Btw, you have your opinion and I do have mine and we can continue like this forever. :biggrin1:
No it's about economics. Should we start debating that male strippers and porn stars should be paid more?
But it isn`t.
Women just do not get payed more.
Even when they achieve more.
So you guys look at tennis and think - Women enjoy the same rights as men. I look at tennis and think - When women even become more popular than men they make less money.
Women will "achieve more" than men when the public view it that way. In which case "achieving more" is beating the men.
Ugh.
You just don`t get it.
Women are not men. Women`s sports are not men`s sport.
Tell me, when Marion Jones won all those Olympic gold medals, more than any other man in athletics that olympic year. When every child in Laos and God know where knew her name and face, did she make more money than, let`s just say men`s 100m champion? I don`t think so.
So lets face it.
Even when they become more popular than men, they still make less.
I beat all the kids in my high school in the 100m, and I don't get paid more than pro athletes, what gives?
Listen, I love female athletes, their work ethic and such. But people like you who make posts like this make people like me resent listening to stupid arguments about how females are treated "unequally."
You're comparing apples to oranges in men's and women's sports. To say otherwise is ridiculous. Women's sports have different rules and different equipment. Male athletes are overpaid in the major sports (football, gridiron, basketball). However, that is a result of the economics. (someone gave the example of A-rod, and let's be honest, that wasn't an "investment" that was intended to make profit, it was a statement by the Steinbrenner family.)
So to say the WNBA should be paid as much as the NBA is to say that the NHL players should be paid as much as the NFL players. Which is totally bullshit. Markets determine salary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator#Women_as_gladiators
It all comes from our evolved human genetics and roles that developed in nature though. Women were the home makers, cooks, and caretakers. Men were the hunters and protectors. (in a nutshell) Evolutionary speaking, we're not that far off from those days. It shows in modern day athletic performance, in how most males are bigger, stronger, faster than most females. Obviously you're going to have females that are incredible specimens, and I'm not ashamed to admit that there are many women who are stronger than I am.
But at the end of the day, I love athletic females, I have a lot of respect for all athletes male/female. In reality though, there just isn't a large market for female sports that is dripping in money the way male sports are. The fact is, female sports in the United States are probably 10 times more developed than in most countries. In a way I'm grateful. It gives us things like title IV (which is a double edged blade to be honest) to help women get degrees, and compete at the same time. I'd much rather date a female athlete or ex-athlete who likes to compete than a girl who has no sense of competition, struggle, or grit.
When you look at sport, you can worry about the 1% of people at the top, or pay attention to the big picture. In the end, sports for male and females now at the youth through college levels are on a fairly equal playing field. Female participation is up in many sports, and young men and women can learn the values of hard work, team work, and learn to win and lose in life (fuck participation trophies). Now, if we can only get enough kids working hard enough to end childhood obesity.
Worrying about glorified entertainers and their paycheck is missing the picture. I'm sure none of those athletes who are getting paid to play tennis are overly worried about how their salary compares to the other sex. That's what made Billie Jean King very interesting though. She was very vocal over it, and it took many people aback. I'd honestly listen to more feminists if they made sense. Unfortunately, my mom is a feminist (and a cheating whore who remarried for money), so I'm not very receptive when it comes to that, because she wanted everything her way ("equal" rights AND the things women normally get).
Missing the forest for the trees on this one though, and realistically, it's great that young girls are able to have better promoted female athletes to look up to. Lets hope theirs no stupid scandals stemming from bad judgement and iphone use.