Sooooooooooooo, the highest payed female athlete is

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Disclaimer: Not at all saying women shouldn't continue to compete as they are now...just imagining from scratch a new kind of team sport.

I really think there should be a new sport created for women that plays to the strengths of women on a whole (the majority). Men ON AVERAGE have more outright strength and speed than women ON AVERAGE....football, basketball, boxing, MMA....all were created for the male athlete. They are sports where aggressive force plays a big role. (Of course basketball was far different in it's early days than it is now.)

Women are more WAY more flexible, graceful, nimble on their feet ON AVERAGE. I don't know what this sport would look like...I just know that a team sport has never been created with the modern female athlete in mind.

Competitive sport is a masculine dynamic. If you want to promote the feminine aspect of movement, it's most likely going to come through dancing with music.

But again, if the primary spectator is male, men will get paid more and the highest paid women athletes will be sexualized. Period. Only when women can match men in terms of butts in seats (including the executive boxes) will we see parity.
 

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Maria Sharapova and she is No. 26 on the list.
There are 25 men in front of her and if she wasn`t that attractive she wouldn`t even be that high.
Any thoughts?
Lets face it, the men in front of her aren`t there because they are more attractive (maybe Beckham :biggrin1:), but because we live in a fucking male dominated world!
OK you are being a fucking troll again. I am not going to read every post, but the fact is that sports are still more male than female. After so many years the WNBA still loses money, the only reason it still exists is the NBA pours money into it. The women's professional soccer league in the US folded again because of lack of support. There are more men's sports and more support.

You are making a real stretch to equate sports to the entire world. Most of the women I know like men's sports better than women's because the level of play is higher.

This is a thread designed to incite, not to create any real discussion, go away and try to post something of value.
 

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OK you are being a fucking troll again.
I couldn`t be arsed reading the rest of your post.
Am I wrong for not not giving a damn why a stranger who I know absolutely nothing about thinks I am a troll.
Please, keep your personal insults to yourself.
I think I`m fighting a good battle, on the net and IRL. I`m sick and tired of seeing women degraded for just being women.
Sports is just one of the parameters of how women are being treated.
I`m not going to close my eyes and walk away.
 

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male athletes get paid more then female athletes just based on simply... guys bring in more money To the team owners or to thier sports. Look at number 1 and 2 both boxers fight 1-2 times a year but in those 1-2 times they're bringing boxing/the people who own the arena' 100's of millions ... i love tennis and allways will but they just dont bring in that kinda cash
 

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male athletes get paid more then female athletes just based on simply... guys bring in more money To the team owners or to thier sports. Look at number 1 and 2 both boxers fight 1-2 times a year but in those 1-2 times they're bringing boxing/the people who own the arena' 100's of millions ... i love tennis and allways will but they just dont bring in that kinda cash


Exactly..plain and simple, the market is just there.

This is not a sexist situation...if the same percentage of women came out in droves to see the LA Sparks as the Lakers and talked about WNBA Storylines on the View and other radio talk shows, then Lisa Leslie would've been making as much as Kobe 10 years ago..Men's sports just has a higher market..and even if the LA Sparks are packing the Staples Center, you have to realize the ticket price difference is crazy..

Hell there was a time when male athletes didn't make that much because nobody cared enough to go see them. It's all about where the money is. They only pay A-Rod 25 million because they've crunched the numbers and decided he's worth that much in tickets, television rights deals, merchandise, and added concessions revenue from more tickets..Jenny Finch doesn't make that much for playing softball because unfortunately very few people care that much about softball.

Fact is, I've heard from a good amount of women who have said they'd rather watch men play sports..

Pretty simple to me I'm not sure why anybody would think it's sexist. Now maybe the IDEA that men would rather watch men seems sexist to you..but again, I've heard that from many women as well, and it's perfectly valid to simply prefer the men's games because it is a different experience..because it just might be a more entertaining product.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't agree with this women getting paid less than men. As someone stated earlier in the Grand slam tournaments men compete over 5 sets and women over 3. So the women are getting paid more per game than the men.

The average time for the Women's final at Wimbledon is 92 minutes. Men's final on average is 150 minutes.

Think about that in office terms......a woman is working less hours than you but she is demanding the same amount of pay??? REALLY! I'm not saying that the women are not top athletes and work damn hard, but they don't play as much, In tennis terms.

I am all for equal rights and think women's sports can be as exciting as men's sport......BUT again if we look at jobs outside of sport the way things work are 'the best person for the job' and 'the best will always shine through' or 'the cream will always rise to the top' meaning male or female the best PERSON for the job will get the best jobs, earn the most money.

So if we are going to be totally non discriminate then why not let men and women compete together and see who are the best in their respective sport?? As is clear the best/most successful in their sports earn the most money!! If women are the most successful they will earn more. Simple.

There are areas where discrimination goes on but for me that is a wider social problem and not a hidden agenda in anyway to discriminate women. What I mean is women in politics or large company executives. For me this has to do more with the fact that the general public feel more comfortable with a man in a position of power than a woman, so women don't get voted in to power be it in politics or business.

I would have no problem with a woman earning more money than me. I'm a teacher and if a fellow female teacher is working hard and gets promoted I would be pleased for her she would deserve it. I would never expect preferential treatment simple because of my gender, women shouldn't expect it or want it(I know most don't). If she works harder than me she deserves to be more successful and earn more.

Men in sport get paid more not because of their sex but because they attract more money. More Viewers = more money. Super bowl was watched by watched by 111 million people, Football/soccer world cup final was watched by 715 million people!! that brings in huge amounts of money. Looking at just Tennis this years Wimbledon mens final had 17 million views in the UK (couldn't find worldwide figures) compare that to the womens final which was 4 million viewers in the UK!! Clearly a huge difference. The English premier league sold its T.V rights for around 3 Billion pounds. The players can demand high wages simply because they make more money for everyone involved in the sport.
If it was women sports earning that money and viewers the women would be getting paid the huge figures we see the men earning.
 
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I read a post asking that men should play three-sets instead of five. That's really not right. Why should men have to lower their playing standards so that men and women would be "equal"? Men have been playing five-set matches in Grand Slams and Davis Cup for years. Women were asked to play five-set matches a couple of tournaments, specifically in the Year End Championships somewhere in the 80s and 90s. I guess you can say that men and women should earn equal prize money based on the entertainment they provide, however, to say that men should only play three-sets like women just to pretend to be "equal" in physical stamina is really insulting.
 

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I read a post asking that men should play three-sets instead of five. That's really not right. Why should men have to lower their playing standards so that men and women would be "equal"? Men have been playing five-set matches in Grand Slams and Davis Cup for years. Women were asked to play five-set matches a couple of tournaments, specifically in the Year End Championships somewhere in the 80s and 90s. I guess you can say that men and women should earn equal prize money based on the entertainment they provide, however, to say that men should only play three-sets like women just to pretend to be "equal" in physical stamina is really insulting.
No, it isn`t!
Men complain all the time about the pain 5 setters bring!
And if someone feels it`s normal to play 5 sets, then they should play it in every tournament.
Five sets are just too demanding!
P.S. I know that is says account disabled, I just had to reply.
And some years back, men used to play all the finals of master`s tournaments (there were 9) in possible 5 sets. Now it`s possible 3.
 
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Disclaimer: Not at all saying women shouldn't continue to compete as they are now...just imagining from scratch a new kind of team sport.

I really think there should be a new sport created for women that plays to the strengths of women on a whole (the majority). Men ON AVERAGE have more outright strength and speed than women ON AVERAGE....football, basketball, boxing, MMA....all were created for the male athlete. They are sports where aggressive force plays a big role. (Of course basketball was far different in it's early days than it is now.)

Women are more WAY more flexible, graceful, nimble on their feet ON AVERAGE. I don't know what this sport would look like...I just know that a team sport has never been created with the modern female athlete in mind.

I love how you have to say that the females are WAY better in the fields you put but males are only better on average. In all honestly females are more flexible naturally, but nimble on their feet/agility? I think males have females beat. While in strength/speed on the mens side it is no contest. Even though obviously a female strongwomen>>the average male. male strong men>>the female strongwomen.
 
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Maria Sharapova and she is No. 26 on the list.
There are 25 men in front of her and if she wasn`t that attractive she wouldn`t even be that high.
Any thoughts?
Lets face it, the men in front of her aren`t there because they are more attractive (maybe Beckham :biggrin1:), but because we live in a fucking male dominated world!

Ya can tell she is a size queen tho by how much binding she has on her racquet handle.








Ha Ha..made ya look :).
 

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Have you ever seen Sharapova, Kvitova, Pierce, Davenport, Seles, the Williams Sisters play?
These women know how to hit the ball and they know how to hit it flat and with power.
My point is - Women should not be like men! They should be equally payed for the hard work they put into that athlete life.

I put hard work into being a pro athlete, but I ended up with career ending hip surgery. Should I be paid for the "hard work I put into that athlete life?" NO.

What about my hard work rehabbing my surgery when I attempted to come back?:rolleyes:

Hard work is hard work. No one is forcing these athlete women to do anything they don't want to do. If they're not happy with their pay, then they can do something else. If fans aren't happy with their pay, they can vote with their wallet.

I understand that.
But as I stated before, even when women become more popular then men they get payed less.

That's normally because they're popular in spite of their athletic ability, not because of it. (see: Danica Patrick)


It`s about rights and deprivation of the same when women achieve them. :smile:
Btw, you have your opinion and I do have mine and we can continue like this forever. :biggrin1:
No it's about economics. Should we start debating that male strippers and porn stars should be paid more? :rolleyes:

But it isn`t.
Women just do not get payed more.
Even when they achieve more.
So you guys look at tennis and think - Women enjoy the same rights as men. I look at tennis and think - When women even become more popular than men they make less money.

Women will "achieve more" than men when the public view it that way. In which case "achieving more" is beating the men.

Ugh.
You just don`t get it.
Women are not men. Women`s sports are not men`s sport.
Tell me, when Marion Jones won all those Olympic gold medals, more than any other man in athletics that olympic year. When every child in Laos and God know where knew her name and face, did she make more money than, let`s just say men`s 100m champion? I don`t think so.
So lets face it.
Even when they become more popular than men, they still make less.
I beat all the kids in my high school in the 100m, and I don't get paid more than pro athletes, what gives?


Listen, I love female athletes, their work ethic and such. But people like you who make posts like this make people like me resent listening to stupid arguments about how females are treated "unequally."

You're comparing apples to oranges in men's and women's sports. To say otherwise is ridiculous. Women's sports have different rules and different equipment. Male athletes are overpaid in the major sports (football, gridiron, basketball). However, that is a result of the economics. (someone gave the example of A-rod, and let's be honest, that wasn't an "investment" that was intended to make profit, it was a statement by the Steinbrenner family.)

So to say the WNBA should be paid as much as the NBA is to say that the NHL players should be paid as much as the NFL players. Which is totally bullshit. Markets determine salary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator#Women_as_gladiators

It all comes from our evolved human genetics and roles that developed in nature though. Women were the home makers, cooks, and caretakers. Men were the hunters and protectors. (in a nutshell) Evolutionary speaking, we're not that far off from those days. It shows in modern day athletic performance, in how most males are bigger, stronger, faster than most females. Obviously you're going to have females that are incredible specimens, and I'm not ashamed to admit that there are many women who are stronger than I am.

But at the end of the day, I love athletic females, I have a lot of respect for all athletes male/female. In reality though, there just isn't a large market for female sports that is dripping in money the way male sports are. The fact is, female sports in the United States are probably 10 times more developed than in most countries. In a way I'm grateful. It gives us things like title IV (which is a double edged blade to be honest) to help women get degrees, and compete at the same time. I'd much rather date a female athlete or ex-athlete who likes to compete than a girl who has no sense of competition, struggle, or grit.

When you look at sport, you can worry about the 1% of people at the top, or pay attention to the big picture. In the end, sports for male and females now at the youth through college levels are on a fairly equal playing field. Female participation is up in many sports, and young men and women can learn the values of hard work, team work, and learn to win and lose in life (fuck participation trophies). Now, if we can only get enough kids working hard enough to end childhood obesity.

Worrying about glorified entertainers and their paycheck is missing the picture. I'm sure none of those athletes who are getting paid to play tennis are overly worried about how their salary compares to the other sex. That's what made Billie Jean King very interesting though. She was very vocal over it, and it took many people aback. I'd honestly listen to more feminists if they made sense. Unfortunately, my mom is a feminist (and a cheating whore who remarried for money), so I'm not very receptive when it comes to that, because she wanted everything her way ("equal" rights AND the things women normally get).

Missing the forest for the trees on this one though, and realistically, it's great that young girls are able to have better promoted female athletes to look up to. Lets hope theirs no stupid scandals stemming from bad judgement and iphone use.
 
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That's normally because they're popular in spite of their athletic ability, not because of it. (see: Danica Patrick)
I stopped reading here.
How about Jennifer Capriati, Lindsey Davenport, Seles? These women were not what we would in today`s terms define as beautiful. They have been wining Gran Slams and Seles and Davenport won a ton of smaller tournaments and yet they made less money.
It`s just bullshit, when women win almost everything BECAUSE of their athletic ability they still were underpaid.
Aggasi 60 titles I believe 8 or 9 gran slams, career prize money 31 million.
Seles 53 titles, 9 gran slams, career prize money around 15 million.
 

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haha theres so much fun here

the 5 setter issue definitely deserves to be highlighted. why in the actual fuck do women get paid the same in GS tournaments when clearly its not on par. Although I remember reading an article where Venus made some good point on why it should be equal, but i forgot them so they cant be that important. Although I think the williams brothers can beat a fair few men on the tour and over 5 sets.

Your whole argument of money to titles ratio can be derailed with Serena earning 40 mil with 43 titles, so womens game is up to speed almost in terms of pay. dont waffle that the rest of the tour is underpaid, so is the mens, the top 4 take home almost 40 %of all the money available on tour. If you dont feel you got paid enough maybe you should have worked harder to be the best.

Also watching womens tennis after watching the top 4 mens is not really interesting and slow, like an adrenaline junkie it just doesnt cut it. However It does get interesting when watching Sharapova play, or Serena when shes actually challenged by someone (although it is also fun watching her rape Azarenka a new arsehole ever time). Therefore Sharapova deserves the endorsements for being a looker, good tennis player (unlike Kournikova) and just a nice human being who can be a role model.

Also youre just talking about the money, thats all you care about. Rod Laver is a Legend as is Borg, neither is a multi millionaire and the latter was broke at some point, as was Sampras I think?! No one cares how rich they are, theyare in the history book forever. Navratilova, Evert, Graff! I still get the pleasure of rewatching the borg mcenroe finals, and listening to mcenroe commentate wimbledon. I know you have to eat and theres no money on tour, but you dont have to have 500 people on your entourage, youre not living a poor lifestyle just be happy youre living your dream.

anyway youre just going to say you stopped reading but luka I am all for equality for women, but bitching about it all the time is not going to bring it you.
 
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btw, what achilles said too, dudes on the right track too

and can add to the mens porn equality, why in the fuck arent male models shown as much as female models and their shows? wheres the male adriana lima and giselle bundchen or however you spell her name on every cover of magazines??

I want male equality goddamit!! :)

peace be with you
 
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haha theres so much fun here

the 5 setter issue definitely deserves to be highlighted. why in the actual fuck do women get paid the same in GS tournaments when clearly its not on par. Although I remember reading an article where Venus made some good point on why it should be equal, but i forgot them so they cant be that important. Although I think the williams brothers can beat a fair few men on the tour and over 5 sets.

Your whole argument of money to titles ratio can be derailed with Serena earning 40 mil with 43 titles, so womens game is up to speed almost in terms of pay. dont waffle that the rest of the tour is underpaid, so is the mens, the top 4 take home almost 40 %of all the money available on tour. If you dont feel you got paid enough maybe you should have worked harder to be the best.

Also watching womens tennis after watching the top 4 mens is not really interesting and slow, like an adrenaline junkie it just doesnt cut it. However It does get interesting when watching Sharapova play, or Serena when shes actually challenged by someone (although it is also fun watching her rape Azarenka a new arsehole ever time). Therefore Sharapova deserves the endorsements for being a looker, good tennis player (unlike Kournikova) and just a nice human being who can be a role model.

Also youre just talking about the money, thats all you care about. Rod Laver is a Legend as is Borg, neither is a multi millionaire and the latter was broke at some point, as was Sampras I think?! No one cares how rich they are, theyare in the history book forever. Navratilova, Evert, Graff! I still get the pleasure of rewatching the borg mcenroe finals, and listening to mcenroe commentate wimbledon. I know you have to eat and theres no money on tour, but you dont have to have 500 people on your entourage, youre not living a poor lifestyle just be happy youre living your dream.

anyway youre just going to say you stopped reading but luka I am all for equality for women, but bitching about it all the time is not going to bring it you.

Can the mods please remove the rape joke from this post.
 

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And actresses earn less than actors, when some would argue that ladies come in larger numbers to cinemas.

There was a bit of a feud between Sharipova and a male player this Spring when he suggested that women tennis players didn't deserve as much pay as men. From Mail Online:
The Wimbledon sexism row turned personal yesterday as Maria Sharapova delivered a withering put-down to the man who started it, saying: ‘More people watch my games than his.’

France’s Gilles Simon had earlier caused controversy by claiming women do not deserve to be paid as much as men because the men’s game is more ‘attractive’.


Yesterday Miss Sharapova, who won the ladies singles in 2004 and is currently ranked world number one, said: ‘Look, we women have fought so long to get equal prize money. It was a big challenge and nobody really supported us.

Federer and Nadal fill the stands, but not like Sharapova or Wozniaki. Fuzzy has been to events where there are much more womens' matches were more popular with the spectators. In all fairness, this wasn't always the case. In the 70's, Navratilova and Gonzales had to go out onto the street to give away tickets so the stands wouldn't look so pathetically barren. The prize money was significantly lower than for men in all tournaments. The US Open was the first of the Majors to give equal pay, Wimbledon was the last.
 
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I was watching my niece and nephew the other day and they were watching some Disney Channel show. Misty May Trenor was on. First time I've seen her out of her volleyball costume. Is it just me or does she resemble that chick in Avatar? They have that similar nose/beak thing going on. put Avatar make-up on and they're twins