Speaking of locker rooms!

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by nakedone, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. nakedone

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    Recently, at our local YMCA, one of the male staff members quite innocently went into the women's locker room after he was sure that all the women were gone. But, they were not! There were three, including my wife, in a state of semi-undress.

    The staff member was severely reprimanded, and nearly fired, but several of us spoke up for him.

    A few weeks later, a female staff member did basically the same thing, and went into the men's locker-room while there were several men who were completely naked, again including me! She found the guy she needed to talk to and they stood and conversed for a few minutes, while she had ample opportunity to look at the naked men around her.

    When one of the men complained to the management, it was laughed off. He was told that it didn't hurt him any if she had a look at him.

    This is a blatant double standard, of course. If a man sees a woman naked, it is considered an offense against her, but if a woman sees a man naked, it is coonsidered NO offense, or just possibily an offense against HER again!

    By the way, I asked the male staff member what he saw in the women's locker room and he told me.
     
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    Not entirely the same subject, but not so far off that it doesn't bear mentioning: A few years back, while I was living in the DC area, a modern-thinking daddy brought his children, maybe a six year old boy and about an eight year old girl, with him into the mens locker room. He presumably expected the rest of us naked gentlemen to think nothing of being recruited into his "life class." Regardless of his home standards of nudity, I was not interested in being so recruited. I complained to management, and the guy was miffed when told to respect the wishes of others.
     
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    At the aquatic centre I sometimes go to, it's actually almost always female staff doing the "rounds" of the locker room and wet areas, in both the male and female sides. This is due to the staff being made up from mostly females and as far as I know, nobody has ever had any complaints.
    They go on, hose the floors down, scrape them dry and generally make sure everything's in order.

    I've a feeling there'd be complaints if the situation was reversed, having male staff doing this on the female side, but probably mostly for cultural or religious reasons by women immigrants.

    For me, it's no different than medical staff being of both genders.
     
  4. D_Cock_Hudson

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    This is no surprise to me and I'm not offended by this differing standards.
     
  5. dolfette

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    put in a complaint of sexual harassment.
    advise the male employee to put in a complaint of sexual discrimination.

    why can't they yell ''man/woman coming in! is everybody decent?'' ? it strikes me as common sense.
     
  6. Jason

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    In the UK most public toilets are cleaned by both male and female cleaners (basically there is one cleaner for a pair of toilets). No one bothers much.
     
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    Though they do have to, I think by law, put up a sign which says "This toilet may be cleaned by male/female staff". I've seen several such signs, usually alluding to the possibility of female staff in the male toilet and usually at motorway service stations.
     
  8. tcwildman

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    You want to solve this problem. Have your wife go complain that she doesnt like that they let other women look at her husband. I hate to say it that way but its the only way it will get done and your point proven.
     
  9. Dave NoCal

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    I say get over it.
    Dave
     
  10. D_Eliassaph Daniell Goosegarden Jr

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    Have to side with Dolfette here... Where I work the sanitation crew is almost totally male. Whenever they are about to enter a womens area, the simply knock loudly on the door and yell out "SANITATION!". They then wait a few minutes to make sure
     
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    I find the double standard far more offensive than the act itself. That Y is courting a huge lawsuit.

    I hate women coming into men's lockers or rest rooms. I find it immensely disrespectful.
     
  12. nakedone

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    Pecker-Check mentioned a companion issues, and that is fathers who bring their young daughters into the men's locker/shower area. I was once in the shower with a man and his two young sons(?) when I noticed that one of his "sons" was a girl, about three years old. She was standing and quietly observing me.

    Since I was not the only naked male there, including her own father, I did not take it personally and was not offended, but it does raise the question as to at what age should children of the opposite sex be allowed into the locker rooms.

    I believe the big quesion is "What is best for the child?" but some of the adults will also ask "What about my confort zone?"
     
  13. dolfette

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    eurgh!
    places NEED parent & child rooms.
    why should a father be stopped from taking a daughter out?
    or a mother stopped from taking her son?
    three is too young to go in the other room alone.
    shit, i still take my 8y/o son with me.
    if places were just a little more parent friendy it would save a lot of awkwardness.
     
  14. D_Beau Nerr

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    Personally, I wouldn't get offended when a woman enters the men's locker room and see me naked but for me I think, for the benefit of others same standards apply to both sexes.
     
  15. Domisoldo

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    Remember, in 99.57% of the cases, a female invading the men's lockerroom will not be the woman of your dreams. Besides, your dream may be another man's nightmare.

    Unless we move to a unisex lockerroom model, let's apply the rules of engagement uniformly. All the gyms I've frequented give members of both sexes plenty of notice (verbal and visual) before letting a worker walk into the room designed for the opposite sex.



     
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    Nicely said. QED
     
  17. dolfette

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    that said, i think women are generally more distressed by this than men are.
     
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